I was curious how 'hardcore' people were about racing and their weight.
I usually try and keep active for the season, and summer in general, and just try and eat low-fat foods... nothing extreme.
I remember my first race weekend ever, @ VIR. We normally stop in Roxboro at the Burger King and grab some breakfast. So here we are, rolling up & getting our spot in the paddock. I get out and stand on the edge of the paddock 'road', still not believing I'm there to race, instead of watching a race. I'm chomping on my cholesterol infested, greasy, bacon egg & cheese croissanwich, as I see dudes walk by drinking Slim fast, eating bananas and yogurt and such. Man did I feel like a total stupid newbie, and seeing all these slim dudes made me feel like a fatty. (I'm 5'7" 165)
I felt like I should have puked it up after I ate it. It was kinda funny though, one of those "F*ck it, let just have fun" moments.
Though I am not 100% hardcore...
I am an Ex Road-Mountain Bicycler, and I will trim down to 135#s around May. Its more about other life activities but when you race bikes on paper paying attention to HP/Weight ratios I "in theory" hold a big advantage to the heavy weight guys. How ever skill will always over come this paper racing.
I am no more serious about my weight when it comes to racing than I am about regular day life. Of course 6'2 200lbs, there is not too much to slim off. I could loose enough to gain a HP or 2 if I tried really hard. But why bother!?
In the last 2 weeks, I got REAL serious and hardcore about my weight. I think it's too late to be where I want to be by April, but I'll be slimming down a LOT.
I'm 5'10" with a medium frame. Once I stopped Mountain bike racing, i started gaining weight, and then i was on some meds from which i gained 15 more lbs in 3 months. I WAS up to 203. Down to 197 right now, and want to eventually be around 160.
I have been working on my cardio and eating a little better. The only problem is I'm 6.2" 215 and don't have a gut to loose we will see what happens. I am going to try to be about 205 by april.
Started watching what I eat and riding my mountain bike (no hills down here though). I was 6'0 and 215 in December, now I'm down to about 196. I actually don't want to lose too much more, cuz I'll have to replace my fat guy leathers ;D.
I quit drinking in preparation for last season, and haven't had a drop since. This dropped around 30lbs off of me. I additionally spend 4-5 nights a week on a recumbant bike for a leg and cardio workout.
This has made a huge difference in my abilities... You can remain much more focused when you're not dog tired.
The weight was not the concern for me, it was the stamina...
Stamina has a lot to do with set up and technique. That's how I was able to outlast everyone at MAM. I used to be very preoccupied with my racing weight when I was an AMA Pro regular.
My mentor, Dale Quarterley, put it into perspective for me. He was like 6'3", 200+, and he eventually won an AMA Superbike race head to head. In the end, you still have to set the bike up and ride it.
With my goofy life, racing school, a bike that I don't have time to work on because of kids, wife, and a job... Working out just doesn't fit in for me. I would like it too, but I really, really don't have the time.
After doing so many diets for so many years, I do have it all figured out though. Unfortunately, I usually go off the diet during the season and gain weight because of all of the stress that I have trying to work on my school.
Ah...very, very good subject. Having been fat, mark that "morbidly obese" in the past, this is a subject I love. It's not only about weight, but about fitness.
7.5 lbs= one HP. If you are overweight, cheap ponies, right? But wait! there's more! It's more than slimming down and eating right. By fueling yourself properly you set yourself up for a whole cascade of positive health benefits, not only weight loss.
The body being the amazing machine it is loves good nutrition, and will use it to the best of it's ability, barring any disease. This is a tool for an athlete to use to his/her benefit.
Step 2 is conditioning. Cardio is good, produces stamina, and will further tune your body to perform at it's optimum. Ask your freindly personal trainer or gym rat about VO2 max. Strength conditioning is commonly ignored because some will tell you it bulks you up. However, your body has to have the right environment to become like Mr. Schwartzeneger, and most people don't even have the genetics to support that kind of growth. Strength training will condition your muscles, improve blood flow throughout you body, create a positive metabolic environment, and reduce recovery time of some injuries.
Step 3 Flexibily training. Probably the most neglected, and one of the most important for a number of reasons. Ever crash? Yeah, me too. Flexibilty conditioning can be a crucial factor between a sprained joint and a torn one.
