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Motorcycle Racing => Wrenching => Topic started by: DEVINC on September 29, 2009, 02:38:27 PM

Title: Things to do with a MW SS bike
Post by: DEVINC on September 29, 2009, 02:38:27 PM
Just wondering if anyone has any suggestions on little things to do to my 06 r6 to make it perform better. I am definitely more focused on my riding, I was just wondering if anyone had any cool suggestions to keep me busy while we have time off from riding. (rotor lightening, ram air mods, etc.) .

Been bored waiting to race  :sleeping2:
Title: Re: Things to do with a MW SS bike
Post by: 2old2fat2slow on September 29, 2009, 03:56:43 PM
Shave weight and do some track days on the tracks you race at.
Title: Re: Things to do with a MW SS bike
Post by: DEVINC on September 29, 2009, 04:09:09 PM
shave weight on bike? haha. im actually pretty scrawny so i guess the bike would lose weight first, where from tho...?
Title: Re: Things to do with a MW SS bike
Post by: George_Linhart on September 29, 2009, 05:05:00 PM
If you are never going to put the bike back on the street some small amount of weight savings can be pretty easy.  Customize a race wire harness - elimiate all the connectors for stuff you don't need like a horn, turn signals and head-lights.  Look around the bike and remove all those extra brackets for the parts you took off.  Cut down the sub--frame or replace it (lw aluminum or carbon fiber).  Replace the stock battery with something much smaller and lighter.  I think you can get lightweight clutch baskets and plates to replace the heavier stock ones.

You can send your rear brake rotor cut or drilled - a number of people do this for a small fee.

Next steps get really expensive really fast, but, you can repalce a lot of stock nuts and bolts with aluminum and titanium ones.  Replace the stock axles with magnesium.  Get an aftermarket racing fairing stay.  Install a kit alternator - it should save about a pound of rotating weight so the bike will be lighter and rev faster.

Some guys get absolutely anal about going over every single inch of the bike and removing excess material in any place that it is not a stressed member.   

You can always go superbike and then lightweight wheels are legal and you can open the engine and lighten/polish the crank, get carillo (or titanium) rods.  While you have the cases split you could have the transmission gears drilled and lightened by a specialty shop.

I am sure I am forgetting some of the tricks but this should be enough to get you started.

George
Title: Re: Things to do with a MW SS bike
Post by: DEVINC on September 29, 2009, 06:02:42 PM
George,
Thanks. These are good ideas to get me started!   :thumb:
Title: Re: Things to do with a MW SS bike
Post by: Sobottka on September 29, 2009, 09:25:01 PM
slipper clutch mod.
Title: Re: Things to do with a MW SS bike
Post by: F2RGK on September 30, 2009, 12:16:08 AM
Quote from: DEVINC on September 29, 2009, 06:02:42 PM
George,
Thanks. These are good ideas to get me started!   :thumb:


Devin, don't listen too George....he's a banker!!!  LMAO!!  Of course he's going to tell you to lose weight...he sits behind a desk all day and figures who is credit worthy!!!  Shaaah.  Oh, he rides a Ducati too!  LOL!!!! 
Title: Re: Things to do with a MW SS bike
Post by: Super Dave on September 30, 2009, 07:02:31 AM
Replace the front brake lines.  Geometry is a key on bikes.  I won't go through my old set up on shock lengths and fork heights, but it makes a difference.  Save weight?  520 chain and sprockets are a start.  Find out what guys are using on R6's at your local track for gearing.  And bodywork is weight savings too.  If you're down south and you're gonna run WERA, make sure you can modify the wiring harness for the classes you might run.

