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Title: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: Over-ReActor on July 22, 2009, 09:19:14 PM
Hope this wasn't already posted. I've been blind with rage and I can't see straight.

The helmet law in Missouri was repealed by both houses. It was sent to the gov. He originally said he didn't have an opinion on it. Well he vetoed it.

My opinion on him is, fuck him and fuck the AMA too. Just keeping the issue alive so they can rack in more money the next time it comes up.

I walked door to door for this turn coat bitch ass ho, so he would get elected (not related to the helmet law) and he has to stick it up my booty?  Well screw him. What happened to freedom?  What could I really expect from a cow state that has no racetrack?

Fuck the AMA too for spending thousands in Jefferson city and not getting shit done. They suck too and I'm not giving them a dime.

I was just reminded of all this because I just ran into a state rep and she said she told me so. Well fuck her too.

If you can eat fatty cheese burgers and explode your heart, I should be able to crack my head open.
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: Ducmarc on July 22, 2009, 11:42:56 PM
did you bump your head
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: gntbldr on July 23, 2009, 12:39:10 AM
Quote from: Ducmarc on July 22, 2009, 11:42:56 PM
did you bump your head

sounds more like he wants to crack some senate skulls imo

:D



Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: Super Dave on July 23, 2009, 05:42:17 AM
Quote from: Over-ReActor on July 22, 2009, 09:19:14 PM
If you can eat fatty cheese burgers and explode your heart, I should be able to crack my head open.
LOL!

Well, yeah.  It's a funny way of attacking the problem of bad ideas, but I agree with you.

Freedom is freedom.  It's being continually thrown away.  Buy what you can now to protect your rights.
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: Russell2566 on July 23, 2009, 07:15:39 AM
So all this pissing in moaning is because the helmet law is still in place?

You a racer or some silly Harley rider who says he's not "free" until he can feel the wind in his thinning air on the hi-way. Wear a helmet and get over your self.
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: Cowboy 6 on July 23, 2009, 08:44:24 AM
Quote from: Russell2566 on July 23, 2009, 07:15:39 AM
So all this pissing in moaning is because the helmet law is still in place?

You a racer or some silly Harley rider who says he's not "free" until he can feel the wind in his thinning air on the hi-way. Wear a helmet and get over your self.

+1
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: 123user on July 23, 2009, 09:00:46 AM
I live in Missouri, and was kinda hoping it would go through... now granted,  I think if you don't have the sense to wear a helmet on a motorcycle, you're a genuine idiot... but there are a lot of people waiting on an organ transplant.  One idiot could save 4 or 5 people.

I agree with your rant on the AMA though.  A money wasting, serving POC... somehow they're not competant to run a race series but they are competant to represent me in the capital?  Gimme a break!  Didn't I just see where a former AMA chairman was arrested in Ohio for stealing $100K from the membership?
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: vale46 on July 23, 2009, 01:04:38 PM
Welcome to the new United Socialist of America. Thanks Barrack
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: benprobst on July 23, 2009, 03:25:56 PM
Quote from: 123user on July 23, 2009, 09:00:46 AM
I live in Missouri, and was kinda hoping it would go through... now granted,  I think if you don't have the sense to wear a helmet on a motorcycle, you're a genuine idiot... but there are a lot of people waiting on an organ transplant.  One idiot could save 4 or 5 people.

I agree with your rant on the AMA though.  A money wasting, serving POC... somehow they're not competant to run a race series but they are competant to represent me in the capital?  Gimme a break!  Didn't I just see where a former AMA chairman was arrested in Ohio for stealing $100K from the membership?

AMA and AMA pro racing dont have a damn thing do with each other. And yes they are capable of representing motorcycle riders in the capital. If you dont want to be represented then dont buy the membership. They have been doing it for a long time, and doing it pretty well all in all. Sure they have had their crooks and tards just like everyone else, but they have done a lot for those of us who ride their motorcyles.
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: benprobst on July 23, 2009, 03:31:46 PM
Quote from: vale46 on July 23, 2009, 01:04:38 PM
Welcome to the new United Socialist of America. Thanks Barrack


What exactly are you refering too? Just curious which part of this story is "socialisms" fault? Or was it Obama who caused this as sitting head of Missouri's government? maybe it was from in his senate seat? Do you mean how the law is now the exact same as it used to be? Ya know the one in place under those damn socialist republicans for the past 8 years!!!!  :wah: Ive heard so many ill informed people start yacking about "socialism" when it doesnt even begin to fit the subject matter, that im thoroughly convinced less than 10% of them even know what the fuck socialism is.
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: DEVINC on July 23, 2009, 04:11:13 PM
Quote from: vale46 on July 23, 2009, 01:04:38 PM
Welcome to the new United Socialist of America. Thanks Barrack


:err:   ?huh?
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: 123user on July 23, 2009, 05:37:44 PM
Quote from: benprobst on July 23, 2009, 03:25:56 PM
AMA and AMA pro racing dont have a damn thing do with each other. And yes they are capable of representing motorcycle riders in the capital. If you dont want to be represented then dont buy the membership. They have been doing it for a long time, and doing it pretty well all in all. Sure they have had their crooks and tards just like everyone else, but they have done a lot for those of us who ride their motorcyles.

