How come the most people that had in a race last week at N. Florida was 8? Most of the classes had far less than that! And it was a suzuki event.
I thought Roebling was a poor turnout but I have never seen anything like that!
I know, CCS Florida, SE, AMA Mid-Ohio, FUSA etc., but their attendance just doesn't seem to compare race for race.
I was trying to remember why I chose CCS over WERA yesterday. It came down to 3 reasons.
1. CCS has more regional events for me.
2. They had the "Zero to Hero" promotion last year where you get 1/2 off race school and get the 1st entry on sunday races free
3. I didn't have to safety wire my exhaust headers bolts. I didn't feel like taken them off... lazy I know.
I really think the promotion helped many people. Also the CCS website was much more helpful last year. They had race event reviews/news, a couple of articles about start racing (by a elder Dr. I believe) and other useful info. The new racer package is cool to read and very helpful too.
I believe the overall PR of CCS is better than WERA, and CCS do spend a lot of money on marketing (look at the 4 page full spread ad in RRW)
wera has a new region. it competed with moroso, and roebling that weekend. both are fine organizations. move along folks, nothing to see here. ::)
wera can post your results in the same season. unlike others.
And even though I didn't say anything negative against WERA, I was just pointing to an attendence figure, they are already blasting me on their site.
And this is the exact point I was looking to prove.
Honestly, I think your experience at NFMP was an anomaly. I've run WERA in the Mid-Atlantic region, and the turnout is on par with CCS. In the end, which sanctioning body you ride with is a personal decision. I ride both so I can get as much track time as possible.
My 2cents worth.
Last I checked Evelyne is actually WERA and she's not blasting you.
Som riders might be but please don't accuse WERA of something - just as Zeb got corrected on his statement using CCS rather than saying a CCS racer.
I also looked at the thread and so far don't see anyone blasting you. Are you as sensitive as Zeb?
Hmm. Can't find anywhere on the WERA BBS where anyone is blasting you, bfkidd.
Are you sure you're not just making that up?
QuoteLast I checked Evelyne is actually WERA and she's not blasting you.
Som riders might be but please don't accuse WERA of something - just as Zeb got corrected on his statement using CCS rather than saying a CCS racer.
I also looked at the thread and so far don't see anyone blasting you. Are you as sensitive as Zeb?
go mongo, go mongo!
Quote3. I didn't have to safety wire my exhaust headers bolts. I didn't feel like taken them off... lazy I know.
I believe the overall PR of CCS is better than WERA, and CCS do spend a lot of money on marketing (look at the 4 page full spread ad in RRW)
hmm... please wire your header bolts. :) and the exhaust springs! i had one come flying at me on the jefferson circuit. it whacked me on the neck... that stung!
the pr of ccs... yeah, as long as you don't ask your sponsors to check the ccs page for results! :)
CCS vs WERA....
Isn't that the same debate as Pepsi vs. Coke?
you pissed me off chucky. anyone can have low attendance at any time.it is not indicative of anything. hell, at least you got a top ten at a wera event. you can brag on that!! like i said. both are fine orgs. and i have a liscense for both!!
i'd like to point out that chuck juhaz was doing nothing more than stirring a pot. not as innocent as he would like to imply.
yes wera and ccs are different I race in both ,depending on convience.most of the time I see the same people at both events.most of them are really nice and helpful and have better things to do instead of trying to start stuff.don't start nothing and there won't be nothing.
I hold a license for both in the Mid Atlantic region.
Mostly because of race dates and convienience of local tracks for me. Saying one is better than another asinine, seeing as most of the CCS folks in MA region race WERA and vice versa. Who gives a shit about PR? I just want to race!
BTW- I typed Sh!t, not nuts. ;D
Mongo, I haven't been on your board yet so I couldn't have been referring to Evelyne when I said that. And yes I know who she is, I'm not that clueless.
Thanks for clarifying brad! This is the most traffic this board has had in while! And it was truly an innocent observation. No stirring required. :P
yeah,what he said.
QuoteMongo, I haven't been on your board yet so I couldn't have been referring to Evelyne when I said that. And yes I know who she is, I'm not that clueless.
Thanks for clarifying brad! This is the most traffic this board has had in while! And it was truly an innocent observation. No stirring required. :P
see you this weekend schleprock!! ;D
right back at ya liver lips! ;D
;D
it's so nice to see you guys make up and play well together! ::)
"We now return you to your regularly scheduled BBS program, Asleep On-Line."
that's what i TRIED to do earlier!!! :)
I have raced both CCS and WERA and both have their advantages. I recently raced CCS and their series is different and I can't tell if it's a good thing or not.
