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Title: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: Jack_Brock on October 14, 2007, 11:13:31 PM
It killed me to not be there!  I hope everybody had fun and made it home safe.  Anyway, I'm jones'n for some racin', so let me hear about all of it.
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: funsizeracing on October 14, 2007, 11:34:32 PM
My toes are prune-y.
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: Rich on October 14, 2007, 11:39:18 PM
A mirror image of last year.  It was crappy on Sat, and miserable on Sun.  A little bit of dry racing on Sat, all rain on Sun.  Minimal (if any) crashes on Sat, lots on Sun.  Nobody really got hurt that I know of though.
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: steve p on October 15, 2007, 08:15:28 AM
although weather was crappy, it was some of the best
racing i've watched all year.  Beca was on fire and diced
it up in nearly every race she was in, winning most of them I think.  All the racing was really close for the most
part and my favorite ride of the weekend came from
watching Jason Farrell.  He started from pit road after
the second wave of amatures left and still made it up to
somewhere around 10th in the experts in only 8 laps,
quite impressive to watch.
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: BrianC636 on October 15, 2007, 09:55:47 AM
It rained, it sucked, and my friend went to the hospital with several things torn and fractured in his sholder.  No surgery though.

Did I mention that it rained?


I hate the rain.

Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: Jack_Brock on October 15, 2007, 10:01:34 AM
F@#$ rain!  That sucks and I'm sorry to hear that.  What were the temps like?  That was the nail in the coffin for me last year, it was damn near frezzing drizzle. 

BTW, Becca's been on fire for awhile.
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: funsizeracing on October 15, 2007, 12:03:40 PM
Thanks.
Dave Tyrell really deserves the applause, he did awesome in the rain! :thumb:

Is there anyone who raced on Sunday who didn't crash? It seemed like everyone went down at some point.
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: wolf44 on October 15, 2007, 12:28:51 PM
I decided to toss myself with my new suit, new gloves, and new bike down the track into turn 1...tons of fun :thumb:  I even rolled around the parking lot with the new suit on to try to break newness off of the suit...that sh!t don't work.
:banghead:
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: tstruyk on October 15, 2007, 01:06:35 PM
was it raining when you rolled around in the parking lot?  Alot of the demagnatizing of fresh leather/paint has to do with "like condtions". 

Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: wolf44 on October 15, 2007, 01:36:33 PM
yeah it was all wet and nasty...just like that time.....oh wait wrong forum
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: Jack_Brock on October 15, 2007, 01:37:14 PM
Becca, Anthony told me you crashed, picked up your bike and continued-that is hard core!  I bet half the guys at the races can't pick up their own bikes.

Dan, that RC is jinxed, sell it quick and go back to SV!  BTW-I'm about 90% I'll be riding LW next year-great class and it sounds like there may be decent LW grids next year.
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: funsizeracing on October 15, 2007, 01:43:57 PM
Quote from: Jack_Brock on October 15, 2007, 01:37:14 PM
Becca, Anthony told me you crashed, picked up your bike and continued-that is hard core!  I bet half the guys at the races can't pick up their own bikes.

Dan, that RC is jinxed, sell it quick and go back to SV!  BTW-I'm about 90% I'll be riding LW next year-great class and it sounds like there may be decent LW grids next year.

Oh yeah! :boink:

It's really just my fear of worms that got the bike back on the track. Seriously, I'm terrified of them.  All that mud, I know they were out there.
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: tstruyk on October 15, 2007, 03:03:48 PM
QuoteBecca, Anthony told me you crashed, picked up your bike and continued-that is hard core!  I bet half the guys at the races can't pick up their own bikes.

she did that Topeka too...  :cheers:

Quotegreat class and it sounds like there may be decent LW grids next year.

STL gang was giving it some serious thought at GIR this weekend.  I agree, LW class shoud be picking up nicely in the GP.

QuoteIt's really just my fear of worms that got the bike back on the track. Seriously, I'm terrified of them.

So THAAAAAAATs what you where doing after you fell down at HPT last year in the rain.  You werent pissed off jumping up and down... you were worm stompin!! 

Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: mwsportsimaging on October 15, 2007, 04:09:26 PM
Quote from: funsizeracing on October 15, 2007, 12:03:40 PM
Thanks.
Dave Tyrell really deserves the applause, he did awesome in the rain! :thumb:

Thanks Becka, but 1 win and 2 crashes shows I've got a lot to learn.  I'm starting to find white plate speed, but I'm still making yellow plate decisions.  Thanks to everyone who helped put the bike back together!
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: APP_Racing on October 15, 2007, 06:35:10 PM
Glad everyone had fun and came home safe.  I now know that I need to carry a bag of worms with me on the bike.  Bring them out when Rebecca tries to make a pass.

Personally I am terrified of fast pink bikes that fly by me in the turns.  I am seeking help but....it just keeps going threw my head.

Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: steve p on October 15, 2007, 07:37:57 PM
Quote from: Jack_Brock on October 15, 2007, 10:01:34 AM

BTW, Becca's been on fire for awhile.
Sorry, haven't really watched the lw classes but at MAM
it is pretty easy to watch in the grand stands.  It was
some great racing.  Temps were ok, 55-65.  It was kinda
like HPT in April during the team challenge and gt races.
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: Rich on October 15, 2007, 08:23:28 PM
Quote from: Jack_Brock on October 15, 2007, 01:37:14 PM
 BTW-I'm about 90% I'll be riding LW next year-great class and it sounds like there may be decent LW grids next year.

Hmmmm.....I'm told that there will be a big LW grid next year....Clayton is promising 8 from Ducati Omaha himself......if that really happens...I may be back as well.
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: Jack_Brock on October 15, 2007, 08:36:20 PM
Quote from: Rich on October 15, 2007, 08:23:28 PM
Hmmmm.....I'm told that there will be a big LW grid next year....Clayton is promising 8 from Ducati Omaha himself......if that really happens...I may be back as well.

Crap!  I was hoping to buy all your old race parts cheap.

Anyway, do it!  You know its fun and more importantly, affordable.
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: Rich on October 15, 2007, 09:33:16 PM
Quote from: Jack_Brock on October 15, 2007, 08:36:20 PM
Crap!  I was hoping to buy all your old race parts cheap.

Anyway, do it!  You know its fun and more importantly, affordable.

Clayton said eight people.....I told him when I get eight certified phone calls or emails.....I'll put the R6 on the auction block and buy another SV.
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: limelight on October 15, 2007, 10:25:08 PM
I waited around all day Sunday for my Supertwins race only to have it cancelled due to weather.  I didn't know a race could be cancelled do to weather.   We raced in strong winds and hail at HPT with out even a delay.
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: RMGSXR124 on October 15, 2007, 10:29:41 PM
Maybe I should rethink selling the SV?

That sucks Richard. One more race/class they've taken away from you. :finger:
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: r1owner on October 15, 2007, 10:56:57 PM
Quote from: Jack_Brock on October 15, 2007, 01:37:14 PM
Becca, Anthony told me you crashed, picked up your bike and continued-that is hard core!  I bet half the guys at the races can't pick up their own bikes.


Yeah, but who gave her the lift to get back on it?
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: benprobst on October 15, 2007, 11:15:53 PM
Quote from: r1owner on October 15, 2007, 10:56:57 PM
Yeah, but who gave her the lift to get back on it?

Thats what I was thinking,

"man she sure was lucky to crash in the only corner in the whole damn country that has complimentary step stools"
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: funsizeracing on October 16, 2007, 08:22:50 AM
Quote from: benprobst on October 15, 2007, 11:15:53 PM
Thats what I was thinking,

"man she sure was lucky to crash in the only corner in the whole damn country that has complimentary step stools"

:lmao:
Thanks Ben!
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: wolf44 on October 16, 2007, 09:01:25 AM
Quote from: limelight on October 15, 2007, 10:25:08 PM
I waited around all day Sunday for my Supertwins race only to have it cancelled due to weather.  I didn't know a race could be cancelled do to weather.   We raced in strong winds and hail at HPT with out even a delay.
I decided to leave before the SB races, kind of glad  I did now seeing as the canceled the supertwins race
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: funsizeracing on October 16, 2007, 09:47:37 AM
With all the lightning during the races I'm surprised they didn't cancel more races.  We've got to convince Dean to schedule that last race somewhere nice... like Hawaii.
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: mwsportsimaging on October 16, 2007, 11:43:59 AM
I'll vote for Hawaii
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: J Farrell / Speed Tech Motorsp on October 16, 2007, 11:51:27 AM
My weekend! Ha both ups & downs. Well not literally down like some other mud mosters!
This was my first trip to MAM and quite honestly I had mixed feelings about this track. It seems they built that place in the middle of a swamp. Although in the pooring rain there was only one spot on the track which really flooded by the pit road the traction was pretty good. The surface was pretty bumpy which made for some softening the compression damping for a smoother ride.
I like the layout of the track. It was pretty easy for me to figure out the flow to have.
As for the CCS affliate Track Addix I thought Dean did a pretty good job running the show. The riders meeting was nice to have in a building and seemed more friendly than the regular CCS riders meeting.