They don't any more.  Almost everyone paying attention thought that the "real" AMA ran it terribly. The sale of AMA pro-racing to DMG was hailed by many as new era in US roadracing.  (Unfortunately, it seems that DMG is willing to apply the rules just as unevenly)  And AMA has had more than their fair share of shady characters in recent years... perhaps due to their close ties to politics and all that bribery... oops, I meant to say lobbying... yeah, that's what I meant to say!

Thankfully AHRMA doesn't require an AMA membership to race anymore... so I won't be renewing that.  I just wish I could get them to stop sending me that pathetic excuse for an advertisement... I mean magazine!

But yeah! WTF on the socialist america thing???  Somehow Obama's responsible for the helmet law not being repealed?  Somebody's been watching too much Fox News!
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: GSXR RACER MIKE on July 23, 2009, 10:15:43 PM
I have to agree, I don't believe that the very real transition to Socialism that Obama is rapidly implementing has anything to do with the helmet law not being repealed.



And for those who don't know what Socialism is about....

Socialism is a system of society or group living in which there is no private property - a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state. (the transition to this is happening right now - banking, industry, health care, etc are all examples)

(per Marxist theory)
Socialism is the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism. (Socialism is a stepping stone, communism is the eventual destination)
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: Over-ReActor on July 23, 2009, 10:17:59 PM
Quote from: Russell2566 on July 23, 2009, 07:15:39 AM
So all this pissing in moaning is because the helmet law is still in place?

You a racer or some silly Harley rider who says he's not "free" until he can feel the wind in his thinning air on the hi-way. Wear a helmet and get over your self.
Well to state the obvious, I'm not pissing and moaning because they repealed the helmet law, genius.

I ride both types of bikes, does that really have anything to do with the issue?  You are as obtuse as the people writing the laws.

Let me give you a little insight. My mom thinks all motorcycles should be outlawed. What will happen when 60 senators feel the same way?  Will you just get over it?  I think not, because that will effect your novice ass.  You will cry like a bitch. You will scream about freedom and the pursuit of happiness. And my mom will tell you to get over yourself, punk.  
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: Over-ReActor on July 23, 2009, 10:20:17 PM
Quote from: vale46 on July 23, 2009, 01:04:38 PM
Welcome to the new United Socialist of America. Thanks Barrack
try to keep up son, it is a state issue. But for your info, Obama was from Illinois and they are helmet free. Please try to make sense or plead drunk in the morning.
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: Over-ReActor on July 23, 2009, 10:35:33 PM
Quote from: GSXR RACER MIKE on July 23, 2009, 10:15:43 PM
I have to agree, I don't believe that the very real transition to Socialism that Obama is rapidly implementing has anything to do with the helmet law not being repealed.



And for those who don't know what Socialism is about....

Socialism is a system of society or group living in which there is no private property - a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state. (the transition to this is happening right now - banking, industry, health care,  etc are all examples)

(per Marxist theory)
Socialism is the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism. (Socialism is a stepping stone, communism is the eventual destination)
would this socialism of which you speak include public schools, national parks, public roads, tax free churches, fire departments, police departments, the military, museums, zoos, some hospitals, orphanages, public transportation, sewers, drinkng water, damns, canals, airports, tax credited race tracks, stadiums, monuments, etc?  Did O do all that? 

Could redistribution of wealth also include, taxing the people and then awarding big gov contracts to defense contractors?  Like Reagen did?  No one spent a larger % of the GDP than the clown, but no one is complaing about his deficit spending.

Btw, how much wealth did old Ronnie re-distribute on the war on drugs?  Another republican war on ideals that can never be won, but just costs a lot. Go look it up while I do a fat ass line.

