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Title: Is the MW schedule a little crazy or is it just me
Post by: Dawn on April 30, 2003, 04:45:04 PM
I'm looking at the MW schedule (perhaps it just didn't register before) and it goes as follows:

April 5-6th BHF
April 25-27th RA (3 weeks between races)
May 10-11 BHF (2 weeks between races)
May 23-25 Mid America (2 weeks between races)
May 31 - June 1 BHF (1 week between races)

HOLY SMOKES!  Three race weekends in 4 weeks.  Who can travel that much?  Not I, work won't allow it.  Oh well, there goes our chance at a championship.  If another LW guy can make it to all the dates, they may have it wrapped up.

Dawn   :'(
Title: Re: Is the MW schedule a little crazy or is it jus
Post by: tzracer on April 30, 2003, 04:59:22 PM
I can.

Schools on May 10 (BHF), May 17 (Gingerman) and May31 (BHF). Also planning on going to MAM with Dean H. 4 weekends in a row. BHF isn't really traveling, less than an hour from home.
Title: Re: Is the MW schedule a little crazy or is it jus
Post by: Dawn on April 30, 2003, 05:06:52 PM
I'm glad you can Brian but we can't, plus the travel involved...

BHF - 4 hours 15 minutes
RA - 2 hours
Mid America - 11 hours or so..

Sheesh! Poor Stumpy, he's in the UP so it is even longer for them.

Dawn   :-/
Title: Re: Is the MW schedule a little crazy or is it jus
Post by: stumpy on April 30, 2003, 05:26:54 PM
Ya I've been kinda stressin' that. I'm glad I'm not the only one that can't make it. Just the gas expense itself is alot more. MAM is like 14 hrs away :'( I really really want to go though. I would have to take a couple more days just for travel. Dont' think its possible....Oh well it's all good though at least I'm fortunate enough to make the ones I can :)
Title: Re: Is the MW schedule a little crazy or is it jus
Post by: Protein Filled on April 30, 2003, 06:02:35 PM
I think that having that many races in one region will eventually cost CCS money.

My theory may be wrong, but my reaoning is that I race CRA and CCS both.  Last year I raced all the midwest CCS races as well as a few CRA weekends. It was waaaay too much, so I had to make a decision this year on what I was going to do. If CCS would have only had 8 to 10 weekends, then I would have done as many CCS races as possible and then maybe one or 2 CRA races, but since there are 13 midwest weekends, I decided to do all 6 CRA races and make as many CCS races as I could.

Sometimes more is less...
Title: Re: Is the MW schedule a little crazy or is it jus
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on April 30, 2003, 06:14:01 PM
Admit it Edgar.  You're just afraid of Casper and me. ;D
Title: Re: Is the MW schedule a little crazy or is it jus
Post by: MightyDuc Racing on April 30, 2003, 06:38:29 PM
On the other end of the spectrum...we have a 2 month gap between rounds...May 26-July 19...ouch.  I guess I am spoiled as far as traveling...didn't realize ya'll went 11-14 hours to race.  My longest drive is Jennings at 5.5 hours.
Title: Re: Is the MW schedule a little crazy or is it jus
Post by: Woofentino Pugrossi on April 30, 2003, 06:41:29 PM
QuoteI'm glad you can Brian but we can't, plus the travel involved...

BHF - 4 hours 15 minutes
RA - 2 hours
Mid America - 11 hours or so..

Sheesh! Poor Stumpy, he's in the UP so it is even longer for them.

Dawn   :-/


Hmmm, for me....
RA - 2.75 hrs
MAM - 8 hrs
BHF - 20 MINUTES. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Is the MW schedule a little crazy or is it jus
Post by: MightyDuc Racing on April 30, 2003, 06:46:03 PM
Is it just me, or does MAM seem like it should be in a different region (based on you all's driving times posted)?  Where the heck is it, Utah???

 ;D
Title: Re: Is the MW schedule a little crazy or is it jus
Post by: SliderPhoto on April 30, 2003, 07:11:58 PM
Hehehe, you should see my schedule.  ;D :P
Title: Re: Is the MW schedule a little crazy or is it jus
Post by: sdiver68 on April 30, 2003, 07:23:21 PM
April 5-6 BHF 6 hours
April 25-27 RA 8 hours
May 17-18 Gingerman 10 hours
May 23-25 MAM 6 hours

Northern Illinois, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Iowa in a region that is supposed to be centered in St. Louis?