So far CCS hasn't treated me like a low life unlike WERA so I appreciate that. You would think if your in your 9th year racing with a club that if a credit card gets declined they wouldn't treat you like you were a deadbeat and demand cash. Yes it's true I couldn't believe it... I make good money... anyone who can race 9 season's in a row is not poor... anyway I hadn't used a credit card in quite a while and when I used it at for entry fee's they (credit card co.) tried to protect me and declined it. Then when I went up to the both I made the mistake of asking one of the ladies a question and she blew up and said I was rude cause she was writing something. Then she proceded to yell that my credit card was declined and they have too many racers that owe them money. I asked why are you getting so upset and what do the guys who owe you money have to do with me. I asked the quesion a couple of times along with haven't you ever had a card declined for no reason. Neither question has ever been answered......
Well we all make our choices and mine has been not to take the punishment and spend my time where I can enjoy it. BTW I told them not to run my other credit card and loaded up my trailer that morning and went home.. May have been a bad day for those people but damn.... you gotta treat people with some respect..
I'm still racing, just finished the 6th round of a 10 round mountain bike series. Cross country is a lot of fun and maybe I will eventually get in shape.
BTW, just my opinion.... you can form your own if you want.....free world....
i would contact mongo {sean clarke} on the other board W.E.R.A.com. that doesn't sound like anything i've heard from either org. sounds like a one person problem.
I have raced wera and ccs both while in the cmra. the club felt the same with either group. So I think it is just the local club that makes the diference.
ps we also have a wera club in the area and they are good people also.
QuoteLast I checked Evelyne is actually WERA and she's not blasting you.
Som riders might be but please don't accuse WERA of something - just as Zeb got corrected on his statement using CCS rather than saying a CCS racer.
I also looked at the thread and so far don't see anyone blasting you. Are you as sensitive as Zeb?
HHEEYY.... I resemble that remark :) ....No, seriously mongo, I hate to admit I agree with you on this one, Noone is blasting CCS or the starter of this link, nor do I think they will..... and andrew, how many CCS board names do you have?
Actually I was sitting there the whole time that Indiana Roadracer was talking to the officials and he was way out of line to the point of throwing his cc at the registrar. She was trying to be nice and he kept going on and on and finally she got pissed back. Not something I fault her for, I know a lot of the CCS officials and guess what - do the same thing and you'll get the same reaction. You got pissed because we wouldn't run your card again after we had done so repeatedly and we're out of line? Grow up.
While I'm at it - what exactly is wrong with us requiring cash when your cc is declined? We take money for races, you don't give us money we don't let you race. Your cc company is being nice to you that's great but doesn't help us get our money when the card is declined.
waitin' on your reply mr. indiana fast guy!!!
"sorry my card bounced, uh....... can i write a check?"
Mostly I only run Summit Point, but other than class structure, I can't see any real difference. Same guys, same GREAT MARRC corner workers, (AND THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO MOVED THE MOUNTAIN)still fun whoever sanctions it. But with a Buell, in WERA, I only ride the ol'guy class. It's a cheap practice saturday. $65 gets me 2 practices and a race. If I learn anything, someday I might catch Darren and Shannon at the real races. ;D
I have got to agree with Brad it sounds like an isolatred case. Most people at one time or another have a bad day. To condem an entire organization for a single incident seems, to me, excessive.
Sean,
I just wrote a big reply but its not worth it. Bottom line is your still not getting it and I won't get caught up in your version against mine debate, I got better things to do...... Believe what you want people........
QuoteSean,
I just wrote a big reply but its not worth it. Bottom line is your still not getting it and I won't get caught up in your version against mine debate, I got better things to do...... Believe what you want people........
Hey, indiana, tell Mongo "WWHHOOOSSSHHHH", he'll love that!!!!!
QuoteSean,
I just wrote a big reply but its not worth it. Bottom line is your still not getting it and I won't get caught up in your version against mine debate, I got better things to do...... Believe what you want people........
did you, or did you not throw your credit card at the lady? i've never known mongo to lie. he must be in this case huh?! ;)
Quotewera can post your results in the same season. unlike others.
While a valid complaint, where's the credit for having race results caught up through July 14 on July 25? :P
there should be no credit given. i pay entry fees, and results should be posted. should one get credit for doing what they should? if so, i would like a thank you card every time i pay my mortgage bill.