And try to stay on topic in the future.
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: Over-ReActor on July 23, 2009, 10:43:30 PM
Quote from: Cowboy 6 on July 23, 2009, 08:44:24 AM
+1
and WTF are you +1ing about? You didn't have a real thought to add?  You just wanted to plagerize the guy?  At least he typed. Type mfer or get the f out the way. You should be shown the blue flag.
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: Ducmarc on July 23, 2009, 11:43:43 PM
socialist or not i wonder when the new bean counters in the new health care system start adding the cost of health care for racers ,sky divers motorcyclist helmeted or not ,divers private pilots, thrillbilles and every other extreme sport that cost the health care system enough to exclude them . look  around you now x boxes virtual games when i was a kid we played foot ball in the street hunted the everglades street raced everything climbed to the tallest trees jumped off bridges we would scraped cap gun caps for powder to blow bolts apart make our own fire crackers generaly screwed around . now kids sit in the playstation world and smoke dope . i wonder if that's they want a bunch of slugs in debt up to our ass to the company store.   just keep shoveling fella's, keep shoveling
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: Over-ReActor on July 24, 2009, 01:36:02 AM
Quote from: Ducmarc on July 23, 2009, 11:43:43 PM
socialist or not i wonder when the new bean counters in the new health care system start adding the cost of health care for racers ,sky divers motorcyclist helmeted or not ,divers private pilots, thrillbilles and every other extreme sport that cost the health care system enough to exclude them . look  around you now x boxes virtual games when i was a kid we played foot ball in the street hunted the everglades street raced everything climbed to the tallest trees jumped off bridges we would scraped cap gun caps for powder to blow bolts apart make our own fire crackers generaly screwed around . now kids sit in the playstation world and smoke dope . i wonder if that's they want a bunch of slugs in debt up to our ass to the company store.   just keep shoveling fella's, keep shoveling
um, the current bean counters exclude or charge a premium for all those already. Obama's proposal would not deny coverage to anyone. Sorry.
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: Ducmarc on July 24, 2009, 07:29:31 PM
Obama,s proposal is not necessarily what congress is going to give him either. believe me i have a lot to gain from his health plan i'm self employed handicapped and pay $400 a month for insurance i can't change because i have a preexsisting condition.but i'm still up in the air as to whether or not the rest of the country should pay for my foolishness.
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: Over-ReActor on July 24, 2009, 08:44:26 PM
Quote from: Ducmarc on July 24, 2009, 07:29:31 PM
Obama,s proposal is not necessarily what congress is going to give him either. believe me i have a lot to gain from his health plan i'm self employed handicapped and pay $400 a month for insurance i can't change because i have a preexsisting condition.but i'm still up in the air as to whether or not the rest of the country should pay for my foolishness.
I/we pay for other's foolishness all the time.  Fat people and children for instance.  Enjoy a slice of the pie, buddy.
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: chaplain220 on July 25, 2009, 04:54:43 PM
You, Over reactor, may not care for the opinions of these guys who have posted on your rant thread, but several of the guys you f-bombed have given everything in service to their country and communities.  They are also friends, and obviously they are practicing self-control in not lashing out at your childlike tirade, but since the moderator hasnt shut this down as an insult to everyone who breaks loose a rear tire and swaps leather in T1, here's a couple things you should know.  To risk friendships over an event that is clearly beyond your control, especially something that is such a waste of our legislatures time, as the need to compel people to wear a shielding device over their head when they are riding a motorcycle, because they are too prideful, arrogant and selfish to make the decision themselves, is foolish indeed.  And to then link the helmet law to a conspiracy to outlaw motorcycles????  That's just your immaturity and lack of understanding of how the political system interacts with commerce. 

It's also okay to disagree with President Obama, but I wont call him a clown or goofball, or any other disrespectful insult that liberals often apply to other political figures which I have greatly respected.  I believe President Obama is a weak leader that has made many poor decisions, with very questionable links to corrupt individuals and organizations, including his recent lash at police officers that now find themselves caught up in his personal friendships and political bias. 

A racer becomes a fast racer because he stops making mistakes and gets smooth, but a fast racer does not become a hero in roadracing until he learns how to demonstrate good sportsmanship and perseverance, even when things dont go his way.  You could learn a lot from this. This is a place where our roadracing family shares, discusses, and at times disagrees, but we dont treat each other like crap.  My anger and lack of self control almost cost me my marriage many years back, I hope you gain control of yours. 
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: GSXR RACER MIKE on July 25, 2009, 09:12:51 PM
Hey chaplain220, here's what I said in a thread Over-Reactor started about 3 weeks after he registered on this site back in January 2009, it was titled "Help me with my Karma points, morons!", it was in the Shooting the bull section.

Quote from: GSXR RACER MIKE on January 28, 2009, 01:23:27 AM
I think you'll find that here on the CCS forum the whole drama queen thing doesn't go over quite as well as it may on the 'other' board. No matter how valient your intentions I believe that's the reason for the negative karma your recieving.

I think it's kinda funny and sad at the same time how things haven't changed with him and that Drama Queen record he's playing has just kept skipping and endlessly spews out
DRAMA....DRAMA....DRAMA....DRAMA....DRAMA....
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: plasticweld on July 27, 2009, 12:09:48 AM
My guess is that he does not race and does no more than lurk here; another tough guy behind the keyboard who has never done anything. Ask this 17 year old punk what type of bike he races, where he races and what CCS events or Wera events he rides. How about his rider number so we can go over and meet him at his pit. he  just stirs the pot with his ignorance. Guys here actually responded to what he had to say out of normal racer respect. He has not shown that same kind of respect to the real racers here, he is just a troll without a life
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: mikendzel on July 27, 2009, 09:33:58 AM
Quote from: plasticweld on July 27, 2009, 12:09:48 AM
My guess is that he does not race and does no more than lurk here; another tough guy behind the keyboard who has never done anything. Ask this 17 year old punk what type of bike he races, where he races and what CCS events or Wera events he rides. How about his rider number so we can go over and meet him at his pit. he  just stirs the pot with his ignorance. Guys here actually responded to what he had to say out of normal racer respect. He has not shown that same kind of respect to the real racers here, he is just a troll without a life


Exactly.  His M.O. is to post outrageous stuff when he is drunk.  WERA eventually banned him from their forum for it.
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: plasticweld on July 27, 2009, 11:58:32 AM
Mike did you wreck  this weekend I thought I heard someone say you did a little off road riding but not sure if it was you or another Mike  I did not see you Sunday,
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: Burt Munro on July 27, 2009, 01:10:00 PM
Quote from: GSXR RACER MIKE on July 25, 2009, 09:12:51 PM
Hey chaplain220, here's what I said in a thread Over-Reactor started about 3 weeks after he registered on this site back in January 2009, it was titled "Help me with my Karma points, morons!", it was in the Shooting the bull section.

