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Racing Discussion => Racing Discussion => Topic started by: 23sLady on September 04, 2007, 10:34:49 AM

Title: Summit Main
Post by: 23sLady on September 04, 2007, 10:34:49 AM
When are they repaving it? Someone told me they were doing it before this weekend's race?  :wtf:
Title: Re: Summit Main
Post by: DavidV on September 04, 2007, 11:37:38 AM
I hear this every year  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Summit Main
Post by: 23sLady on September 04, 2007, 11:59:40 AM
Bummer. :( I walked the track a few weeks ago and it seems like an obstacle for me. I'm sure I'll get use to it a few laps in. Gotta put my big girl panties on  :cheers: Thanks DavidV
Title: Re: Summit Main
Post by: LilJayRR on September 04, 2007, 12:15:28 PM
Quote from: 23sLady on September 04, 2007, 10:34:49 AM
When are they repaving it? Someone told me they were doing it before this weekend's race?  :wtf:

They talked about repaving it at one of the races at the begining of the season, but said it wouldn't be done/ready untill next year. When I see it, I will believe it tho.

There are a few bumps for sure (turn 1 and turn 5) but once you find them they are not hard to miss and still go fast. And the sealer patches in turn 6 have grip even tho they look like they dont. Others that are faster than I may not agree but just MHO.
Title: Re: Summit Main
Post by: 23sLady on September 04, 2007, 02:10:24 PM
cool deal. The bumps are noted now for sure. I'll thank you when I make it safely around the track. haha Thanks for the tips!
Title: Re: Summit Main
Post by: TheHiriser on September 04, 2007, 09:46:47 PM
Quote from: LilJayRR on September 04, 2007, 12:15:28 PM
There are a few bumps for sure (turn 1 and turn 5) but once you find them they are not hard to miss and still go fast. And the sealer patches in turn 6 have grip even tho they look like they dont. Others that are faster than I may not agree but just MHO.

Coming down the chute on the inside (T4 into T5)where the concrete and pavement meet there is also a sizable drop between the two.  Was a big hole which was fixed but I noticed where they could do some more filling as well.  Worth a look if you get a chance to walk the track again.

Front straight coming out of T10 if you get wide right, there are bumps inside the stripes if you haven't already noticed. 

Good luck.
Title: Re: Summit Main
Post by: steelcityracer on September 05, 2007, 10:32:51 AM
They need to move a few walls before they do anything else.  Repave will just make it faster and more dangerous.
Title: Re: Summit Main
Post by: LilJayRR on September 05, 2007, 11:55:08 AM
Quote from: steelcityracer on September 05, 2007, 10:32:51 AM
They need to move a few walls before they do anything else.  Repave will just make it faster and more dangerous.

Which walls is that? The only wall that concerns me is the one in turn 4 since it is a very fast sweeping cornor. Very few crash there, but when they do look out!! There is also air fence in the turn 3 and turn 4, it may not be prefect but at least it is better. Those are the only two section of walls that I can think of.

Now if you are talking about the Shenandoha circuit that is a whole different story.
Title: Re: Summit Main
Post by: DavidV on September 05, 2007, 01:14:21 PM
Turn 3, Turn 4, outside of 6
I also think they need to pave some of the run off area (t1, t10)


And I agree, a repave means higher speeds which ultimately means a more dangerous track with the way the walls are
Title: Re: Summit Main
Post by: LilJayRR on September 05, 2007, 03:39:30 PM
I would prefer some paved run off area as well. The gravel traps are hard to control and you basicaly have to crash, which sucks! But it does stop you pretty quck altho it gets little rocks EVERYWHERE!!!

I've only crashed in T1,T10, and T3... so far... which I'm sure now will change LOL
Title: Re: Summit Main
Post by: TheHiriser on September 05, 2007, 07:58:59 PM
Quote from: LilJayRR on September 05, 2007, 11:55:08 AM
Which walls is that? The only wall that concerns me is the one in turn 4 since it is a very fast sweeping cornor. Very few crash there, but when they do look out!! There is also air fence in the turn 3 and turn 4, it may not be prefect but at least it is better. Those are the only two section of walls that I can think of.

Ahem, T8, much like T4.
Title: Re: Summit Main
Post by: LilJayRR on September 05, 2007, 08:49:40 PM
Quote from: TheHiriser on September 05, 2007, 07:58:59 PM
Ahem, T8, much like T4.
T8 walls are of concern ? not that I am a expert on track 'safety'... the only ones that ever enter my sight are T3 (but at least there is a gravel trap) T4, and then T10 (again at least there is a gravel trap) the rest are all at slow enough speed that I dont have any concern. Of course I am not that 'fast' either.   :biggrin:  :ahhh:

I am by no means a saftey expert etc.. and my opinion is worth about .02, take it at what it is worth...
Title: Re: Summit Main
Post by: ahastings on September 05, 2007, 11:05:16 PM
T8 is prob. has the closest wall of all.
Title: Re: Summit Main
Post by: 23sLady on September 05, 2007, 11:16:58 PM
ahhhhhhhhh piece of cake :) It was a blast today. Thanks for the tips
Title: Re: Summit Main
Post by: Kuala76 on September 06, 2007, 09:38:27 AM
Quote from: LilJayRR on September 05, 2007, 08:49:40 PM
T8 walls are of concern ?

