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Motorcycle Racing => Motorcycle Talk => Topic started by: MAZZ77X on December 16, 2013, 07:05:51 PM

Title: AMA proposed light weight class........
Post by: MAZZ77X on December 16, 2013, 07:05:51 PM
Thoughts?


I'm thinking it will be a 300cc class but would like to see them use a 500cc bike or maybe even a 650 twin like the Gladius or Kawi. Either way I think it's awesome and is exactly what is needed here in America to save road racing!
Title: Re: AMA proposed light weight class........
Post by: leeroy996 on December 17, 2013, 03:06:59 PM
Quote from: MAZZ77X on December 16, 2013, 07:05:51 PM
Thoughts?


I'm thinking it will be a 300cc class but would like to see them use a 500cc bike or maybe even a 650 twin like the Gladius or Kawi. Either way I think it's awesome and is exactly what is needed here in America to save road racing!


CBR500 is perfect, get a manufacturer involved and  encourage overseas participation.  Make the rules match WSBK.
Make the big bikes the premier class again.
Title: Re: AMA proposed light weight class........
Post by: LWT Racer on December 17, 2013, 03:40:40 PM
300 or 500 class would be my guess with both Honda and Kawi making new models in both those sizes. 

I wish it be 650 class.
Title: Re: AMA proposed light weight class........
Post by: bruce71198 on December 23, 2013, 09:34:57 PM
How bout the duc 749?
Title: Re: AMA proposed light weight class........
Post by: benprobst on December 24, 2013, 01:56:37 AM
Quote from: bruce71198 on December 23, 2013, 09:34:57 PM
How bout the duc 749?


565 would be better.
Title: Re: AMA proposed light weight class........
Post by: LWT Racer on December 24, 2013, 11:29:56 AM
Just what we need, another i-4 class.


Get that junk outta here ben. :)
Title: Re: AMA proposed light weight class........
Post by: benprobst on December 24, 2013, 01:06:58 PM
Quote from: Swiest on December 24, 2013, 11:29:56 AM
Just what we need, another i-4 class.


Get that junk outta here ben. :)


i keed i keed
Title: Re: AMA proposed light weight class........
Post by: roadracer162 on December 24, 2013, 02:18:23 PM
The European Junior Cup utilizes the Honda 500 and it seems to be a good platform for that beginner racer.
Title: Re: AMA proposed light weight class........
Post by: MaRce1o on January 10, 2014, 04:15:18 PM
This would be interesting
Title: Re: AMA proposed light weight class........
Post by: Gino230 on March 17, 2014, 05:48:58 PM
Would be great to see something like the old Pro Thunder, or the 250GP class. Too bad there aren't enough bikes being built to support it.

Is this just a rumor? Next year the 200 will be Superbikes again. So there will be 2 600 classes that are not much different, and one Superbike class. Then need something different.
Title: Re: AMA proposed light weight class........
Post by: ahastings on March 17, 2014, 07:36:55 PM
I think they are combining the 600 classes next year
Title: Re: AMA proposed light weight class........
Post by: MAZZ77X on March 17, 2014, 08:17:02 PM
Quote from: ahastings on March 17, 2014, 07:36:55 PM
I think they are combining the 600 classes next year

2014 will be the last year for Supersport.

The "Proposed" lightweight class would replace it.......
Title: Re: AMA proposed light weight class........
Post by: ahastings on March 18, 2014, 03:17:51 PM
I don't really see a point for a lightweight class using slow underpowered 250/300cc streetbikes in what is supposed to be the premier professional series in the country. Considering you have to be 16 yrs old to run AMA,  kids that are racing at that level are normally ready for a 600 by then if they are going pro. Unfortunately unlike motocross there are very few professional roadracers that can actually make a living at it.
Title: Re: AMA proposed light weight class........
Post by: MAZZ77X on March 18, 2014, 08:57:13 PM
That the main problem...... Very very few 16 year olds are truly ready for a 600. It's just the American way to make the move when age allows. Spending 2 years (16-18) in a properly run lightweight class can make good riders into great riders.


Most of the worlds top racers stay on small bikes far longer than we do in the US..........
Title: Re: AMA proposed light weight class........
Post by: apriliaman on March 19, 2014, 05:56:17 PM
Here it is! It says 4 cylinder up to 400cc so I guess I can ride my 1988 yamaha fzr 400 in the class
http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/asraccs-adds-new-500cc-supersport-class/
Title: Re: AMA proposed light weight class........
Post by: ahastings on March 19, 2014, 06:01:18 PM
Just saw that Mark. Yes CCS/ASRA is a great place for such a class. But I dont think AMA pro racing is. Mazz you prob are right that most 16/17 yr olds are not ready for a 600, but at the pro level should be a different story such as your son he will be ready for sure by the time he is 16 with his experience. A lot of kids don't get the early start needed to turn pro at that young age.
Title: Re: AMA proposed light weight class........
Post by: MAZZ77X on March 20, 2014, 08:10:37 PM
Arnie as much as I would like to think Anthony will be ready I still think racing a smaller bike at the pro level is  a great way to acclimate to the world of professional racing where everyone is fast.
Title: Re: AMA proposed light weight class........
Post by: Gino230 on April 03, 2014, 01:28:59 PM
I fee like I responded to a thread like this but it may have been on the Jennings forum....Anyway,


I spoke to AMA pro a few weeks ago, the 600 classes are being combined, with the rules leaning towards DSB rules rather than supersport. The new class rules for the AMA LW class have yet to be written, with the primary idea being the Honda CBR 500, but the KTM 360 is also competitive so they need to write the rules to include that.


I'm not sure who will race it, maybe kids and young guys who can't afford to spend $30K building a competitive DSB. Light rider weight and size will be key as these bikes don't make much HP.


I would have thought the 600's would stay closer to SS rules, since that is what's going on in the rest of the world and it keeps costs down, and hopefully encourages manufacturer support as well as privateer entries.


The LW class will be cheap by comparison, and much slower than Moto 3.