Hmmmm

Funnier  ::) still, all NORTH in the early Spring???

Still don't know how Great Plains ended up in Gingerman instead of BHF the weekend before.... ::)
Title: Re: Is the MW schedule a little crazy or is it jus
Post by: oh344ccs on April 30, 2003, 07:28:01 PM
your schedule is nuts.  I wanted to race in the MW but, 12 rounds all 8hrs. away ???. had to try that other org..  First round this weekend ;D ;D  at Putnam. I think CCS should break up the races into more regions, they could still get all the entries, but a racer could race 8 races for a title.  I mean really at about 1K average for a weekend, how much can most of us spend for a hobby(face it you'll never be Bostrom)  ;D.  
Title: Re: Is the MW schedule a little crazy or is it jus
Post by: GSXR RACER MIKE on April 30, 2003, 09:14:46 PM
QuoteHmmm, for me....
RA - 2.75 hrs
MAM - 8 hrs
BHF - 20 MINUTES. ;D ;D ;D

     Rob, Do you live in Rockford, Illinois also? By the travel times you listed it looks as though you do. I make somewhat better time than that to MAM, more like 6 1/2 -7 hours or so. That is the farthest track for me on the MW schedule, so this years schedule couldn't be too much better in my case.
     Since I am doing all 3 regions schedules (MW,GL, & GP), I will be doing 16 events this season. The 1 event (other than Daytona) that will require a bit of driving for me will be Barber Motorsports Park in Alabama. I am actually looking forward to the BMP event in August, even though it is in the middle of a 3 consecutive weekend string of events including RA and BHF.
     Starting with the BHF event next weekend I will be going to 4 events that are on 4 consecutive weekends in a row, that's going to be interesting.
Title: Re: Is the MW schedule a little crazy or is it jus
Post by: Super_KC124 on April 30, 2003, 09:49:05 PM
With all the dates and all the twin sprint weekends, I'm skipping quite a few races. Too much money for me. :'(
Title: Re: Is the MW schedule a little crazy or is it jus
Post by: DRU2 on April 30, 2003, 10:23:10 PM
Did anyone notice that its Mothersday the next weekend at Blackhawk. This is the second year that Mom got the short end of the stick. Going to have to think about this one!
Title: Re: Is the MW schedule a little crazy or is it jus
Post by: Super_KC124 on April 30, 2003, 10:28:01 PM
Just bring Mom along. What a great present! ;D
Title: Re: Is the MW schedule a little crazy or is it jus
Post by: Pit_Girl on May 01, 2003, 05:45:23 AM
Quote(face it you'll
     never be Bostrom)  .

well, we can dream, cant we? ;D  ;D ;D 8)

besides...who wants to dream of being one of the Bostroms when you could be Rossi :P  ;D

-jennifer
Title: Re: Is the MW schedule a little crazy or is it jus
Post by: EX#996 on May 01, 2003, 06:10:11 AM
QuoteDid anyone notice that its Mothersday the next weekend at Blackhawk. This is the second year that Mom got the short end of the stick. Going to have to think about this one!

We're bringing Paul's mom along.  There is nothing better than having a day at the track with family.

Dawn   ;D
Title: Re: Is the MW schedule a little crazy or is it jus
Post by: EX#996 on May 01, 2003, 06:16:13 AM
Quoteyour schedule is nuts.  I wanted to race in the MW but, 12 rounds all 8hrs. away ???. had to try that other org..  First round this weekend ;D ;D  at Putnam. I think CCS should break up the races into more regions, they could still get all the entries, but a racer could race 8 races for a title.  I mean really at about 1K average for a weekend, how much can most of us spend for a hobby(face it you'll never be Bostrom)  ;D.  

I agree.  The midwest has 13 race weekends with two of those being twin sprint weekends.  If there were 8 to 10 we may be able to pull it off, but 15 full race schedules is way to much.  

Dawn   :)
Title: Re: Is the MW schedule a little crazy or is it jus
Post by: Nate R on May 01, 2003, 06:41:51 AM
Yeah, I think it's out of hand. That's a LOT of events. No hopes of a championship EVER if I can only make it to RAs and BHFs. But, that's the way it goes, I guess.