Case in point, not at my target weight, I decided to give this sport a go. I'd been training, doing everything listed above. 2nd weekend ever, I crash in practice, cracking 2 ribs, wrenching my shoulder, knee and ankle. Blood pressure moments after the crash: 127/81 (normal) Heart rate: 78 (better than normal for the situation). Recovery time: sprains: 3 weeks, ribs: most pain gone in 1 week, healed in 6 weeks. I'm allergic to alot of pain killers, I only took naproxin sodium (aleve) for the first week.
Do I think that a comprhensive training program is of benefit? Absolutely. However, each person has to evaluate their own goals and lifestyle, and tailor your program to your individual needs. And yes, I'm also a personal fitness trainer. you can e-mail me with questions if you like.
I have a comprehensive training program centered around diet and weight training that I've been able to follow all since last year after the first race weekend where I realized how out of shape I was.
My winter results so far are (I'm 5'10"):
Starting Weight : 168, Now: 185 By April 1: 175-178
Bench press over 300 :D :o
Note I feel that strength is also very important, so I spent the entire fall/winter gaining mass with a little extra fat along with it, only way for a hard gainer. Now I'm in the phase to retain the gained mucle mass, increase cardio endurance, and reduce fat.
I weigh more than my bike so I'm thinking about getting in shape again. I used to primarily ride bicycles and have been up over 300 miles/week average but don't really have time to do that anymore. To be fair though, I don't think I will ever weigh less than my bike with full gear on.
Quote To be fair though, I don't think I will ever weigh less than my bike with full gear on.
You could always get a bigger bike. I have a 91 ZX-6 that would qualify for Thunderbikes. I'm sure that bike weighs more than you. ;)
Dawn :)
I am definately one of the people that have to watch out when working out because of my basic frame and ability to build size quickly. After changing positions at work I am now in a far less physically demanding environment. Thus I gained weight rather quickly due to less calories being burned thru activity and had enough trouble just stopping that negative trend. Now that I leveled off I have to get back down on weight or the leathers are going to be a problem!
Whether racing, bike riding, down hill skiing, snowmobiling, or stand-up style jet-skiing my stamina has never been an issue due to being over weight most of my life. I even wonder if as long as your cardio fitness is good that the extra fat might actually provide more available energy when racing? I never have had a problem with fading away during a race due to physical reasons, even after racing 6 classes per event.
Something people should be careful of is just going by their weight. I have a Body Mass Index (B.M.I.) scale now and it is much more representative of your overall fitness than weight alone. For those who don't already know, this sends a super low level pulse (which you can't feel at all) thru your body via metal pads mounted on the top of the scale. Your supposed to be stripped down when doing this, have clean feet that are not wet, and do it right before you have your evening dinner (for consistency). The scale will give you both your weight and your BMI and can be purchased at many sporting goods stores. BMI is NOT your body fat %, but instead relies on the fact that muscle and fat have different electrical resistance and can be tested very easily thru this pulse method.
My goal is to watch my Body Mass Index while loosing weight and get it to and maintain it at a safe %.
QuoteI even wonder if as long as your cardio fitness is good that the extra fat might actually provide more available energy when racing? I never have had a problem with fading away during a race due to physical reasons, even after racing 6 classes per event.
I'll agree. If you can put your body into a state of Ketosis, where your body is using fat stores for energy rather than trying to convert carbs, yes, it does feel better, from my experience. And endurance and sprint athletes have proven that same case too. I don't have the studies, but I have seen them. And again, I have some experience in that too.
Isn't ketosis kinda dangerous? Ketosis is basically the first step to the adkins diet where your body burns stored fat and I hear it's not too good for the body because to get to that stage.. you have to refrain from any carb intake. Anyone want to clarify this? I need to shed some of my winter blubber before April and I'm too lazy to do it properly.
Ketosis is a natural process that occurs in the body, period. That is how fat is burned and used as energy.
I'll go off on my tangent...
We're cavemen, ok. So, food is abundant at times, and at others is isn't. Protein is used to build things. Carbohydrates are used for energy IF they are needed immediately. So, when cavemen found berrys and such, they ate them until they couldn't eat them anymore. They use some of the energy and the rest was stored as...fat. The caveman goes out and kills some fish, deer, mabye a bear, whatever. Eats that and he has protien for building his body's muscles, bones, injuries from the mammoth ambush, etc. You get too much protein, it leaves your system.