I think it's kinda funny and sad at the same time how things haven't changed with him and that Drama Queen record he's playing has just kept skipping and endlessly spews out
DRAMA....DRAMA....DRAMA....DRAMA....DRAMA....

So, does that make me a Drama Queen too, Mike?   :kicknuts:    :biggrin:

(I can almost predict your anticipated reply, word for word)   :spank:
Just remember, the most obvious response isn't always as funny!

Hey, you gonna be able to at least come out and visit at Blackhawk this summer?  I remember you saying the employment thing had changed for you.     :ahhh:

We had a lot of fun this last weekend........   hope you can make it out sometime soon!


And as far as Nixon's veto of the helmet law legislation, I never expected him to ever sign
it.  Although I thought he might just take the cowards way out and let it drag out and finally become law anyway without him taking any action on it due to the time limit rule.

For me personally,  living in Missouri, it wouldn't have changed my lifestyle.  The bad incident I had 30 years ago this month made me a believer in how much good a helmet can provide. 

I just haven't made up my mind as to whether this is one those situations where the stupid people of the world deserve the benefit of the rest of us paying their bills for them and/or their kids for the rest of their lives because they made a stupid decision - or combination of decisions.  Part of me still believes this country was founded on the 'freedom of choice' doctrine.  And the other part of me says, don't expect the rest of us to support you for life because you're too stupid to be trusted with that freedom or privilege!!!
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: Over-ReActor on July 27, 2009, 02:00:31 PM
Quote from: chaplain220 on July 25, 2009, 04:54:43 PM
You, Over reactor, may not care for the opinions of these guys who have posted on your rant thread, but several of the guys you f-bombed have given everything in service to their country and communities.  They are also friends, and obviously they are practicing self-control in not lashing out at your childlike tirade, but since the moderator hasnt shut this down as an insult to everyone who breaks loose a rear tire and swaps leather in T1, here's a couple things you should know.  To risk friendships over an event that is clearly beyond your control, especially something that is such a waste of our legislatures time, as the need to compel people to wear a shielding device over their head when they are riding a motorcycle, because they are too prideful, arrogant and selfish to make the decision themselves, is foolish indeed.  And to then link the helmet law to a conspiracy to outlaw motorcycles????  That's just your immaturity and lack of understanding of how the political system interacts with commerce. 

It's also okay to disagree with President Obama, but I wont call him a clown or goofball, or any other disrespectful insult that liberals often apply to other political figures which I have greatly respected.  I believe President Obama is a weak leader that has made many poor decisions, with very questionable links to corrupt individuals and organizations, including his recent lash at police officers that now find themselves caught up in his personal friendships and political bias. 

A racer becomes a fast racer because he stops making mistakes and gets smooth, but a fast racer does not become a hero in roadracing until he learns how to demonstrate good sportsmanship and perseverance, even when things dont go his way.  You could learn a lot from this. This is a place where our roadracing family shares, discusses, and at times disagrees, but we dont treat each other like crap.  My anger and lack of self control almost cost me my marriage many years back, I hope you gain control of yours. 
Wow, I know my ranting is hard to read sometimes, but some people get some of it sometimes.

Since you are calm, cool and collective, could you name the "several" people that responded and I f-bombed or was it one that didn't really respond with anything and my response, to anyone without a stick up their arse, would take it as a joke?

Did I reall tie the helmet law to a conspiracy to ban motorcycles?  Or did I use it as an example for something that you might care about losing, something that would effect you and then you would care?  You don't care about my helmet law being repealed so, you dismiss it out of hand. You think I'm childish. What if it was something "you" wanted?  Get it now?

You don't think our legislature had time for this?  They were elected by the people, for the people. I'm the people, buddy. They also have time to take in AMA and Abate money. I wonder why they don't repeal it. Do you think it might kill the cash cow.

And remember this, all you "real racers", repealing a helmet law won't mean you can't wear a helmet at the track. I actually think it will stiill be mandatory in superbike and optimal in ss.

Btw, give me positive Karma, morons! Still cracks me up.
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: mikendzel on July 27, 2009, 04:52:33 PM
Quote from: plasticweld on July 27, 2009, 11:58:32 AM
Mike did you wreck  this weekend I thought I heard someone say you did a little off road riding but not sure if it was you or another Mike  I did not see you Sunday,

Yeah, it was me.  I high sided coming out of Turn 5 and had a pretty fun ride.  I was thinking that I could get my bike back together and ride the last 2 races on Sunday, but some serious swelling ensued Saturday night and I had to sit Sunday out.  I'm getting my wrist X-rayed after work, I have abrasions/bruising on both knees, right shoulder, both hips and I cut my right foot open.  Also I think I messed something up in the right side of my right foot.

The bike needs a couple pieces for my right rear set, a new brake lever, clip on tube, throttle tube/assembly, exhaust can, wind screen, and either a lot of work to repair the thrashed bodywork or just plain new bodywork.  My suit (I was wearing my freshly repaired blue one), helmet, gloves and boots are lost causes. 