Can you say dead horse.... ::)
Give it a rest before PETA comes.
Mongo probably won't be back. He can't play god on this BBS like he can the other one, and of course he is always right. Just ask his fat ass and he will tell you. He actaully is just a loser.
Whoa there Chad....If you want to talk to him like that over on their BBS, it's between you and him. Personally, I don't much care for that here.
Good Day!
WOW, this is getting juicy..... let me pop some popcorn and hop in the laz-y-boy!!! ;D ;D ;D
QuoteSean,
Bottom line is your still not getting it
Bottom line is YOU are not aware of what an a$$hole you were. I was there, you were out of line and acting like an angry child...
QuoteHe actaully is just a loser.
wow "chad" it takes a real pair of balls to pop in anonomously and talk crap. and what have YOU done for the sport lately? of course you could identify your self with a last name and competition number. me brad wilson EX no. 57. you? what a tosser.
QuoteSean,
I just wrote a big reply but its not worth it. Bottom line is your still not getting it and I won't get caught up in your version against mine debate, I got better things to do...... Believe what you want people........
Go ahead and post your version. I'll gladly state just the facts and allow people to make up their own minds.
You were mad because Nan wouldn't run your card again (after she explained that she had done so repeatedly). You then blew up at her and she reacted. What part are you remembering differently?
QuoteMongo probably won't be back. He can't play god on this BBS like he can the other one, and of course he is always right. Just ask his fat ass and he will tell you. He actaully is just a loser.
ROTFLMFAO - Chad, dude, you must be really pissed at me for something. Care to share what it is or do you prefer to make such statemements anonomously then hide?
FWIW I've never played god and deleted any post on any BBS - especially not those slamming me. If you'd care to do so on either BBS go for it.
QuoteFWIW I've never played god and deleted any post on any BBS - especially not those slamming me. If you'd care to do so on either BBS go for it.
If you could see the chocolate milk spewing out of my nose reading this thread and how hard I'm laughing, I would probably reply to this, but since there is a chance you would take me seriously and get pissed, I'll refrain..... ;D ;D ;D
Quotechocolate milk spewing out of my nose
Pleeez Zeb, keep your sexual quirks in the closet ::)
QuotePleeez Zeb, keep your sexual quirks in the closet ::)
see unlike yourself, who enjoys hamsters up the arse, chocolate milk in the nose is not my sexual preference...
dang zeb, are you sure that is the same eric? i hope so, or he won't get the joke. neither will anyone else on here i suppose. :D
Quotedang zeb, are you sure that is the same eric? i hope so, or he won't get the joke. neither will anyone else on here i suppose. :D
i was assuming it was good ole hamster boy......
QuoteROTFLMFAO - Chad, dude, you must be really pissed at me for something. Care to share what it is or do you prefer to make such statemements anonomously then hide?
FWIW I've never played god and deleted any post on any BBS - especially not those slamming me. If you'd care to do so on either BBS go for it.
I don't race, but I have friends that do and have seen how upset you get when people do slam you on the other BBS, and of course since you are the controller of the BBS when you get upset all the a$$ kissers jump on your bandwagon. The attitude you have on that BBS makes it seem like you think you are god are something. Also if you are the person who checks the tracks for safety for WERA then they should hire someone else to do that I'm sure lots of people could do better, and just let you sit your lazy butt on a computer somewhere. Plus I'm sure from what I've heard about you that you don't walk anywhere. How do you check the track safety from your truck or with binoculars from the trailer. I'm sure no mattrer what comes up though you will be right as usual.
QuoteI don't race, but I have friends that do and have seen how upset you get when people do slam you on the other BBS, and of course since you are the controller of the BBS when you get upset all the a$$ kissers jump on your bandwagon. The attitude you have on that BBS makes it seem like you think you are god are something. Also if you are the person who checks the tracks for safety for WERA then they should hire someone else to do that I'm sure lots of people could do better, and just let you sit your lazy butt on a computer somewhere. Plus I'm sure from what I've heard about you that you don't walk anywhere. How do you check the track safety from your truck or with binoculars from the trailer. I'm sure no mattrer what comes up though you will be right as usual.
I swear that wasn't me mongo.... I SWEAR!!!! :o :o
Quotewow "chad" it takes a real pair of balls to pop in anonomously and talk crap. and what have YOU done for the sport lately? of course you could identify your self with a last name and competition number. me brad wilson EX no. 57. you? what a tosser.