Keep it simple.  Make it race/crash worthy, focus on getting it slowed down (brakes) and handling (geometry, correct spring rates [if you're a lightweight, the stock rear spring is way stiff], maybe replacing shock and fork work), and then ride the thing.  Find someone that can help you in your riding to cut your learning curve.  You need someone to tell you "no" on some things your trying so that you don't waste your time and money.
Title: Re: Things to do with a MW SS bike
Post by: DEVINC on September 30, 2009, 08:56:00 AM
good call Dave. lines and chain already have. Eric from GMD set me up nicely with springs in my forks. I still need to set up my rear shock and general geometry of the chassis has not been touched yet.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Things to do with a MW SS bike
Post by: Super Dave on September 30, 2009, 09:06:26 AM
Quote from: DEVINC on September 30, 2009, 08:56:00 AM
good call Dave. lines and chain already have. Eric from GMD set me up nicely with springs in my forks. I still need to set up my rear shock and general geometry of the chassis has not been touched yet.  :thumb:
How much do you weigh?  I think the stock rear spring is good for someone that weighs around 210#.  If you're under that, it keeps that back end way up and it never seems to feel like it bites well on the gas hard. 
Title: Re: Things to do with a MW SS bike
Post by: DEVINC on September 30, 2009, 09:12:22 AM
w/o gear... last time i checked about 140. So I would imagine it is too stiff. I try to work on my braking and when doing it "hard and late" it seems like the back end stands up too much to me. Maybe i'm just stabbing too hard rather than easing into it? btw, you really think that bone vitamin is good to take even if already taking a general multivitamin?
Title: Re: Things to do with a MW SS bike
Post by: Super Dave on September 30, 2009, 10:02:13 AM
Quote from: DEVINC on September 30, 2009, 09:12:22 AM
w/o gear... last time i checked about 140. So I would imagine it is too stiff. I try to work on my braking and when doing it "hard and late" it seems like the back end stands up too much to me.
Well, the spring can never sag like it should when you're on it.  So, it's always going to be in the top part of the shock's stroke.  That reduces your trail at that point, it moves the CG up and forward.  Yes, the back end should stand up as a result.  Gotta get it into the ball park.  Springs are good.


Quote from: DEVINC on September 30, 2009, 09:12:22 AMbtw, you really think that bone vitamin is good to take even if already taking a general multivitamin?
Good question.  I know I've taken some here and there just because I had some floating around.  We've given some of them to my wife's grandmother (93 now) to help her bones.  It has a lot of joint lubricating properties, so, sure, it would be a good addition to a multivitamin in my opinion.  I'm not a scientist, but that product was recommended to me by one. 
Title: Re: Things to do with a MW SS bike
Post by: skiandclimb on October 01, 2009, 10:15:58 AM
OK- I gotta ask....whats a Bone Vitamin?  My wife is 5ft nothing, and weighs 95 lbs.  She lives on Dr. Pepper, and I would like to see her, at a bare minimum, taking a good supplement as she hates drinking milk.
Title: Re: Things to do with a MW SS bike
Post by: roadracer162 on October 01, 2009, 12:03:43 PM
Seacoast Vitamins Maximum Bone Aid.
Title: Re: Things to do with a MW SS bike
Post by: skiandclimb on October 01, 2009, 12:48:32 PM
And this works well?  Bone density improvements and whatnot?
Title: Re: Things to do with a MW SS bike
Post by: DEVINC on October 01, 2009, 12:50:03 PM
I think I am going to take it anyways. It was like $14. I figure that on top of my cheap multivitamin can't hurt.
Title: Re: Things to do with a MW SS bike
Post by: Super Dave on October 01, 2009, 03:24:58 PM
Quote from: skiandclimb on October 01, 2009, 12:48:32 PM
And this works well?  Bone density improvements and whatnot?
The specific part that I took it for was the Microcrystalline Hydroxyapatite.  It's some kind of "catalyst" that can really reduce the knitting time of broken bones.  That was where my scientist friend came in.  I went to a doctor with a self inflicted race track broken hand, and two weeks later at a check up, the doctor said I was all good.  My scientist friend and I have recommended it to others when they have had broken bones.  Hard to say conclusively if it works, but, from my experience, it did reduce my down time.  Others have had similar remarks. 

Read how it's marketed at Seacoast.
http://www.seacoastvitamins.com/product_info.php?products_id=803
Good place to deal with.  I found the Microcrystalline Hydroxyapatite in other products, but it was in lower concentrations and at about five times the cost.  I've bought some other suppliments from them before.  Shipping has always been reasonable and quick too.  They were out of the bone suppliment once though too.