I love that track though!!  If I was physically able to pull the clutch lever in, I would have gone back for more!!  :thumb:

How did you and Russ do???  Did you like the track?
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: plasticweld on July 27, 2009, 05:35:21 PM


Mike I hope nothing is broken, you do sound like your banged up pretty good, Let me know if you want any help with the body work, I would be glad to give you a body set at cost if it will help. I should have looked for you in the pits and just brought it back home with me that way you I could have brought it with me to Summit.

I liked the track by the end of Thursday night I was so disgusted with the poor management in the in field I was hoping we would never come back. I am convinced that the track was designed by a racer and it is managed by someone who has never been to a race, The surface was great, the coarse challenging. I can only wonder if they will actually make the changes, I would have rather seen one less club house for the members and a few more showers, more electric and a less Nazi approach to how the manage the pits they try and take a lot of fun out of racing.. If nothing else I gained a new appreciation for some of the other tracks we use.

Russ after only one session was a second faster than I was, he was down in the 13s by the end of the day... what a rotten punk , after I fixed his bike and got him new tires he has the nerve to pass me
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: Over-ReActor on July 27, 2009, 08:46:46 PM
Quote from: plasticweld on July 27, 2009, 12:09:48 AM
My guess is that he does not race and does no more than lurk here; another tough guy behind the keyboard who has never done anything. Ask this 17 year old punk what type of bike he races, where he races and what CCS events or Wera events he rides. How about his rider number so we can go over and meet him at his pit. he  just stirs the pot with his ignorance. Guys here actually responded to what he had to say out of normal racer respect. He has not shown that same kind of respect to the real racers here, he is just a troll without a life

Hi Buddy,
I will respond to you out of real racer respect.  I have raced in real races.  My first race was on my 40th birthday at Gateway.  Was happy to take 3rd place.  I also did a few other club races with another organization (not wera).

I decided I was too slow and old to have any real fun at it, so I concentrated all my time on trackdays.  I just couldn't get enough practice while actually racing.  I would never call myself fast, like the real racers, but I wouldn't call myself slow any longer.  Some people actually think I'm decent now, I still disagree.

I know I have never did anything in the grand scheme of things on the racetrack, like the real racers, have you?

I have ridden across Europe, which was a pretty good time, but nothing that would impress a real racer like Rossi.  I rode for 2 weeks across the most wicked parts of Mexico, but a real racer like Spies isn't going to care.  I rode with Freddie Spenser and Kevin Schwantz, they weren't really impressed with my style.  I did a trackday with a guy that has won more than one AMA Superbike race this year.  He is a real racer, he blew my doors off, but it was fun pitting with him.  He was humble and made it fun.  Another Superbike racer was there and he tried to teach me some things.  He realized it was futile and gave up.  He was a real racer.  He would never consider me one no matter what.  It was fun though.

You have to be careful how you use the term real racers.  Some think the back markers in the DMG are not real racers.

For the curious, I've been on this bbs longer that most.  I registered in Jan 2004 under my real name.  I save it for when I have real racing things to say.

Good luck
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: GSXR RACER MIKE on July 27, 2009, 09:59:38 PM
Quote from: Burt Munro on July 27, 2009, 01:10:00 PMHey, you gonna be able to at least come out and visit at Blackhawk this summer?  I remember you saying the employment thing had changed for you.     :ahhh:

We had a lot of fun this last weekend........   hope you can make it out sometime soon!

The part time business I started with my brother a year ago is now full time for both of us. The only thing stopping me from coming out to race is the lack of Health Insurance due to taking the big step to be self-employed and voluntarily (to the shock of the management) leaving my secure job of 21 years just 3 weeks ago (where I was 5th in seniority at a company of 230+ employees). I plan on getting Health Insurance really soon and hopefully make the last 2 events at BFR, I'd love to go to Barber and Mid-Ohio as well, but I doubt that's going to happen even if I get the Insurance. If the Insurance thing has a waiting period or whatever then I will at least show up to spectate and show my support by heckling you from the sidelines (but I really want to race at least 1 event this season).  :thumb:
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: plasticweld on July 28, 2009, 08:51:40 AM


Quote from: Over-ReActor on July 27, 2009, 08:46:46 PM

For the curious, I've been on this bbs longer that most.  I registered in Jan 2004 under my real name.  I save it for when I have real racing things to say.

Good luck quote]

Your a coward and a phony tell your lies some place else
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: mikendzel on July 28, 2009, 09:06:49 AM
Quote from: plasticweld on July 27, 2009, 05:35:21 PM

Mike I hope nothing is broken, you do sound like your banged up pretty good, Let me know if you want any help with the body work, I would be glad to give you a body set at cost if it will help. I should have looked for you in the pits and just brought it back home with me that way you I could have brought it with me to Summit.

I liked the track by the end of Thursday night I was so disgusted with the poor management in the in field I was hoping we would never come back. I am convinced that the track was designed by a racer and it is managed by someone who has never been to a race, The surface was great, the coarse challenging. I can only wonder if they will actually make the changes, I would have rather seen one less club house for the members and a few more showers, more electric and a less Nazi approach to how the manage the pits they try and take a lot of fun out of racing.. If nothing else I gained a new appreciation for some of the other tracks we use.

