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Motorcycle Racing => Motorcycle Talk => Topic started by: cbr600_mj on March 24, 2009, 10:13:11 AM

Title: Why did Suzuki discontinue the SV1000s?
Post by: cbr600_mj on March 24, 2009, 10:13:11 AM
Does anyone know why Suzuki discontinued the SV1000s?

I have been looking on the web and get varoius answers.

Thanks!
MJ
Title: Re: Why did Suzuki discontinue the SV1000s?
Post by: tzracer on March 24, 2009, 12:30:45 PM
Didn't sell well enough?

In the current economy I would be too surprised to see manufacturers reduce model lines to only better selling models.
Title: Re: Why did Suzuki discontinue the SV1000s?
Post by: cbr600_mj on March 24, 2009, 01:03:15 PM
My thoughs were the same. Economy and sales of the bike.
Just kinda bummed since my street ride is the SV1000s.

Title: Re: Why did Suzuki discontinue the SV1000s?
Post by: 123user on March 24, 2009, 01:07:22 PM
I'm still trying to figure out why they discontinued the TL1000S... its awesome!  My TL is awesomer than the SV1000, especially with the TL1000R motor I transplanted in it.
Title: Re: Why did Suzuki discontinue the SV1000s?
Post by: Super Dave on March 24, 2009, 02:03:42 PM
Poor sales.  Might be able yet to find some of the 2007's yet on showroom floors.  Even with generous Suzuki contingency during that time.

Great bike.  Surprised me.  Weighed a lot less than the TL, but made less power. 
Title: Re: Why did Suzuki discontinue the SV1000s?
Post by: cbr600_mj on March 24, 2009, 02:49:12 PM
Do any of you guys race the SV1000s in CCS??
If yes, what classes do you run them in and what were some of the key mods you needed to do before you raced it. I was thinking of turning it into my race bike.
Title: Re: Why did Suzuki discontinue the SV1000s?
Post by: Super Dave on March 24, 2009, 03:08:30 PM
Quote from: cbr600_mj on March 24, 2009, 02:49:12 PM
Do any of you guys race the SV1000s in CCS??
If yes, what classes do you run them in and what were some of the key mods you needed to do before you raced it. I was thinking of turning it into my race bike.
I was one of the few that ever did.

M4 pipe, Hyperpro front springs, 15wt fork oil, fork caps flush with upper triple clamp, Hyperpro rear shock (set up at stock length), steel braided front brake lines, Factory Pro ignition advance key.  520 chain and sprockets.

My fastest time at Blackhawk was a 1:12.7 that single year I raced it.  I raced Supertwins, HWSB, HWSS I think, and ULGP.  It's not as fast as a 600 at all.  Well, an older 600.  Handled very well.

At the end of the year, I had Jim Rashid tune the fuel injection with a Factory Pro Teka unit and I added fork tube extenders to the forks and ran them flush too.  Extra 17mm of front end height, actually.  I still have a set of those left from the bike. 

The wheels and rear rotor are from the previous generation GSXR's.  The front rotors are pretty much unique to the SV1000.

I think the first year SV1000S had better fork internals, but the later models had other advantages.  The fork internals are garbage, but, honestly, I had little to complain about with my fork set up. 
Title: Re: Why did Suzuki discontinue the SV1000s?
Post by: cbr600_mj on March 24, 2009, 03:15:10 PM
Thanks for all the good info Super Dave!
Title: Re: Why did Suzuki discontinue the SV1000s?
Post by: 123user on March 24, 2009, 03:28:44 PM
Actually, the SV1000S weighed about the same as TL1000s, but it didn't borrow its rear suspension concept from a 1972 MG-midget either, which made it "feel" lighter.  Plus, the ECU got way better... it ran much more smoothly.  I don't know if it harder to ride a TLS slow or fast.

Really, the TLR was much more the turd than the TLS... it made about 10 more HP, but weighed 35lbs more.  I'm still mad a Suzuki for discontinuing the TL-series and building the V-Strom... what an ugly, useless, over-powered piece of crap.  

I think that if Suzuki hadn't pulled the plug on Yosh's TLR superbike program, that there would have been some real competition for the RC51... and this whole [ridiculous] 1000cc I4 superbike platform could have been avoided.
Title: Re: Why did Suzuki discontinue the SV1000s?
Post by: SV88 on April 18, 2009, 06:42:06 PM
Wasn't the TL a disaster of a bike - starting with the rotary knob rear shock and going thru a ton of gear lash.  Clearly a step towards the SV1000k.  Ironically, I went almost as fast on my stock SV1 @ TWS than on the race R6... But then I'm slow anyway.

The SV1k is a great street bike except for the small range.  It's too heavy and underpowered to be a credible race bike.  Many SV1k's were endurance raced...
Title: Re: Why did Suzuki discontinue the SV1000s?
Post by: Super Dave on April 18, 2009, 06:55:35 PM
Only reason SV1000's were endurance raced was because of MotoST.  That's not many. 

I've been on some TL's.  Not really a disaster.  Most of the RC51's I've been on were worse and had more issues with a non rotary shock.

As for the SV1000 being a credible race bike, it was fine.  It was what it was.  I made money with it.  Other bikes were more money too, GSXR's, etc.  Even a Buell XB costs more but has less power new compared to the last SV1000.  And the XB is credible, isn't it?
Title: Re: Why did Suzuki discontinue the SV1000s?
Post by: benprobst on April 18, 2009, 07:20:18 PM
Quote from: Super Dave on April 18, 2009, 06:55:35 PM
  And the XB is credible, isn't it?


The more you tell yourself that the more true it is!! right? right? RIIGHTT?



:biggrin:
Title: Re: Why did Suzuki discontinue the SV1000s?
Post by: Super Dave on April 19, 2009, 08:27:19 AM
Quote from: benprobst on April 18, 2009, 07:20:18 PM
The more you tell yourself that the more true it is!! right? right? RIIGHTT?

:biggrin:
Well, I raced it two weekends, and I got two checks from Harley-Davidson using belt drive yet.  It's a really good chassis.  I'm not terribly brand loyal, but I do understand what works better for me and what doesn't.