It doesn't surprise me that you are now on this BBS A$$ kissing as usual. I don't race so I don't have a comp #. My last name is Waldon. I'm sure right now you are probably on your knees in front of Mongo.
QuoteI don't race, but I have friends that do and have seen how upset you get when people do slam you on the other BBS, and of course since you are the controller of the BBS when you get upset all the a$$ kissers jump on your bandwagon. The attitude you have on that BBS makes it seem like you think you are god are something. Also if you are the person who checks the tracks for safety for WERA then they should hire someone else to do that I'm sure lots of people could do better, and just let you sit your lazy butt on a computer somewhere. Plus I'm sure from what I've heard about you that you don't walk anywhere. How do you check the track safety from your truck or with binoculars from the trailer. I'm sure no mattrer what comes up though you will be right as usual.
::) mindless prattle from a clown who doesn't even race. maybe "chad" with no last name can start his own race org. don't bring your bike to his weekends, we'll just draw numbers for finish positions and it will be safer than what mongo can do. {dork}
QuoteIt doesn't surprise me that you are now on this BBS A$$ kissing as usual. I don't race so I don't have a comp #. My last name is Waldon. I'm sure right now you are probably on your knees in front of Mongo.
i slam when necessary clown. i've slammed mongo harder than anyone else. he's never played god and erased what i've said. you sir, are a schleprock. people who know me will tell you that i've never kissed an a$$ in my entire life. but, you can kiss mine right now.
Quote::) mindless prattle from a clown who doesn't even race. maybe "chad" with no last name can start his own race org. don't bring your bike to his weekends, we'll just draw numbers for finish positions and it will be safer than what mongo can do. {dork}
I've already said that I have friends that race (I do race dirt bikes), and have seen them get hurt when it could have been avoided with a little help from the people in charge of safety. Of course there you are A$$ kissing again. What are trying to get better grid posistions. Out of all the races I have been to I don't think I've ever seen # 57 anywhere close to the front. I did put my lat name in my last post, and I'm the dork.
i've won more races than you ever could. like i said, start your own race org. since you OBVIOUSLY know everything about it. CCS and WERA do a fine job, so i'll stick with them.
Quotei've won more races than you ever could. like i said, start your own race org. since you OBVIOUSLY know everything about it. CCS and WERA do a fine job, so i'll stick with them.
What did you win races as a novice because I've never seen a #57 expert up front, or do you consider a win in pratice a win. If I had the money I would and I don't think I ever said anything about CCS. Just go back to your own loser life on the other BBS where your A$$ kissing is appreciated.
::) what are you like 17 years old or something. i'll buy you and sell you to a sweatshop.
Quote::) what are you like 17 years old or something. i'll buy you and sell you to a sweatshop.
Yeah you got actually I'm 14. You'd have to catch me first which I doubt will ever hapeen on foot or on a bike. How old are u 65?
i'll be at VIR this weekend fast guy. look me up. <clown>
why is his email slowrider@hotmail then???
Quotei'll be at VIR this weekend fast guy. look me up. <clown>
Shouldn't you be there praticing. I won't be there, but I know people that will so I will ask them how many times #57 ex crashed.
QuoteFWIW I've never played god and deleted any post on any BBS - especially not those slamming me. If you'd care to do so on either BBS go for it.
I was reading a thread on the WERA BBS a week or two ago. A guy who wants to start racing posted, asking if he could race his GSX-R1000. From what I could tell of the thread, it appeared that somebody responded with a post directing him to CCS, including (I gather) a link to this website. Since WERA doesn't allow Novices on 4-cyl. 1000s. I say "from what I could tell" because it appeared that you either deleted the post "because it promoted a competing organization" or at least hacked it to remove the info about CCS and link.
What's the story?
- Stu
no stu he didn't. someone put up a basic CCS ad and it was removed. same as if someone tastelessly put a wera ad on here. you'd expect it removed. that would be like someone advertising as my competition at one of my functions. i wouldn't allow it . no one would.
I WANT MY 2$
Quoteno stu he didn't. someone put up a basic CCS ad and it was removed. same as if someone tastelessly put a wera ad on here. you'd expect it removed. that would be like someone advertising as my competition at one of my functions. i wouldn't allow it . no one would.
I WANT MY 2$
off with this someone shit... it was me....