Russ after only one session was a second faster than I was, he was down in the 13s by the end of the day… what a rotten punk , after I fixed his bike and got him new tires he has the nerve to pass me



That Russ is fast!  You guys looked good in practice Saturday morning!

I went to the hospital last night, and it turns out I did break one of the bones in my wrist.  Looks like the one bone that has a poor blood supply and takes forever to heal....  :banghead:  This will most likely be the end of my season, but I'll try to make it out to Summit to watch!

How did you and Russ do in the races??
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: plasticweld on July 28, 2009, 10:07:42 AM
Mike sorry about the wrist.. been there done that  Jon Doodson from our pits suffering the same injury he is hoping to race at Summit not sure it is doctor recommended but he told  me he was just going to take it easy,

Russ and I both finished middle of the pack, I had some great guys to race with in the F 40 both days and had a blast on Sunday when I finally thought I got around someone I had been chasing the whole race it turned out the checkered flag had already been thrown, I did not know that until turn 2 Russ I think did a 6th place for his best finish not sure which race I only raced the GTO and the F40 both days  he raced the GTU and came 9th I think the other races I am not sure about Joe Cotterino did real well this weekend putting us all to shame, the only cool think I got to do with Joe is drag race him down to turn one and come up inside of him until he slammed the door shut into the corner, fun while it lasted but I was not going to hold hime up for more than a corner.

How did you do for lap times and finishes, I hope your crash was not in the first race
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: mikendzel on July 28, 2009, 10:37:21 AM
Unfortunately it was it the first race!  I was hoping to at least see how well I was running because I really felt good on the bike, but the timing system interference thing happened... 

Does John have a cast?  I thought I saw a splint, and hoping that's all I get!  I need to play in my band in order to pay for all of this racing nonsense!
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: Over-ReActor on July 28, 2009, 10:40:35 AM
Plasticman,

Your last post was a little out of wack to quote, but you know the one I'm referring to. Do you think something in my post was a lie?  Where does the coward part come in?  Many people know me, just because you don't, means nothing. I'd venture to say a couple of the moderators know of me well.

Tell me again, what did I write that was phony?
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: plasticweld on July 28, 2009, 12:57:43 PM
Mike , John is in just a splint and still working but slowed down, he is a carpenter. The track surface was great and it did not take long to get used to, to bad you did not get to spend a little more time on the track. Maybe I will see you at Summit I sent you a pm back about some body work I have.  I guess you did not need the R6 fuel pump part and managed to fix yours

Quote from: plasticweld on July 28, 2009, 08:51:40 AM


Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: Cowboy 6 on July 28, 2009, 01:30:30 PM
Quote from: Over-ReActor on July 28, 2009, 10:40:35 AM
Where does the coward part come in?

I feel safe to say that the coward portion comes in when you type things like this:

Quote from: Over-ReActor on July 23, 2009, 10:43:30 PM
and WTF are you +1ing about? You didn't have a real thought to add?  You just wanted to plagerize the guy?  At least he typed. Type mfer or get the f out the way. You should be shown the blue flag.

You rant about Plasticweld not knowing you. Well, you don't know who you are dealing with either. Some mutual respect and tact goes a long way.
Just to answer your childish harangue, my "+1" was typed in respect of the other poster getting it right on. Why is it a problem to agree with someone? Should I portend to have a "better" answer or comment?

Wether you like it or not, CCS is a family oriented organization. I find it offensive when persons like yourself spew filth and obscenity on our forum. I wish I could allow my daughter free reign to view the CCS forum but people like you prevent that. It is the weak mind that has to resort to foul language to make a point.

BTW, it's spelled "plagiarize" not "plagerize"
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: Cowboy 6 on July 28, 2009, 01:32:02 PM
Quote from: mikendzel on July 28, 2009, 10:37:21 AM
Does John have a cast?  I thought I saw a splint, and hoping that's all I get!  I need to play in my band in order to pay for all of this racing nonsense!

Yeah, John is just in a splint. I hope that's the same for you. I'm sure you'll get around it somehow!
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: mikendzel on July 28, 2009, 02:30:20 PM
Quote from: Cowboy 6 on July 28, 2009, 01:32:02 PM
Yeah, John is just in a splint. I hope that's the same for you. I'm sure you'll get around it somehow!

I hope so!

BTW, don't feed the bears.
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: plasticweld on July 28, 2009, 03:30:04 PM
Joe how did you do in the last race? Cool to watch you battle it out with the other guys, sorry I did not hang around to see you finish
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: funsizeracing on July 28, 2009, 04:03:18 PM
I should have joined a sorority instead of road racing.  Less drama :rollseyes:
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: benprobst on July 28, 2009, 05:43:34 PM
Quote from: funsizeracing on July 28, 2009, 04:03:18 PM
I should have joined a sorority instead of road racing.  Less drama :rollseyes:


What are you doing out of the kitchen woman?
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: gonecrazy on July 28, 2009, 08:00:41 PM
Quote from: funsizeracing on July 28, 2009, 04:03:18 PM
I should have joined a sorority instead of road racing.  Less drama :rollseyes:

yea should you be making cakes and stuff so you can gain enough weight to race asra
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: Over-ReActor on July 28, 2009, 09:18:50 PM
Quote from: Cowboy 6 on July 28, 2009, 01:30:30 PM
I feel safe to say that the coward portion comes in when you type things like this:

You rant about Plasticweld not knowing you. Well, you don't know who you are dealing with either. Some mutual respect and tact goes a long way.
Just to answer your childish harangue, my "+1" was typed in respect of the other poster getting it right on. Why is it a problem to agree with someone? Should I portend to have a "better" answer or comment?