My racing events:
Well my weekend started off pretty bad I guess. I find out there is no electricity so we went out & bought a generator from Menards for $300. Works nice! Now I don't have to worry about having power at any track anymore! Then I only ran 2 legs of practice since the only rear rain tire I had was the used one I came with and everyone was out of rains! I had a pretty good start to the weekend since my first practice was wet & I was the fastest of all the riders who practiced & I only did 8 laps ever! Then for lunch it dried up after we drove cars around the course for 45min while sweeping puddles off the corner apexes.
After lunch my mechanic Alan was getting tires mounted and was returning on my brand new, I mean brand new scooter and he & another guy collided while rounding a van in the parking lot. The scooter was pretty well damaged on the whole right side. All the bodywork was busted.  :wah:
We had an hour of practice before the races started at 3:00. I decided to take advantage of the open practice & used up all my available time up to 2:50pm. Then in 10 minutes we had to change rims for new tires that were already on the warmers. We just barely pulled that off as I was trying to get my gear back on to make the warm up lap. As I took off on the warm up lap (last) I notice the fuel light flick on while just starting to go down the front straight. DAMN! Rookie mistake I haven't done in years! FORGOT GAS!!  So I fly around the track trying to get my mechanics attention for gas. I stopped the bike in the pits to fill it up with fuel. We managed to get-r-done in time for the 3 board to still be up & I couldn't go up to my grid spot. I had to start from the pits. Don't forget this is a Kawasaki $2000 win race! Hhmmmm..... how can I still win? I don't think everyone else will crash right? Well I still got to try. So after the experts made there way to turn 3 the amatuers were released. Then after a 3 more second wait I was let go from the pits! Time to ride like a freak. I managed to pass all the way up to 10th place expert while learning the track. Brian Hall my teammate won by the front straight.

Next Saturday race ULSS. Another $2000 Kawasaki payout race! I had the race in the bag before it started. It went as planned got a good start from the 3rd row was 3rd in turn 1 against 1000cc guys. I pass them both on the brakes into turn 5. I was smoking guys there all weekend. I took over the lead for 3 laps and pulled a small comfortable gap on 2nd place. Then more bad luck stikes!!!
My bike is sputtering all the way down the front staight on the 3rd lap. I go through T4 and while hard on the gas the bike sputters and I run wide off the race track at over 100mph in the swampy mud grass! I pulled it back on and the bike was dying. I get passed back to 6th I belive and I'm 30 seconds behind the leader now. I come to believe its my quickshifter acting up so I reach down & yank the wires off the thing. The bike comes alive but & have a 30 second deficit with mud on my tires. I manage in 4 1/2 laps to repass everyone to 2nd place my only 3 or 4 seconds! DAMN!! I just lost $1250 over a faulty quickshifter!

Sunday was just as fun with better results. It was raining all day so i decided to skip all practice and wait to race only 2 Kawasaki payout races. First race was very insteresting. I got another classic holeshot of mine and led from the 3rd row into turn one. I come around after the first lap to see the tower giving me the meatball flag for an apparent jump start! In 13 years of racing I have NEVER jumped a start & I know for fact I did not jump that start! Man was I pissed. Jason Braun was right behind me and decided to take over the lead since I already have a deficit. He was moving pretty fast and I was sliding around trying to stay with him. I was right behind him when he tucked to front end in Turn 6. So still in the lead I came in for an unneccassary penalty. I got the hell out of the pits as fast as I could to find myself in 6th or 7th. I rode my ass off sliding everywhere almost highsiding 3 times to try to catch up. I was so pissed I had to ride so hard to win that I showed my aggression with the tower with one of these :finger:. I know I didn't jump the start and I had to ride even harder to try to win my $2000!! Well I passed the everso fast rain riding Rob Olivia on the last lap and never looked back. I won by 3-4 seconds. Close win but too close for comfort!\