HAHAHA this board replaces s h i t with nuts... watch... shit...
zeb, you are a pice of shit {that was cool}
shit fuck damn ass
Quoteshit fuck damn ass
guess they don't find anything wrong with ass ;D
If WERA weren't so popular, would this thread be 5 pages already?
i'll bet this thread is the longest that's ever been on this board... either that means wera is more poplular, or that ccs people don't know how to use a computer... either way, it ain't looking too good for thier side. ;D ;D
http://www.racemotorcycles.com/cgi-bin/board/YaBB.pl?board=;action=mltop
HAHAHA, the top poster has 189, HAHAHA.. and we as wera have about 5 people on there!!!!
you know this is not a ccs board this ir run by a fzr 400 racer.
also he does not mind deleting crap that he finds laying around when it makes no sence
Quotehttp://www.racemotorcycles.com/cgi-bin/board/YaBB.pl?board=;action=mltop
HAHAHA, the top poster has 189, HAHAHA.. and we as wera have about 5 people on there!!!!
Golly! You should be SO proud! Don't forget to add this accomplishment to your resume!
- Stu
I WANT MY 2$ 8)
QuoteGolly! You should be SO proud! Don't forget to add this accomplishment to your resume!
- Stu
let's see, where did i mention myself in the post... NOWHERE!!! HAHAHA, moron...
Quoteno stu he didn't. someone put up a basic CCS ad and it was removed.
I assume that this statement is intended to mean the same as this: "someone put up a post that was a basic CCS ad and it was removed by Mongo." Have I got that correct?
And you assert that this does not conflict with Mongo's statement "I've never played god and deleted any post on any BBS"?
Have I understood you correctly?
- Stu
Quotelet's see, where did i mention myself in the post... NOWHERE!!! HAHAHA, moron...
In English, the word "we" means "I and others". You said, "... we as wera ...".
Does that answer your question?
- Stu
Hey guys...
Go back to the WERA board. With the language that is used, I cannot read it at work. (The whole internet police thing). Besides the last few posts were not very entertaining. ::)
what are you talking about? i typed shit, instead i got nuts!?!?
Stu - you are correct I did nuke that post. However I really didn't think that it was the same as playing god, could be wrong though. I have also deleted a post by someone that made what I felt was an overly indecent remark directed at a 15 year old and I have deleted a number of posts at the request of the posters. However I think you'll find that anything slamming me or WERA is still there for anyone to see.
Chad - anytime you would care to spend a weekend with me and see how I do or don't do my job come on out. As for the rest - until you have the balls to post some actual incidents to back up your insinuations you fall into the insignificant category. If you'd care to share just how I or something I did injured your friends I'd love to hear it. I would suggest that you post it on my (note the godlike use of the first person) BBS since you seem unable to refrain using words that are getting people in trouble. Email would be fine as well if you'd rather not get a rebuttal publicly...
Just FYI that was me that made that post about racing my 1000 and yes that part about ccs was later taken off..but it wasn't taken off till after i got the info i needed...there was no reason for it to stay on there....and a few people from wera have helped me about getting started...even if it mean racing ccs... and just for the record if and when wera makes a class for us or i become an expert..lol..(someday) i will also race wera...and here is my $.02......i post at both places and i get along with everyone on both that is because i never get on here bashing anyone about anything other than the ones who came up with Gay Medic..lol...you know who you are...j/k...but i do speak my mind and do not care who looks at it nor do i have a probl;em saying it...some of you..i will not mention any names...are some of the biggest cry babies i have ever seen...and what is so funny is the stuff you cry about nobody but you seems to care about nor do they want to hear it...maybe we need to put up a catagory for babies on both bords...at least that will give you a place to cry :)......ok enough said...sorry for all that had to read that ...but you know who you are and if it didn't apply to you then smile :) and have a great day....see you at Robling next weekend..not racing wera but i'm going with some buddies that are and i think i'm gonna try and get in some track time friday..see ya there..
Hey WERA boys, posting here will not pad your post count at the other board. Just thought you might want to know. :P
Just checking to see if the shit=nuts thing is really true!!!!HAHAHAHAHAHa
Oh, and one other thing-
Argueing on the internet si like being in the special
olympics, you might win but you are still retarded!!!! ;D
QuoteHey guys...
Go back to the WERA board. With the language that is used, I cannot read it at work. (The whole internet police thing). Besides the last few posts were not very entertaining. ::)
Funny, you don't know what you are talking about, there is no way to "police" text", it is embedded in the html code and is only known with a bunch of 1's and 0's over your network line........ sit down and break out the pop-corn....