Wether you like it or not, CCS is a family oriented organization. I find it offensive when persons like yourself spew filth and obscenity on our forum. I wish I could allow my daughter free reign to view the CCS forum but people like you prevent that. It is the weak mind that has to resort to foul language to make a point.

BTW, it's spelled "plagiarize" not "plagerize"
Dear Ranchero

Since you obviously have a spell checker or maybe you are just a gifted speller, I don't know, maybe you have a dictionary. Because for the life of me, hold on while I take a sip........, I still don't know how you came up with your definition of coward. That's just plain dumb.

I know what +1 ing means. I graduated first day Internet. Do you know what a joke is?

You're offended by my language (or is it my spelling and bad puntuation that really pissed you off), I'm offended when kids can't afford a proper education, no wait, I'm offended when they can't afford food and healthcare.

I wonder if you have ever said a bad word in your life?  Bet you have.  But, it the future I will try to watch my language so your child doesn't read the same things they hear and use on the playground.

Damn Internet, hope porn never pops up.

You say I don't know who I'm dealing with. Plastic also wanted my number, so "people" could visit my pits. Are these hints of physical violence?  Is this the family atmosphere and the dollar in the cookie jar for every cuss word uttered values that you are trying to extend to the general population?

Well, fuck that shit!
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: Cowboy 6 on July 28, 2009, 09:58:43 PM
Quote from: plasticweld on July 28, 2009, 03:30:04 PM
Joe how did you do in the last race? Cool to watch you battle it out with the other guys, sorry I did not hang around to see you finish
Managed Second. A 250 GP bike got by me in the bulb on lap 6, passed him again in T1. Forgot to shut the inside door in the bulb on the last lap.... got me again!!
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: Over-ReActor on July 28, 2009, 10:59:13 PM
http://forums.13x.com/showthread.php?p=1761722&highlight=Rich+fast#post1761722

http://forums.13x.com/showthread.php?t=141946

Yea, I used to post under Even Keel too until I mf'ed Evel Kneivel and got banned because some wera boys got upset. I did call Evel a bank robber, a drunk, a wife beater, a substance abuser and  a shill game player. Go figure. When you are running a business you have to cator to the shill players.
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: Gap Junkie on July 29, 2009, 12:14:20 AM
Quote from: Over-ReActor on July 28, 2009, 09:18:50 PM
Dear Ranchero

Since you obviously have a spell checker or maybe you are just a gifted speller, I don't know, maybe you have a dictionary. Because for the life of me, hold on while I take a sip........, I still don't know how you came up with your definition of coward. That's just plain dumb.

I know what +1 ing means. I graduated first day Internet. Do you know what a joke is?

You're offended by my language (or is it my spelling and bad puntuation that really pissed you off), I'm offended when kids can't afford a proper education, no wait, I'm offended when they can't afford food and healthcare.

I wonder if you have ever said a bad word in your life?  Bet you have.  But, it the future I will try to watch my language so your child doesn't read the same things they hear and use on the playground.

Damn Internet, hope porn never pops up.

You say I don't know who I'm dealing with. Plastic also wanted my number, so "people" could visit my pits. Are these hints of physical violence?  Is this the family atmosphere and the dollar in the cookie jar for every cuss word uttered values that you are trying to extend to the general population?

Well, fuck that shit!

You are really are quite anti-social with a foul mouth.

Glad you aren't racing. You're probably just as sloppy in your riding as you are with the English language.
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: plasticweld on July 29, 2009, 09:35:02 AM

Hey Bernie welcome to the site, funny that your first post is to some 17 year old wanabe rider who does not even have the courage to sign his name to his outrageous lies. Oh wait a minute that's because he is also a coward ..

Minus the one bozo who started this thread there are a lot of great guys here who race I am sure some of them are in your back yard, I did check out the link you sent, nice track!
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: funsizeracing on July 29, 2009, 09:55:52 AM
Quote from: benprobst on July 28, 2009, 05:43:34 PM

What are you doing out of the kitchen woman?

Knitting a sweater.

Quote from: gonecrazy on July 28, 2009, 08:00:41 PM
yea should you be making cakes and stuff so you can gain enough weight to race asra

That's why I drink beer.

Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: Cowboy 6 on July 29, 2009, 02:50:39 PM
Quote from: funsizeracing on July 29, 2009, 09:55:52 AM
Knitting a sweater.

Hmmm... Black an yellow would match my leathers.... I wear a Large   :thumb:
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: funsizeracing on July 29, 2009, 03:32:31 PM
Quote from: Cowboy 6 on July 29, 2009, 02:50:39 PM
Hmmm... Black an yellow would match my leathers.... I wear a Large   :thumb:

So far, I've only made cat sweaters.  Do you have a cat?
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: Cowboy 6 on July 29, 2009, 06:05:24 PM
Quote from: funsizeracing on July 29, 2009, 03:32:31 PM
So far, I've only made cat sweaters.  Do you have a cat?