The last race of the day MWSB I lead from start to finish  with ease in the rain. It was raining hard and lightning started coming down. That was kind of fun!
We almost lost our canopy right after the race while packing up. A wind came through that slid our canopy over about 15ft while 4 guys where hanging on it!
The hardest parts of my whole MAM experience was the drive home. We drove through the craziest rain storm ever.
And Yes once again all you non beleivers: The little red Nissan with now 247,000 miles on it pulled all my shit there & back at 70-80mph up and down those nasty hills! Biggest thanks go out to the little red truck that could! I also want to thank my mechanic Alan was as great help all weekend!
Sorry to The Track Addix officials for flipping the bird to them over and honestly wrong call.
Dean & his crew put on a great weekend despite the weather conditions.

How was your weekend!
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: Jack_Brock on October 16, 2007, 12:37:03 PM
Now that was a race report!
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: JBraun on October 16, 2007, 03:12:04 PM
Quote from: J Farrell / Speed Tech Motorsp on October 16, 2007, 11:51:27 AM
My weekend! Ha both ups & downs....

Jason Braun was right behind me and decided to take over the lead since I already have a deficit. He was moving pretty fast and I was sliding around trying to stay with him. I was right behind him when he tucked to front end in Turn 6.

:banghead: Yeah, it was a $2000 mistake for sure. That one still hurts. :banghead:

I was hoping to redeem myself in MWSB, but I didn't get the start I wanted. Brian was going really fast and it took me four laps to get around him. By that time you had a bit of a lead.
It's really too bad that TrackAddix decided to shorten the races. If we would have run the full 8 laps, we might have had a good battle.

Great riding this weekend!
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: mx558 on October 16, 2007, 04:31:35 PM
Nice job Steve P on kickin some ass all weekend, I'll say high to all the nice college girls I'll be supporting in Daytona for you.
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: steve p on October 16, 2007, 08:51:38 PM
Thanks.  It was great to see some familiar faces there.
Farrell, Denow, Chris fry, and Eric Rodriguez.  sorry for
any spelling errors.  Despite the weather, I had a great
time.  Good luck to everyone in Daytona, be safe.  Ed,
I knew I could count on you to support the young
college women.  Look forward to next year going back.
Thanks to Dean and all the Track Addix crew they all did
a great job.  And a huge thanks to all the volunteers who
stood out there in those conditions so we could race.
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: goldwing70 on October 17, 2007, 09:17:20 AM
Looks like lots of interest in the LW class for next year.   Looking forward to chasing the rest of you in the expert class as a white plate myself next year.  Hope I don't have any problems getting a white plate due to my lack of yearly points.

I have a first gen SV frame, swingarm, and superbike motor for someone who wants to build an SV racer for next year!  Email me for details.
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: Rich on October 17, 2007, 08:12:46 PM
So.....would you be one of the eight people Clayton promised me?  Come on, where are the other seven!!

Quote from: goldwing70 on October 17, 2007, 09:17:20 AM
Looks like lots of interest in the LW class for next year.   Looking forward to chasing the rest of you in the expert class as a white plate myself next year.  Hope I don't have any problems getting a white plate due to my lack of yearly points.

I have a first gen SV frame, swingarm, and superbike motor for someone who wants to build an SV racer for next year!  Email me for details.
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: goldwing70 on October 17, 2007, 09:08:20 PM
Counting you Rich, I can think of 2 others, not necessarily in expert class.  We'll have to wait for Clayton to chime in.
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: Jack_Brock on October 18, 2007, 01:07:17 PM
Quote from: goldwing70 on October 17, 2007, 09:17:20 AM
Hope I don't have any problems getting a white plate due to my lack of yearly points.

I have a first gen SV frame, swingarm, and superbike motor for someone who wants to build an SV racer for next year!  Email me for details.

If GW70 is Shun, you will have no problem getting the upgrade.  I've seen you ride and you are fast and controlled(i.e. safe).  If there is any hesitation on the part of CCS, I can vouch for you and your abilities.

It looks like I'm picking up a Gen. 1 streetbike which I might race prep, do you have any used raceparts(I want to keep it SS for now) that you would make a deal on?  You can PM on that.