Sweatshops, special olympics, insane paperboys and shit, this is fantastic!
Zeb:
I work in a place where phone calls are recorded along with the screens that are displayed on my computer. You can see everything when the call is reviewed.
Funny.... Who doesn't know what they are talking about now? :o
If you want to talk racing, fine, your more than welcome. If not, take your banter somewhere else.
Dawn :P
QuoteFunny, you don't know what you are talking about, there is no way to "police" text", it is embedded in the html code and is only known with a bunch of 1's and 0's over your network line........ sit down and break out the pop-corn....
Ha ha haaa!! This is great! You might as well have just said "you don't know what you're talking about, the sky is green and the Earth is flat."
For anybody who might have actually believed this statement, let me explain a little about how some things actually work so you don't go away thinking you're safe when you're not.
When you use a HTTP connection (i.e. your browser's address bar starts with HTTP://something-or-other), all the HTML and embedded text that is sent to and from your browser is sent as "plain text". That means it is not encrypted at all. The alternative is to use HTTPS, which tells your browser to use SSL encryption to talk to the website you are connecting to. Some websites support HTTPS/SSL and some don't.
Anyway, if you are using HTTP, then anybody that is monitoring your network can capture the packets that are being sent back and forth from your machine, recognize them as HTML with embedded text and scan the text.
In other words, if somebody wanted to capture all your packets, they could have a browser on their computer display exactly the same thing the browser on your computer is displaying. Or, of course, they could have a program that simply monitors what goes in and out of your computer and sift through it looking for "bad" words, and sending notifications to an Admin person whenever it finds one.
Thank goodness ole Zeb isn't the Network Admin or Network Security person at my company! I guess I shouldn't be surprised coming from the person who doesn't know the definition of the word "we" includes the speaker (or typer) himself.
- Stu
QuoteFunny, you don't know what you are talking about, there is no way to "police" text", it is embedded in the html code and is only known with a bunch of 1's and 0's over your network line........ sit down and break out the pop-corn....
Zeb,
I can write a simple program that search through any incoming data stream through my network connection and filter out any combination of letters/characters, or any combination that closely resembles it.
yes data come through 1's and 0's, but each character in the set is saved in a byte that has its own value, so we will be filtering a specific set of 1's and 0's. HTML and all other un-encrypted streams are sent as text so very easy to filter. Many jobs do it.
As for WERA board. I started going there before I started racing. I still never done one WERA weekend, but I get most of the information I need pertained to road racing from over there. The CCS board is growing, and I visit both places everyday, I just think it is great to have 2 resources instead of one.
Have WERA and CCS at the same time in the same country is what this great country is about, individual choices. Each is different from another, no fair comparison can be made, because we draw our conclusions from personal data rather than a overall, unbiased, objective view.
Lets all agree on the fact that it is great for our sport that TWO seperate org's can co-exist and race at the same race tracks. That means our sport is live and well and growing.
I will race WERA when I get the chance, and I believe, however different, it would be a rewarding experience, and I would love it nonetheless, because I will be racing my bike, something I love to do.
yeah, the world is full of wanna be hackers looking for work. ::)
QuoteZeb:
If you want to talk racing, fine, your more than welcome. If not, take your banter somewhere else.
Dawn :P
Some of us at the WERA board were kinda hoping you'd keep Zeb overe HERE. ;D
that shit was funny as hell!!
Geez you go away racing for one weekend and everything just goes to shit! ;D
I LOVE THAT STORY!
Oh, no doubt that you CAN screen everyone's text with a browser, but do you know how much computing power it would take to screen EVERYONE's packets??? Funny, I have a formula right here in front of me that's telling me that computing power for 1,000 is astronomical, 1 person maybe, 10 people, likely, 1,000+ don't even try....... never said it COULDN'T be done, anything CAN be done, the question is ARE they doing it, doubt it..... now if you want to start trading credentials, then we will, but when it comes to security, don't even try....
QuoteSome of us at the WERA board were kinda hoping you'd keep Zeb overe HERE. ;D
this coming from a guy who molests hamsters in his free time??? ;D
QuoteOh, no doubt that you CAN screen everyone's text with a browser, but do you know how much computing power it would take to screen EVERYONE's packets??? Funny, I have a formula right here in front of me that's telling me that computing power for 1,000 is astronomical, 1 person maybe, 10 people, likely, 1,000+ don't even try....... never said it COULDN'T be done, anything CAN be done, the question is ARE they doing it, doubt it..... now if you want to start trading credentials, then we will, but when it comes to security, don't even try....
