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Title: Hustler Grenades
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on April 28, 2003, 03:41:16 AM
My team mate Joe and I sure didn't have the best of luck at Road America.  By 10:00 Sunday night, I had performed an autopsy on both bikes.  With my cylinder head turned upside down on the workbench, gasoline poured into the combustion chambers leaks out the intake ports.  The valves are maybe burnt, or more likely I tapped them on the pistons by overrevving on a downshift.
When Joe pulled off his carbs, the #1 intake port was full of aluminum.  We never went further than that, but my guess is that a valve head came clean off and destroyed the piston.  Expensive weekend...
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: MightyDuc Racing on April 28, 2003, 05:39:24 AM
That sucks...sorry to hear it. :(
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: Jeff on April 28, 2003, 06:23:09 AM
 :'(  waaaaaahhhhhh  :'(

 :-/ I was in about the same boat, but maybe a little more work...

Friday I was running good times and getting better until I started losing 2nd gear.  We pulled the motor on Fri night, drove back to Sussex (3hr round trip), replaced 2nd gear, and got most of it back together by 2:30am.  Finished getting the rest back together on Sat AM.

Ran 2 races on Sat just fine, then blew it up on Sunday....  Still shifts great!  But something decided it no longer wanted to be inside the case, so it punched its way out  :o

Topped out in 5th gear on the straight, just shifted to 6th and blowing a motor...  Pretty freaky, but at least it didn't spew, and I managed to remain in control until it stopped...

One thing which did kinda suck though was that the corner workers in turn 1 took about 3 minutes to get an extinguisher to put out the fire on it since they didn't have a bottle handy  ???  :-/ WTF is with that?!?!

Oh well, it makes my decisions much easier on whether to support 2 bikes or just one...

(and that whole waaaah thing was just in jest.  you know  it's done outta love  :-* )
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: MightyDuc Racing on April 28, 2003, 06:31:16 AM
You mean something other than a Duc can blow an engine?  I was told about a THOUSAND times that if I wasn't racing a Duc, I would never have had that problem.  Terribly sorry to hear about it Jeff...I know your pain.  Good luck getting everything back together.  Again, sorry to hear it, man. :(
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: Zippy on April 28, 2003, 07:02:09 AM
Sorry to hear about your motor(s).  You knew something was pretty wrong on Sunday, and even Saturday, didn't you?  I saw you shaking your head as you headed down the front straight, and also on Sat. coming out of three, where I was corner working.

Good luck to ya.
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: Jeff on April 28, 2003, 07:45:29 AM
QuoteSorry to hear about your motor(s).  You knew something was pretty wrong on Sunday, and even Saturday, didn't you?  I saw you shaking your head as you headed down the front straight, and also on Sat. coming out of three, where I was corner working.

Good luck to ya.

Yeah...  When I lost 2nd gear, and had to go through corners in 3rd, I was P1SSED, and was beating on the gas tank and shaking my head in frustration.  It was about that time that I wanted to install pedals  :)

On Sunday I had no indication until it lost all power and started violently shaking right about the start/finish line.

As for the motor, comparing it to a duc? well, I'm pretty sure it's something I induced in my sleep deprived stupor of trying to get it back together with one eye open.  Won't know for sure until I perform the autopsy.

As for the rest of the bike?  Well, it just became an addition to the RR fund which I should have this week...
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: Protein Filled on April 28, 2003, 09:12:36 AM
Hey K3, I see the sugar in the gas tank trick works well after all!!!

 ;D ;D ;D

At least know you know why everyone was blowing by you on the straights.


Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: Dawn on April 28, 2003, 03:57:22 PM
Chris:

Your race weekend just sucked in regards to you bikes. One positive though....  none of you guys crashed.  

That's a positive in my book.

Dawn   ;)
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: Chef on April 28, 2003, 04:27:42 PM
AND if i didnt learn but one thing from the HUSTLER CREW...
it's getting back on the track...

Chin up....!

and oh, think about how i coulda used that 2nd place gtu money, lost the shift lever!!!
well, it's a part of racing. i was truly glad not to fall, and for you guys (esp that other honda guy JEFF) NOT TO FALL!

gives us more determination to get back at em   (if theres room for any MORE)

hey, good thing we got alot more summer to make up for it!!!