BTW, if GW70 isn't Shun, sorry.
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: Ducati23 on October 18, 2007, 02:42:17 PM
Finished 2nd in F40 Ex and won GTU Ex  8), waited all day for SuperTwins even though I had the championship clinched already  :thumb: only for the race to be canceled. I wonder if TA will credit us for next season. Like RWoten I was hoping to get one more race (& $500 Ducati bucks)in but it didn't happen due to weather. I would have raced it anyway. It was wet most of the day at Heartland on Monday too. I like to ride in rain so it didn't bother me at all. 

I don't know why Rich doubts we'll have enough for LW next season.  Rich, Shun, Anthony, Becka, Kevin C & me make 6 already.

We just picked up a 02 900SS for someone yesterday. Dave T is getting a 05 1000SS this week for next season. We have two SV's and a Ninja 650R available at our shop. We'll have 8 experts or more before too long. A better question is will Rich actually be able to ride?

Thanks to my friend Super Dave for spotting me some fuel at Heartland on Monday!


 
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: Super Dave on October 18, 2007, 07:37:20 PM
Quote from: Ducati23 on October 18, 2007, 02:42:17 PM
Thanks to my friend Super Dave for spotting me some fuel at Heartland on Monday!
Yes, that will help in the track day contingency department...LOL!
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: limelight on October 18, 2007, 10:44:00 PM
I would love to race expert LW with you all but being a Honda dealer my only competitive option from Honda is an F2.  But the F2 is only legal in LW40.
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: Jack_Brock on October 18, 2007, 11:21:30 PM
Quote from: limelight on October 18, 2007, 10:44:00 PM
I would love to race expert LW with you all but being a Honda dealer my only competitive option from Honda is an F2.  But the F2 is only legal in LW40.

2 ideas here:

1.  A mildly built Hawk should be competitive against a SS SV, and we all run SS SVs even in the SB & GP glasses.

2.  Since the SV didn't come with full bodywork, you can run whatever you want on them.  I've seen both RC51 and 600RR Bodywork on SVs, so you could mask its identity.  Obviously, you wouldn't want to put it in the middle of the showroom. 

Hopefully 1 of these ideas is viable, we'd love to have you.
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: wolf44 on October 19, 2007, 09:07:10 AM
Quote from: Jack_Brock on October 18, 2007, 01:07:17 PM
If GW70 is Shun, you will have no problem getting the upgrade.  I've seen you ride and you are fast and controlled(i.e. safe).  If there is any hesitation on the part of CCS, I can vouch for you and your abilities.

It looks like I'm picking up a Gen. 1 streetbike which I might race prep, do you have any used raceparts(I want to keep it SS for now) that you would make a deal on?  You can PM on that.

BTW, if GW70 isn't Shun, sorry.
Get ahold of Benny Probst, he's probably got a lot of spare parts for his sv he might sell
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: goldwing70 on October 19, 2007, 11:27:31 AM
Quote from: Jack_Brock on October 18, 2007, 01:07:17 PM
If GW70 is Shun, you will have no problem getting the upgrade.  I've seen you ride and you are fast and controlled(i.e. safe).  If there is any hesitation on the part of CCS, I can vouch for you and your abilities.

It looks like I'm picking up a Gen. 1 streetbike which I might race prep, do you have any used raceparts(I want to keep it SS for now) that you would make a deal on?  You can PM on that.

BTW, if GW70 isn't Shun, sorry.

Yup, GW70 is me.  Thanks for the support!  Winning amateur races was fun but I'm going to have alot more fun chasing the current LW experts
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: funsizeracing on October 19, 2007, 01:56:51 PM
It sounds like we're going to have a lot of fun racing next season!  I'm totally excited about all the LW's coming out :thumb: Cant wait!
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: Jack_Brock on October 19, 2007, 06:17:49 PM
I'm sorry I ever left :biggrin:

The guy that bought my old SV contacted me because he got hurt and will be selling the bike.  I already committed to buy another bike, so I'm out.  Anyway, If you see a SV advertised by Josh Rubin, its a solid one. 
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: APP_Racing on October 19, 2007, 07:38:07 PM
Good to see you all coming back.  It is a very fun class and with a few more entries the racing will be even closer.  We had several finish line decisions this year that were, well, in the 100's and 1000's of seconds at them line.  Look forward to all.