Yes...Turn 8 is no joke... it's even a little uncomfortable finding a "safe" place to work that turn since the walls are so close to the track. 

PS.  Please don't add Turn 8 to your "list of places I've crashed at Summit"  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Summit Main
Post by: TheHiriser on September 06, 2007, 10:23:52 AM
My avatar of me holding up the bike is a T8 incident.  Had two that particular time and it also collected 3 people in another incident that day.
Title: Re: Summit Main
Post by: LilJayRR on September 06, 2007, 10:38:28 AM
Quote from: Kuala76 on September 06, 2007, 09:38:27 AM
PS.  Please don't add Turn 8 to your "list of places I've crashed at Summit"  :biggrin:

Noted
Title: Re: Summit Main
Post by: SVbadguy on September 06, 2007, 11:27:49 AM
Station 7 (actual turn 8  ) has the closest wall.  Station 8 (actual turn 9) isn't much better.  CWs and racers aren't on the same page here in how they are refering to each.
Title: Re: Summit Main
Post by: Kuala76 on September 06, 2007, 11:33:05 AM
Quote from: SVbadguy on September 06, 2007, 11:27:49 AM
Station 7 (actual turn 8  ) has the closest wall.  Station 8 (actual turn 9) isn't much better.  CWs and racers aren't on the same page here in how they are refering to each.

I've heard this before...so in "racers" terms, the berm we stand on to work MARRC Corner 8 - where the air bag is sometimes, would be "racers station 7"???
Title: Re: Summit Main
Post by: SVbadguy on September 06, 2007, 12:37:43 PM
Quote from: Kuala76 on September 06, 2007, 11:33:05 AM
I've heard this before...so in "racers" terms, the berm we stand on to work MARRC Corner 8 - where the air bag is sometimes, would be "racers station 7"???

No, that's turn 9.  We (racers) call the turns what they are.  The corner station names are what vary.
Title: Re: Summit Main
Post by: TheHiriser on September 06, 2007, 12:58:12 PM
Quote from: SVbadguy on September 06, 2007, 11:27:49 AM
Station 7 (actual turn 8  ) has the closest wall.  Station 8 (actual turn 9) isn't much better.  CWs and racers aren't on the same page here in how they are refering to each.

Yeah I'm confused now too.  So where you took that picture of me holding up the bike racers call 9? 
Title: Re: Summit Main
Post by: Simon on September 06, 2007, 01:01:50 PM
Quote from: TheHiriser on September 06, 2007, 12:58:12 PM
Yeah I'm confused now too.  So where you took that picture of me holding up the bike racers call 9? 
I think thats right Mike. What we (cornerworkers) call 9, where the 9 hot tub is, isn't classed as a turn by most racers. What we call 8 they call 9.
Title: Re: Summit Main
Post by: castle228 on September 06, 2007, 01:59:42 PM
10-4    :lmao:
Title: Re: Summit Main
Post by: SVbadguy on September 06, 2007, 04:24:48 PM
http://www.ccsracing.com/venues/maps/summitmaintrackmap.pdf
Title: Re: Summit Main
Post by: TheHiriser on September 06, 2007, 04:38:56 PM
Quote from: Simon on September 06, 2007, 01:01:50 PM
I think thats right Mike. What we (cornerworkers) call 9, where the 9 hot tub is, isn't classed as a turn by most racers. What we call 8 they call 9.

Which is why we're supposed to call "Station #" and not Turn #.
Title: Re: Summit Main
Post by: TheHiriser on September 06, 2007, 04:39:25 PM
Quote from: SVbadguy on September 06, 2007, 04:24:48 PM
http://www.ccsracing.com/venues/maps/summitmaintrackmap.pdf

Crystal clear now, thanks Travis.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Summit Main
Post by: ahastings on September 06, 2007, 09:28:36 PM
Quote from: Kuala76 on September 06, 2007, 09:38:27 AM
Yes...Turn 8 is no joke... it's even a little uncomfortable finding a "safe" place to work that turn since the walls are so close to the track. 

PS.  Please don't add Turn 8 to your "list of places I've crashed at Summit"  :biggrin:
not on my "list" I only have turns 1,5 and 10 on my list.
Title: Re: Summit Main
Post by: TheHiriser on September 07, 2007, 06:05:40 AM
Quote from: ahastings on September 06, 2007, 09:28:36 PM
not on my "list" I only have turns 1,5 and 10 on my list.

My 3 favorite turns.  Least favorite 4 and our station 9 which I still haven't worked.  No 10 turn patch for me.
Title: Re: Summit Main
Post by: Russell2566 on September 07, 2007, 01:08:11 PM
T1 is a mogul field. I almost crashed on my first weekend at Summit Main when my puck literely got caught in the pavement and I almost got ripped off the bike.... so not cool.
Title: Re: Summit Main
Post by: clutch on September 08, 2007, 07:00:04 PM
Quote from: ahastings on September 06, 2007, 09:28:36 PM
not on my "list" I only have turns 1,5 and 10 on my list.

Dont forget 2 in the rain my man  ;)
Title: Re: Summit Main
Post by: TheHiriser on September 09, 2007, 10:32:19 PM
Quote from: sv814 on September 08, 2007, 07:00:04 PM
Dont forget 2 in the rain my man  ;)

That is high side city in the rain.  There has been video of that put up on one of the boards recently.  I want to say either a 125 or 250 two stroke high side in T2