Ike
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on April 28, 2003, 08:00:16 PM
QuoteHey K3, I see the sugar in the gas tank trick works well after all!!!

 ;D ;D ;D
QuoteThat's what I figured.  At least now I don't feel so bad about loosening up your head bolts at Daytona!
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: Protein Filled on April 29, 2003, 05:46:17 AM
 :o :o :o
Good one!

Well, I was just trying to get you some caramelized pistons for lunch! ;D
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: MightyDuc Racing on April 29, 2003, 07:15:10 AM
Man you guys are brutal! :o  Is this what happens when you turn expert? ;D
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: Decreasing_Dave on April 29, 2003, 10:00:18 AM
QuoteMan you guys are brutal! :o  Is this what happens when you turn expert? ;D

Yeah...this is why I stayed amatuer

 ;D
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on April 29, 2003, 10:08:26 AM
QuoteMan you guys are brutal! :o  Is this what happens when you turn expert? ;D
Oh no.  This was going on waaaay back in amateur when I was stealing all Edgar's regional championships. ;D  You see, Edgar is the guy everyone loves to hate.
Actually, he's just a fierce competitor and a fierce trash talker with a great sense of humor.  All his close competitors have hugely overblown rivalrys with him.  Makes it more fun that way!
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: MightyDuc Racing on April 29, 2003, 10:09:41 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: Protein Filled on April 29, 2003, 10:19:45 AM
Yeah, my racing strategy is to make as many enemies as possible during the weekend and then watch them crash as they try to pass me and I bump them.

 ;)
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on April 29, 2003, 05:58:47 PM
Yes, well...  Enemies, no problem for you Edgar.  Bumping?  At least you have the nads to bump guys bigger than you.  Still, it must really suck to have multiple 300lb hillbillys on vintage bikes splattering rubber all over the nose of your $30,000 SV1027 8).
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on April 29, 2003, 06:02:20 PM
Got Joe's motor apart tonight.  Three valves through a piston.  Bottom end seems like it can be saved, but the barrels and head are junk.
Dave called me today.  Seems he started up his bike at Tez's house this morning, revved it a few time, and dropped a valve.  So now we're three for three.  Shiznit!
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: Super Dave on April 29, 2003, 06:58:33 PM
Lord, I hope it wasn't the food we ate by you...because it was good.  

You guys using a similar oil or something?   I had a valve problem with my 2000 ZX6R race bike.  Was a bad sight.  I don't like hearing about it.
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: DRU2 on April 29, 2003, 09:45:43 PM
K3 GIVE ME A CALL TOMMORROW! IMPORTANT
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: Pit_Girl on April 30, 2003, 06:18:13 AM
QuoteDave called me today.  Seems he started up his bike at Tez's house this morning, revved it a few time, and dropped a valve.  So now we're three for three.  Shiznit!

this is just too ironic....  can someone say sabotage? j/k ::)  hope you guys get this all fixed.  :-/

good luck,
-jennifer
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: Super Dave on April 30, 2003, 07:09:21 AM
Nah, this is Murphy...

Murphy's Law...
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: Super Dave on April 30, 2003, 07:10:02 AM
QuoteYeah, my racing strategy is to make as many enemies as possible during the weekend and then watch them crash as they try to pass me and I bump them.

 ;)

You should be an expert and we can play.  
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on April 30, 2003, 07:38:30 AM
Quotethis is just too ironic....  can someone say sabotage? j/k ::)  hope you guys get this all fixed.  :-/

good luck,
-jennifer
More likely is tired equipment heavily stressed by the high speed of Road America.  We Hustlers are notorious for racing worn out equipment.  One man's junk is a Hustler spare part!  We try to make up in hard work and mechanical aptitude what we lack in funding, but that will only take you so far.  Sabotage?  No way.  
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: Protein Filled on April 30, 2003, 07:41:37 AM
Quote Sabotage?  No way.  