An average HTML page sized at 10k (text) loaded over 1 second. Times that by 1000 is 10,000k, which is 10MB's which is about the upward limit of a usual network connection.
You mean to tell me that your server can't filter though 10mb of data every second at the MOST? It is not astronomical... and most pages can be delayed more than 5 seconds without complain, so filtering is doable, and many times, done. It is not THAT unfeasible. IF we are talking about a company with 50 employees, it is VERY doable. IF we are talking about 1000 employees, then they would have more HW to filter.
zeb works for US intelligence {oxymoron} in their IS dept. he might know something.
QuoteAn average HTML page sized at 10k (text) loaded over 1 second. Times that by 1000 is 10,000k, which is 10MB's which is about the upward limit of a usual network connection.
You mean to tell me that your server can't filter though 10mb of data every second at the MOST? It is not astronomical... and most pages can be delayed more than 5 seconds without complain, so filtering is doable, and many times, done. It is not THAT unfeasible. IF we are talking about a company with 50 employees, it is VERY doable. IF we are talking about 1000 employees, then they would have more HW to filter.
ok, so you've already maxxed out a 10 mb connection on the 8080 port.... now let's add in email aka the 25 port....and would you also like to add in quicktime, realplayer, WMP, and all the other various media players...... then we have JAVA plug-ins...... see where i'm going with this... if you're going to screen employees, you don't JUST screen the 8080 port, you have to screen everything.... it would be like installing an alarm system at your house and just putting a sensor on one out of 5 doors, and leaving all the windows wide open.... while at an IT security conference the other week, while briefing I might add... I heard someone say that you don't have to have the best security, just better than the rest cause someone will always go for the lowest hanging branch......
this is looking more like a WERA thread every-day...... I mean over here, everything stays on topic.... over at the WERA BBS, I can't think of one thread that's still on... well maybe the papa thread....
Quotethis coming from a guy who molests hamsters in his free time???
I don't partake of their pleasures, I provide them as a service to lonely indiviuals, mostly government geeks. I guess all your dates ae funded by the taxpayers? ::)
freakin democrats. ::)
Quoteok, so you've already maxxed out a 10 mb connection on the 8080 port.... now let's add in email aka the 25 port....and would you also like to add in quicktime, realplayer, WMP, and all the other various media players...... then we have JAVA plug-ins...... see where i'm going with this... if you're going to screen employees, you don't JUST screen the 8080 port, you have to screen everything.... it would be like installing an alarm system at your house and just putting a sensor on one out of 5 doors, and leaving all the windows wide open.... while at an IT security conference the other week, while briefing I might add... I heard someone say that you don't have to have the best security, just better than the rest cause someone will always go for the lowest hanging branch......
Point taken, although if I was to monitor my employees, I would monitor the hosts they visit the most frequenly and most likely to reduce their productivity. RIght now I just have to walk around and see them hahahah
But I have worked at places before that only monitor/screen/filter incoming datastream on 8080 and email (on the exchange server) for centain many words. Not arguing that it is good security, just saying it is doable and it has been done.
QuotePoint taken, although if I was to monitor my employees, I would monitor the hosts they visit the most frequenly and most likely to reduce their productivity. RIght now I just have to walk around and see them hahahah
But I have worked at places before that only monitor/screen/filter incoming datastream on 8080 and email (on the exchange server) for centain many words. Not arguing that it is good security, just saying it is doable and it has been done.
you are correct, studies have show, that just by eliminating sites like e-bay, all personals sites (yahoo personals, friend-finder, etc.)... cuts 8080 streams by 25%........
I can't believe Brad knowingly put Zeb, US and intelligence all in the same sentence. He needs a common sense checker or something. :) <-----notice the smiley before you become irrational and start to post off topic, well since we are already off topict....post away.
Will this thread EVER end???? Shawn where are you!
QuoteWill this thread EVER end???? Shawn where are you!
not used to people actually talking in threads are you??? :o
QuoteWill this thread EVER end???? Shawn where are you!
don't like it dawn? don't click on it!!
Zeb and THE DOC:
Myself, like others, check out his BBS for racing information. After all this is the CCS (Championship Cup Series) BBS. We would expect that this would contain posts relating to such.
Watching this thread turn into something other than racing related is not why we tune in. Degrading each other and calling others names in my book is just not entertaining. Save that for another BBS.
