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Motorcycle Racing => Wrenching => Topic started by: speedy619 on December 02, 2003, 08:05:23 AM

Title: blown motor help! diagnosis?
Post by: speedy619 on December 02, 2003, 08:05:23 AM
 ???OK, I know its tough, but can you tell what the trouble is from a description of sound?  If anyone knows what common failures are with the early SV650; what are they.  My bike is stock.  Performance wise I have a Akropovick pipe, K & N filter and factory jet kit.  I bought it with 3000 miles and it has almost 1 season of racing on it.  I have barely maintained it with 4 oil changes over 12 race weekends.        :o Here's the bad news, first race Sunday morning I do one lap hit the rev limiter (like I have a few.... umm times) and hear this hideous noise.  The bike still starts and runs, but it sounds like a low rough rumble and nothing at idle.  As soon as I rev it above 2-3000 rpm it starts to grumble.  It kinda sounds like a diesel noise, but muffled.  I have looked down the spark plug hole, checked the plugs, looked into the intake track and nothing.  I even pressed the top of the pistons to check play of the rods on the crank.  I can't tell anything from this quick check.     Any suggestions?  I will be grateful!!  ::)
Title: Re: blown motor help! diagnosis?
Post by: Mark Bernard on December 03, 2003, 10:12:11 AM
Quote???OK, I know its tough, but can you tell what the trouble is from a description of sound?  If anyone knows what common failures are with the early SV650; what are they.  My bike is stock.  Performance wise I have a Akropovick pipe, K & N filter and factory jet kit.  I bought it with 3000 miles and it has almost 1 season of racing on it.  I have barely maintained it with 4 oil changes over 12 race weekends.        :o Here's the bad news, first race Sunday morning I do one lap hit the rev limiter (like I have a few.... umm times) and hear this hideous noise.  The bike still starts and runs, but it sounds like a low rough rumble and nothing at idle.  As soon as I rev it above 2-3000 rpm it starts to grumble.  It kinda sounds like a diesel noise, but muffled.  I have looked down the spark plug hole, checked the plugs, looked into the intake track and nothing.  I even pressed the top of the pistons to check play of the rods on the crank.  I can't tell anything from this quick check.     Any suggestions?  I will be grateful!!  ::)
un fortunatly ... your going to have to tear it down. At least pull the heads and jugs and then check your rod play. Go from there. Good luck!
Title: Re: blown motor help! diagnosis?
Post by: Nate R on December 03, 2003, 10:22:42 AM
Most common SV problems are rod bearings, and then I think cranks.
Title: Re: blown motor help! diagnosis?
Post by: Super Dave on December 07, 2003, 07:08:37 PM
Might be worth popping the side covers out to make sure the exterior components haven't loosened on the crank.  It happened to me once.  

Title: Re: blown motor help! diagnosis?
Post by: mdr14 on December 08, 2003, 09:09:41 AM
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Title: Re: blown motor help! diagnosis?
Post by: speedy619 on December 08, 2003, 09:14:14 AM
Thanks for all the info. guys.  I will be taking it apart this week and I will post the good/bad news. ???  Please pray for me! :D
Title: Re: blown motor help! diagnosis?
Post by: Mark Bernard on December 09, 2003, 08:23:09 AM
Hominey hominey... domino nabisco... a-men!
There ya go!  ;)
Title: Re: blown motor help! diagnosis?
Post by: tzracer on December 09, 2003, 04:01:18 PM
QuoteHominey hominey... domino nabisco... a-men!
There ya go!  ;)

I'm not sure I want to know.
Title: Re: blown motor help! diagnosis?
Post by: Mark Bernard on December 10, 2003, 07:20:11 AM
QuoteI'm not sure I want to know.
Your right Brian... you dont want to know!!  :o ;)
Title: Re: blown motor help! diagnosis?
Post by: DAmico on December 19, 2003, 06:05:34 PM
i would check the cam chain tensioners. suz ones are shite.  wrist pins being galled make that noise also.
Title: Re: blown motor help! diagnosis?
Post by: speedy619 on January 11, 2004, 07:16:11 PM
OK, gang here is the latest news.  I pulled the motor and the front cylinder conrod bearings are shot and it looks like they spun.  The rear conrod bearings look OK.  I have not measured anything yet, just finished the disassembly.  The bike did run, but sounded very bad.  It has been a race bike for 11 race weekends and it had 3000 miles on it before that.  I seen no other unusual wear.  It does look like it was running rich and the oil level was low, but not out of range on the sight glass.  I have little money and want to get this thing running again any suggestions?  I am in need of help/guidance!  

Why not repair the crank?  I have quote of $300 for repairs if it is not badly scored.

Mike
Title: Re: blown motor help! diagnosis?
Post by: Tunersricebowl on January 12, 2004, 04:04:06 AM
Forget repairing the crank,at least for racetrack use.
Also keep in mind that all the particles from the destroyed bearing have damaged the oil pump and probably everything else as well. low miles used engine is the best way to go.