Are you 100% sure about that?  ;D
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on April 30, 2003, 07:43:59 AM
Don't push me Edgar.  You'll regret it... ;D
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: Jeff on April 30, 2003, 08:32:26 AM
QuoteNah, this is Murphy...

Murphy's Law...

Murphy's law was me selling my spare motor 4 days before exploding the one in the bike...
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on April 30, 2003, 11:49:57 AM
QuoteMurphy's law was me selling my spare motor 4 days before exploding the one in the bike...
"Jenny, I know I'm not the smartest fella..."
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on May 01, 2003, 02:42:36 AM
Joe has found a used (really used, like 17K miles) motor for his bike.  I'm still waiting for the machinist's autopsy report on my cylinder head.  Blackhawk looms...
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: Jeff on May 01, 2003, 06:09:53 AM
Quote"Jenny, I know I'm not the smartest fella..."

ROFLMAO! you did know my wife's name is Jennifer didn't you ;D
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: Eddie#200 on May 01, 2003, 08:39:58 AM
QuoteActually, he's just a fierce competitor and a fierce trash talker with a great sense of humor.  All his close competitors have hugely overblown rivalrys with him.  Makes it more fun that way!

That the same reason I think you so cool Chris.  Get that bike running for Blackhawk!   ;D
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: SliderPhoto on May 01, 2003, 09:09:49 AM
I don't know, things seem to go wrong around Edgar!  ::) Take this go-go-gadget mosquito killer for example:

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 :P

Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: EX#996 on May 01, 2003, 09:30:47 AM
LOL!!!

Imagine that!   A Buell spewing oil!  That NEVER happens.   ;D

My old Ford truck didn't even smoke that bad!

Dawn   ;D
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on May 01, 2003, 10:22:22 AM
QuoteROFLMAO! you did know my wife's name is Jennifer didn't you ;D
Actually, no.  But it IS more funny that way.  Life is like a box of valve shims.  You never have the ones you need...
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on May 01, 2003, 10:26:53 AM
QuoteI don't know, things seem to go wrong around Edgar!  ::) Take this go-go-gadget mosquito killer for example:



Edgar!!!  What did you do to that poor Buell?  This is starting to get out of hand, dude...
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on May 01, 2003, 10:29:50 AM
QuoteThat the same reason I think you so cool Chris.  Get that bike running for Blackhawk!   ;D
Oh yes, Gixxer Boy.  You have become my new Edgar.  (The old one ran away with his tail between his legs...)
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: Eddie#200 on May 01, 2003, 01:04:32 PM
QuoteOh yes, Gixxer Boy.  You have become my new Edgar.  (The old one ran away with his tail between his legs...)

LOL...  Remember my name is Ed too...  ;D

Don't try to run UL either there is another Ed there...
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: DRU2 on May 01, 2003, 03:12:48 PM
Ok this is getting out of hand!
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: Protein Filled on May 01, 2003, 06:31:47 PM
Oh Jack, that is funny!!! I was wondering what ever happened to that Buell and who it was that oiled the whole track!

Hey, it's that Nicaraguan juju, man! Don't mess with me...I'll make your motor blow  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: Jeff on May 02, 2003, 05:49:25 AM
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A bit less dramatic, but hey, mine caught on fire!  :o
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: Dawn on May 02, 2003, 08:08:35 AM
Jeff,

I saw the infamous puff of white smoke as you went down the front stretch.  We were happy to see you were able to get it stopped before turn one.

Dawn   :)
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: Jeff on May 02, 2003, 11:26:19 AM
QuoteJeff,
We were happy to see you were able to get it stopped before turn one.

hehe... you're not alone  ;D
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on May 04, 2003, 08:21:54 PM
It's not looking good.  There may not be any Hustlers at the next Blackhawk.
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: Dawn on May 05, 2003, 06:51:12 AM
QuoteIt's not looking good.  There may not be any Hustlers at the next Blackhawk.