LOL! Yes I do.
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: Over-ReActor on July 29, 2009, 07:46:26 PM
Quote from: plasticweld on July 29, 2009, 09:35:02 AM
Hey Bernie welcome to the site, funny that your first post is to some 17 year old wanabe rider who does not even have the courage to sign his name to his outrageous lies. Oh wait a minute that’s because he is also a coward ..

Minus the one bozo who started this thread there are a lot of great guys here who race I am sure some of them are in your back yard, I did check out the link you sent, nice track!

You're just not very good at this are you?

You make a general accusation. I ask what I lied about. You make the same accusation, because you know I'll call you out on it, so you ignore my question. I even supply some proof. Yet you still ignore it.

You can't rattle me like your paint job, son.

Btw, Your spite ratio is a lot worse than mine and I'm trying to be a dick. What happened to you?
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: Over-ReActor on July 29, 2009, 09:38:37 PM
Quote from: Gap Junkie on July 29, 2009, 12:14:20 AM
You are really are quite anti-social with a foul mouth.

Glad you aren't racing. You're probably just as sloppy in your riding as you are with the English language.
Hi Junkie

Glad you could fucking join us. So, you fucking joined just to correspond with me? That is fucking great. I hope you fucking enjoy it . 

Sorry about my cussing, but I'm not into all that fag shit. I'm a George Bush guy. I like to drop bombs and kill people. Yes I said it. I don't think if you cut the fuck word out of your English language that it will make you a better person, do you?

Turn your blind eye towards the world if you wish. I fucking won't. This was just a mini rant written especially for you. Print it out and I'll autograph it when your buddies come to beat me up in my pits.
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: Over-ReActor on July 29, 2009, 09:54:23 PM
Hey Cowboy

Maybe you missed my post. How did you even relate what you wrote to being a coward. Go back a few posts and try to comprehend. This isn't that hard if you just try.

Then again, I was trained on the wera.com bbs. Where the fast thinkers and real racers hang out.
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: Over-ReActor on July 29, 2009, 11:53:58 PM
Do any of you really fast "real racer" want to place a side bet on my "real racer"?  I thought not.
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: Noidly1 on July 30, 2009, 01:30:02 AM
Get a Life...
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: catman on July 30, 2009, 01:42:02 AM
DAYMN   OR , Ease on Down the road- this group,unlike the wera forum, is historically much friendlier.
I once mouthed off on the wera forum about some unfinished  suspension work I GOT AT SPEEDWERKS(ALL BETTER NOW)  and got this sort of response, yet not banned.
I still cannot believe I deserved the seemingly pre-judged  responses, even posted  the original email I sent to Steve at the shop  asking if they could complete the  fork change and a good ballpark setup ,since I am a dog trainer who just likes to ride. Noone was interested in 1 word of the mistakes that were made including the wrong insert to the attack trips I wanted installed(correctly) I went against the grain to help the unknowing peeps.
They likely do better work on their own.. I spent a bunch towards them also previously nomo 4 sure.
That was to alert other beginner folks, to help them make a good decision when spending their hard earned $.
Your discussion here seems futile and unnecessary . You will not likely get banned as easily  from here quite yet, so let it ride. Do yourself a favor  :cheers:

Anger management helps us all,convert now!  
HEY FUNSIZE  Do you make those cat sweaters in an 2x?
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: catman on July 30, 2009, 01:48:53 AM
Quote from: DR ENERGYSMART on July 30, 2009, 01:42:02 AM
DAYMN   OR , Ease on Down the road- this group,unlike the wera forum, is historically much friendlier.
I once mouthed off on the wera forum about some unfinished  suspension work I GOT AT SPEEDWERKS(ALL BETTER NOW)  and got this sort of response, yet not banned.
I still cannot believe I deserved the seemingly pre-judged  responses, even posted  the original email I sent to Steve at the shop  asking if they could complete the  fork change and a good ballpark setup ,since I am a dog trainer who just likes to ride. Noone was interested in 1 word of the mistakes that were made including the wrong insert to the attack trips I wanted installed(correctly) I went against the grain to help the unknowing peeps that may wander over . The front wheel was all but locked up as I dragged it over towards my trailer- Steve said it would loosen- Yea I brought the Brembo MC to them, but the front wheel lockup was obviously just a bad purchase I made in the wera classifieds
They likely do better work on their own A Bikes .. I spent a bunch towards them also previously nomo 4 sure.
That was to alert other beginner folks, to help them make a good decision when spending their hard earned $.
Your discussion here seems futile and unnecessary . You will not likely get banned as easily  from here quite yet, so let it ride. Do yourself a favor  :cheers:

Anger management helps us all,convert now!  
HEY FUNSIZE  Do you make those cat sweaters in an 2x?

Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: Admin on July 30, 2009, 01:54:52 AM
Enough is enough. Thread locked until further review.
Title: Re: I was ripped off and I'm pissed!
Post by: spyderchick on July 30, 2009, 08:47:24 AM
I apologize for not catching this sooner, we've been pretty busy. For the record, ORA is on a little forum vacation.

Jeff will decide whether to make that permanent.