Also, yeah, me and Jennifer sure did notice it's Mother's day then.  Because of that, she can't go  watch me race. Again.  :( :'(
Title: Re: Is the MW schedule a little crazy or is it jus
Post by: StumpysWife on May 01, 2003, 06:55:41 AM
Stumpy's mom will be with us again.  And Dad.  And Aunt Judy.  And cousin Alana.  Did I mention I'm going, too?  I'm a mom.....to a weiner dog!!!!!!!!    

I really can't think of a better way to spend Mother's Day myself ;D.  My mom and grandma are most definitely not joining us.  After hearing the toned down version of events at RA, grandma asked if he's done now.  Ahhhh no.  
Title: Re: Is the MW schedule a little crazy or is it jus
Post by: EX#996 on May 01, 2003, 07:06:44 AM
QuoteStumpy's mom will be with us again.  And Dad.  And Aunt Judy.  And cousin Alana.  Did I mention I'm going, too?  I'm a mom.....to a weiner dog!!!!!!!!    

I really can't think of a better way to spend Mother's Day myself ;D.  My mom and grandma are most definitely not joining us.  After hearing the toned down version of events at RA, grandma asked if he's done now.  Ahhhh no.  

My parents won't come either.  One of my dad's drivers of his stock car became paralized after dad pulled him from a burning car (mid 70's, no automatic fire extinguishers in the cars) so now he thinks that is going to happen to Paul  ::).  It doesn't mean that it can't happen, but they think it will.  Plus, a good friend of theirs was killed a few years ago stock car racing.  My parents seem to forget the many, many years of racing that occurred before and after that unfortunate day where there was no injuries.  Oh well, nothing I can do about that one.

Grandma on the other hand....  Paul's grandma asked how he did and I told her.  Now if she remembers that today is another matter.  Its great, you can tell her the same story over, and over, and over again.   ;D

Dawn   :)
Title: Re: Is the MW schedule a little crazy or is it jus
Post by: tzracer on May 01, 2003, 07:18:38 AM
My job (college physics instructor) is good and bad when it comes to vacation time. According to my contract I get 3 days of vacation per school year and I do not get to choose them (Thanksgiving, day after Thanksgiving and Friday before Easter). Spring break and Christmas break are not vacation, I am unemployed during those times - they are not days included in my contract. In addition I get 2 personal days. However my year ends in mid May and begins at the end of August. I did go to college for 8 years (5 years undergraduate - BS Physics and BS Math, 3 years graduate school - MS Physics) to become eligible for my job. I do work during the summer (industrial laser operator/programmer), but that job has no vacation days, I just tell them when I won't be at work. The main reason I go to most races is due to my commitment with Learning Curves.

Dawn, do you need to take vacation days to race at BHF?
Title: Re: Is the MW schedule a little crazy or is it jus
Post by: EX#996 on May 01, 2003, 07:29:48 AM
QuoteDawn, do you need to take vacation days to race at BHF?

Yeah, and so does Paul.  We make it work, but sometimes you have  :-* your supervisor a bit.

Dawn   ;D
Title: Re: Is the MW schedule a little crazy or is it jus
Post by: GSXR RACER MIKE on May 01, 2003, 07:51:11 AM
     After being at my job for 15 years now, I get 4 weeks vacation, which I can divide up any way I want to. I was originally only racing sprints that fell on Sundays this season so I wouldn't have to miss a 12 hour work day on Saturdays, but I am changing positions at work now, so I won't have to work Satudays anymore. The only time off work was going to be for the 4 twin sprint events, the 2 FUSA events, and the Daytona ROC which all together were still only going to total 2 weeks off work for the whole season. Now with Saturdays being an optional day for me, I can go to the track earlier if I want to under no loss of my normal weekly income.
Title: Re: Is the MW schedule a little crazy or is it jus
Post by: G 97 on May 01, 2003, 08:10:38 AM
CCS really did a good job of creating three separate regions that include over 95% of the same tracks.  Also notice how they are scheduled.  For example if I am planning on running in the MW Region and want to get some track time prior to my MW race weekend I, in several instances, can simply race in a few Great Plains races.  Such as Gateway in Sep and Oct.  Or if I am racing in the Great Lakes I can do a MW Blackhawk prior to my GL race weekend in Jul and Aug.  The net effect is that CCS is leveraging off of the same tracks, creating three separate regions that utilize the same tracks, and aligning the schedules in order to maximize entries.  A good business plan for them.  But very expensive for the racer.