 :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on May 05, 2003, 05:56:51 PM
So Joe found a high-milage used motor, and he'll let me run it.  My motor won't be ready.  My damn bike is slow already.  Do I run with Joe's motor?  Do I stay home and pout?  Do I kill Eddy Bingham in the bathroom and steal his Gixxer 750?  I'm so depressed.  I just don't know what to do.
There needs to be a third class in CCS.  Expert, Amateur, and Quick broke guys.
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: EX#996 on May 05, 2003, 08:11:50 PM
QuoteSo Joe found a high-milage used motor, and he'll let me run it.  My motor won't be ready.  My damn bike is slow already.  Do I run with Joe's motor?  Do I stay home and pout?  Do I kill Eddy Bingham in the bathroom and steal his Gixxer 750?  I'm so depressed.  I just don't know what to do.
There needs to be a third class in CCS.  Expert, Amateur, and Quick broke guys.

Chris - you better make it out.  I bought a bottle of Diet Rite just for you.   ;)

Dawn   ;D
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: Super Dave on May 06, 2003, 06:20:27 AM
QuoteSo Joe found a high-milage used motor, and he'll let me run it.  My motor won't be ready.  My damn bike is slow already.  Do I run with Joe's motor?  Do I stay home and pout?  Do I kill Eddy Bingham in the bathroom and steal his Gixxer 750?  I'm so depressed.  I just don't know what to do.
There needs to be a third class in CCS.  Expert, Amateur, and Quick broke guys.

Use the motor.  That would work.  Yours seemed to have a bigger problem.

Do you really want to have a Quick Broke class?  I think I'd be in it...  Let's go!
 8)
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: Eddie#200 on May 06, 2003, 06:27:42 AM
QuoteSo Joe found a high-milage used motor, and he'll let me run it.  My motor won't be ready.  My damn bike is slow already.  Do I run with Joe's motor?  Do I stay home and pout?  Do I kill Eddy Bingham in the bathroom and steal his Gixxer 750?  I'm so depressed.  I just don't know what to do.
There needs to be a third class in CCS.  Expert, Amateur, and Quick broke guys.

Let's see... I'm gunning for Rick and Roger, so if you pass me you will be doing GREAT! ;D

Dang it Chris I was hoping you woud have the bike together.  Other than staying home or giving you my bike how can I help? :-/
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on May 06, 2003, 10:45:24 AM
Quote Other than staying home or giving you my bike how can I help? :-/
I'm all for the you giving me your bike thing.  I need a Gixxer 7 bad.  Otherwise, just be your usual annoying self, and that will probably be all the insperation that i need... 8)
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: Eddie#200 on May 06, 2003, 11:18:15 AM
QuoteOtherwise, just be your usual annoying self, and that will probably be all the insperation that i need... 8)

For you buddy...consider it done... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on May 06, 2003, 09:27:04 PM
OK Eddie.  Just for you, I got the bike running.  I don't know how long the duct tape will hold in the rod bearings, but I'll be tuning up Thursday at Visionsports.  See you Saturday...
K3

Sadly, it looks like I will be the lone Hustler this weekend.
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: Eddie#200 on May 07, 2003, 06:03:55 AM
QuoteOK Eddie.  Just for you, I got the bike running.  I don't know how long the duct tape will hold in the rod bearings, but I'll be tuning up Thursday at Visionsports.  See you Saturday...
K3

Sadly, it looks like I will be the lone Hustler this weekend.

Duct tape and connecting rods?  Mabey you need to pait your bike Red/Green?  MN joke.... ;D ;D

Hmmm Lone Hustler?  Ok, paint it Hi Ho Silver?  ;D
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: Super Dave on May 07, 2003, 10:21:42 AM
Lone Hustler?  Nah, I think some of us are Hustlers at heart...so, never alone.  I count myself as one at heart...
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on May 07, 2003, 10:30:56 AM
NO NO NO!!!!  You've got it all wrong, Dave.  YOU'RE the GOD that the Hustlers pray to...
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: Super Dave on May 07, 2003, 10:46:04 AM
LOL!   :D
Title: Re: Hustler Grenades
Post by: Dawn on May 07, 2003, 10:52:51 AM
QuoteNO NO NO!!!!  You've got it all wrong, Dave.  YOU'RE the GOD that the Hustlers pray to...

 :-*   :-*   :-*   :-*   :-*   :-*   :-*


Dawn   ;D