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Motorcycle Racing => Wrenching => Topic started by: MadXX on September 30, 2003, 07:29:58 PM

Title: Winterizing
Post by: MadXX on September 30, 2003, 07:29:58 PM
Stupid newbie question:  When you pack the racebike away for the winter in an unheated area what do you do with the cooling system.  drain it and leave it dry, replace it with an antifreeze mixture, or ???

anything else I need to be concerned with?  I am going to change the oil, pull the battery, drain the carbs, and fill the tank with stabilized gas before packing it away but I always feel like I am missing something...
Title: Re: Winterizing
Post by: bweber on October 01, 2003, 08:23:37 AM
Add antifreeze.  The problem with draining them is that you cannot get all the water out of the engine, so that will freeze and potentially damage the engine.  If you put antifreeze in and run the engine to mix the coolant, you don't have to worry about it, plus it will keep the aluminum parts from corroding.
Title: Re: Winterizing
Post by: MadXX on October 01, 2003, 08:27:16 AM
Thats what I thought but I wanted confirmation.  

Thanks.
Title: Re: Winterizing
Post by: Mark Bernard on October 01, 2003, 12:50:24 PM
And pull the tires if possible, or at least get them off the ground.
Title: Re: Winterizing
Post by: MadXX on October 01, 2003, 02:38:01 PM
I have both front and rear pit bull stands for it so I will make sure I use them.  Thanks
Title: Re: Winterizing
Post by: Super Dave on October 03, 2003, 12:30:52 PM
Tires...yeah, take them off if they are decent and put them in the basement.  

I like to add fuel stablizer.  Very important if you don't use race gas.  Race gas doesn't deteriorate like pump gas.
Title: Re: Winterizing
Post by: MadXX on October 03, 2003, 03:17:11 PM
My poor street bike is gonna be jealous of all this attention its little sister is getting.   :'(

Ah well.  Tires are coming off and into the basement.  

If I pull the tank and keep it warm can I also keep it empty?  I was thinking of doing some creative painting this winter if I have time and dont want to have to drain the tank to paint it.  But I also don't want it to corrode either.
Title: Re: Winterizing
Post by: 251am on October 04, 2003, 12:08:26 AM
 Not sure about the tank, but if you're going to paint it why not. On the anti-freeze head to a Honda or Toyota car dealership and get the Honda or Toyota coolant. It is much more aluminum friendly.
Title: Re: Winterizing
Post by: Super Dave on October 04, 2003, 04:50:09 AM
QuoteIf I pull the tank and keep it warm can I also keep it empty?.

Warmth really doesn't play a factor.

If it has fuel in it. the pump gas deteriorates.  Pump gas is designed to be good for 14 to 28 days.  After that, it can start to turn to crud.  Racing fuel is different.  

An empty tank?  Well, depending upon the moisture content of the air, you can get some rust.  So, really for storage, often, you're better off keeping it full with some stabilizer or race fuel in it.  Just some thoughts.

But if you're painting....
Title: Re: Winterizing
Post by: rickj on October 04, 2003, 08:05:04 AM
plug the exhaust and airbox/carb inlets.......keeps out the rodents
Title: Re: Winterizing
Post by: unforgivenracing on October 24, 2003, 10:46:00 PM
1)Replace antifreeze to coolant system
2)fill tank to the top until you need to work on it.
3)drain the carbs [if so equiped] and the fuel pump ect. shoot some oil into the thottle bodys and work it around.
4) put a tbs. of oil into each sparkplug port and cycle the motor a few times to coat the cylinder walls.[do this with the engine cut-off switch in the "off".]
5) clean the bike top to bottom
6) place on front and read stands if possible to get tires off ground.
7) stuff racket balls in tailpipes to help prevent moisture from entering motor.
8) tape plasticwrap or tinfoile over intake ports, or remove airfilter, cover with plastic wrap and reinstall.  [help prevent moisture in motor and thottle bodys.
9) cover with a bike cover, heavy moving blanket, ect. If possible a shipping bag that covers all of bike from rodents and moisture, and can allow you to pack in about one pound of dry-pak pellets.(the stuff thy pack computers with.)
10) plan for next season! ;D
Title: Re: Winterizing
Post by: Super Dave on October 25, 2003, 06:41:38 AM
Or...

I just take my whole bike to 4&6 to get ready for 2004.   ;D  There we go!  (Thanks Jim!)

http://4and6.com
Title: Re: Winterizing
Post by: stickman on October 25, 2003, 05:42:50 PM
Pump gas is good up to two months.

Good article from STA-BILĀ® FUEL STABILIZER
http://www.goldeagle.com/sta-bil/faqs.htm
Title: Re: Winterizing
Post by: Super Dave on October 26, 2003, 03:47:04 AM
Well, it says some treated fuels are good for that long.

What I learned in the power equipment industry was that manufacturers of gasoline for street use only make them to last about 14 to 28 days.  Then they deteriorate.  We would see lawnmowers have running problems during the summer time, depending upon the customers' fuel storage practices in those short periods of time.  Not everyone, but some.