If someone is building a bike and needs any spares, give a call, I might have something laying around.
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: jarelj on October 19, 2007, 10:40:46 PM
LW should be full in both EX and AM next year (GP region).  In addition to the EX entries mentioned above, I know a lot of AM newbies planning on LW next year as well.  I'll be back racing again after missing most of this season due to the starting grid melee at the Memorial day races at MAM this spring.  I'll be racing a 900 Monster in LW next year.  Bruce M will be back on his SV in AM.  Dave T just bought a 1000SS and will be in AM for one more year.  Jay H is buying a LW bike to race his 2nd season.  Dan B is buying a LW bike to start his racing endeavors next year.  Chad D is coming back after a year off, probably in LW again.  Trent G ditto.  So 5 of the 7 mentioned there are all people who were not active in LW this year but are planning to be out there next year.  Sounds like it will be a FUN year in 2008 in LW!  :cheers:
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: howlieboy on October 20, 2007, 01:09:23 AM
Richard,

The Hawk was the best racebike every produced, IMO.   How many other racebikes do you know of that were competitive for 10 years?  It was my first racebike and I loved it....  Bring it back and win on it and you might even convince me to buy one again!!  Ah, the good ole days when you could run a set of tires for 4 weekends. 

Take care,
Kurt.
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: Rich on October 20, 2007, 06:35:09 PM
Quote from: howlieboy on October 20, 2007, 01:09:23 AM
  Ah, the good ole days when you could run a set of tires for 4 weekends. 

Take care,
Kurt.

Did I say I was getting another SV?


Just changed my mind.

WTB: Honda Hawk. Pref race ready.

Richard I know the GP region doesn't have Thunderbike anymore, but at the MW events the F2 is Thunderbike legal. That class seems to have as many SVs as it does Buells. 
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: limelight on October 20, 2007, 07:17:05 PM
This would be a whole lot easier if I could just race the F2 in the other LW classes besides LW40. 

Is there a Hawk GT out there race ready for sale or would I have to start from scratch??  I swore after the F2, never again.
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: Jack_Brock on October 20, 2007, 07:53:45 PM
John Richmond had a ton of hawk stuff, but I'm not sure if he still does.  He works for Mid America Powersports in Wichita which is a Honda dealer, so maybe you know him or at least the dealership.  The hawk stuff was his personally.  Anyway, if you have any interest, I can contact him or you could probably get him at the dealership most times.  Also, you could put out a feeler on the wera board(I've seen quite a few hawks ready to go on there over the past few years).  It looks like there is still a hawk forum that is pretty active also: http://www.hawkgtforum.com/  Anyway, I would think you could find one ready to go with a little looking.  Good luck!
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: backMARKr on October 20, 2007, 08:53:16 PM
http://forums.13x.com/showthread.php?t=149489&page=2&highlight=hawk+gt

hope this helps....
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: Rich on October 20, 2007, 09:11:01 PM
I believe Greg did a lot with Hawks back in the day, as did Kurt and Dean. (D2)  They could probably give you lots of advice. I doubt there are a lot of street ones that you'd buy and prep left anymore, and like you said - that just plain sucks.

If you didn't want to deal with yet another bike - couldn't you race the Hawk in LWF40 and the LW classes? Then just get rid of the F2?
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: funsizeracing on October 21, 2007, 09:26:35 AM
Quote from: howlieboy on October 20, 2007, 01:09:23 AM
Ah, the good ole days when you could run a set of tires for 4 weekends. 

What do you mean?  I still do that! :biggrin:
Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: howlieboy on October 22, 2007, 11:46:55 PM
As much as I hate to admit it, the Hawk is too out-dated to be competitive.  A stock Hawk makes something like 50hp.  You can spend some money and reliably build the motor to make 65.  Anything more than that and you are asking for trouble.  I think a nicely tuned SV makes 70 right out of the box.  It'd be neat to see someone do it right, but it wouldn't be me...  Not to mention, Hawks vibrate annoyingly, shift terribly, and are notorious for breaking cranks.  You'd have to be a much better ridder to beat someone on a SV.  That could be 1/2 the fun though....

Rich.... you were just getting used to the 600 class.... Give it another year.





Title: Re: MAM Race reports-PLEASE
Post by: funsizeracing on October 23, 2007, 10:11:25 AM
Quote from: howlieboy on October 22, 2007, 11:46:55 PM
Rich.... you were just getting used to the 600 class.... Give it another year.

Rich, listen to the little voice telling you to race LW next year.  Can't you hear the SV's calling you?