QuoteZeb and THE DOC:
Myself, like others, check out his BBS for racing information. After all this is the CCS (Championship Cup Series) BBS. We would expect that this would contain posts relating to such.
Watching this thread turn into something other than racing related is not why we tune in. Degrading each other and calling others names in my book is just not entertaining. Save that for another BBS.
ok, just in case you have no common sense at all.... this thread does not, or ever will contain any racing information... this is known as an off-topic thread.... so unless you like getting yourself worked up, or unless you like fussing, then just don't click on this thread.....
That would be fine if you limited your WERA BBS-esque posts to this thread, but now you've started another. I promise to stay out of this thread if you promise to keep the mindless drivel in it to this thread.
I second that!
::) ccs people {myself included} are so cerebral.
Brad Cerebral on a BBS. That doesn't happen very often. Let's talk about remote control heart rate contollers. That 'll put em all to sleep and we can take over the BBS ::)
QuoteBrad Cerebral on a BBS. That doesn't happen very often. Let's talk about remote control heart rate contollers. That 'll put em all to sleep and we can take over the BBS ::)
why the ala??? changing religions on us or something??
Nah Poor typing skills late at night. Cursor was in the wrong place when I typed and I didn't notice.
QuoteNah Poor typing skills late at night. Cursor was in the wrong place when I typed and I didn't notice.
or were you just using your left hand to type.... that and a slippery mouse make it hard to type huh???? ;D ;D
The whole WERA vs CCS thing is fun to watch, each side has its own thing going. They are both fine. Then we had a couple of the WERA bbs regulars stop on in and stir the pot alittle. Things must have gotton slow over there.
I do have a question for the DOC, brad,#57 or whoever. Just how many races have you won? Do you race WERA? Personally I am curious. What kind of bike do you ride and what were your lap times at VIR this weekend?
So Zeb... US intelligence, huh?.... My Fiancee's dad works for DISA PAC... and for some reason, everytime I ask him about the 'Echelon Network', he claims he doesn' know what I'm talking about. :-X ;)
QuoteSo Zeb... US intelligence, huh?.... My Fiancee's dad works for DISA PAC... and for some reason, everytime I ask him about the 'Echelon Network', he claims he doesn' know what I'm talking about. :-X ;)
neither do i...... ;D AAAAHHH, the good ole boys from the pacific field command.... they really don't have much info on... well for our purposes, let's call it Big E...... they mostly just set up and use the Big E.... the fun part is over here at the "No Such Agency" where we get to oversee development and testing of the Big E... but going any farther would start veering away from the unclassified information that's readily available on the internet......
Yea, yea.. I hear ya.
I think it's kinda funny.. his title is "Communications Specialist"... yea.... riggghhht.
QuoteYea, yea.. I hear ya.
I think it's kinda funny.. his title is "Communications Specialist"... yea.... riggghhht.
my title is "Programmer" ;D
:D ... like calling Gotti a "Cleaner"
I guess brad is still counting all his trophies ::)
Dawn, I gotta agree with the others. If you don't like it, just don't click on the thread. Don't get me wrong, I don't care for the foolishness either, but they are just trying to get a reaction.
My guess is, neither of them really care. They are just egging it on cause people are taking the bait.
QuoteDawn, I gotta agree with the others. If you don't like it, just don't click on the thread. Don't get me wrong, I don't care for the foolishness either, but they are just trying to get a reaction.
My guess is, neither of them really care. They are just egging it on cause people are taking the bait.
I like how you read a little more into our rants than most people, but for me, I was on here conversing with a fellow racers and others got on here saying i had no right to do that (if you look back you will see they were the first to start the name calling and the complaining) so........ moral of the story is, if someone is having a conversation, instead of complaining about them talking about stuff you don't care about, just don't click on the thread....
QuoteI like how you read a little more into our rants than most people, but for me, I was on here conversing with a fellow racers and others got on here saying i had no right to do that (if you look back you will see they were the first to start the name calling and the complaining) so........ moral of the story is, if someone is having a conversation, instead of complaining about them talking about stuff you don't care about, just don't click on the thread....
well I clicked on it and your conversation s ucks!!! :P ;D
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this idetical to the other thread?
QuoteCorrect me if I'm wrong, but isn't this idetical to the other thread?
yeah, but this one was getting full..... maybe someone will start "If Zeb were so popular.."... ;D
If a tree falls in the woods does it make a sound?
If zeb farts and no one hears it does it still stink?
If people on here said things to just get a reaction from people does it mean they're right?
These questions and more...