Now, when the caveman has a restricted diet in the winter, he probably had smoked fish or something that would keep, but he would go out and try and kill something fresh, if he could find it. So, his body would still be getting protien. For energy, the body moves into a state of ketosis and it utilizes fat stores for energy.
Take the protien sources away...
Here's where it gets interesting. The body won't want to use the fat it has stored away. It wants to use that for energy. And, after all that's all it can be used for. But if you have a building or repair fuction in your body, you have to have protien. Fat doesn't work for it, and neither do carbs. So, your body goes and takes materials from muscles and bones to take care of building that just has to be taken care of.
So, in my years of racing I had tried a whole lot of things to loose weight. One year, I was so frustrated, I didn't really eat real food for about six weeks (racers can be so obsessive compulsive). I worked out a whole lot. I did loose some weight, but then it kind of stopped. Then my work outs suffered. My body wasn't going to release any of that fat because it might need that later. Eventually, I had to start eating because my strenght was suffering.
So, a couple of years ago, i did buy the Adkins book. I read it. I understand what ketosis is. Now, yes, Dr Adkins says you should reduce your carb intake to about 20 grams a day for about two weeks. You don't have to eliminate them. This is called the induction phase. Why do this? Because food is so over filled with carbs, it's just unreal. Our carb intake is skewed one way, so it needs to kind of get skewed back on track. It isn't easy. Your body is so used to having tons of carbs floating around that you can feel kind of tired, a bit sluggish. It's just your body getting back into the swing of how it should be.
After that, you can add carbs little by little. We each have kind of a threashold for weight loss.
Heart problems? Wanna talk about cholesterol numbers. People in Europe seem to lead the way in cholesterol numbers. Lots and lots of people have numbers in the 300's. But they aren't dead and they don't have plaque in their arteries. Oh, and they like naturally high fat foods with cream, liver, sausage, etc. And how many really fat Europeans do you see?
The heart problems can be traced back to too many carbs, fluctuating insulin, (gee, now we have a diabetes problem...even among kids...). All pretty much goes back to WAY too many carbs.
And there seems to be this thing floating around that too much protein can damage a kidney. No such study. However, a damaged kidney can't process protien. That's the apparent root of that one.
Dave's advice. buy the book. I'm not the leanest guy, but I found that I can loose weight by eating rather than starving and working my self to death. I should exercise, but I don't have time. And then racing season comes and I eat incorrectly.
I am back on a low carb diet again. I've lost about seven or eleven pounds. You see more happening with a low carb diet because you loose the mass of fat, which doesn't really have a lot of weight. Unfortunately, we carry WAAAY too much of it...
Hardcore ::)
Always active. Upper body to throw it in the turns 8)
Jogging and biking for the heart, lungs, legs. :P Sex for the rest ::) Bloody Marys for guts. ;)
:o6 ft, @175lbs. fully suited 8)
I try my best to eat 4 fried chickens and a coke before each race. oops i almost forgot, you got to smoke 2 packs of Marlboro Lights too ;D
I prefer a quicker charge....
A pack of Camel non fliters in a retention enema... :o
Dave,
Are you refering to yourself in the third person now?
Matt wants to know. :)
Dave,
Could you do a quick rundown of foods to avoid (high carb)? Pretty much pastas, cereals, breads, potatoes... what else?
QuoteDave,
Are you refering to yourself in the third person now?
Matt wants to know. :)
We are Borg...
QuoteDave,
Could you do a quick rundown of foods to avoid (high carb)? Pretty much pastas, cereals, breads, potatoes... what else?
Super Dave's full service...
I look at the boxes and all.
The further away it is from the farm, the more carbs it probably has...
You're pretty much spot on. But you've got to look. I like soup, and usually, it's pretty decent. The wonderful wife picked me up some Healthy Choice soup and it was loaded with about three times the carbs of my normal soup.
I love bread... That's the hard one for me. Pasta too....
Ever notice that you can sit down and eat about a pound a pasta and a whole loaf of bread? Carbs just make you want more...gives you kind of a charge...like Red Bull (it's loaded too, then they put caffeen in it to slam it in your system...).
For eight bucks or so... Buy the Atkins Diet Revolution book. Read the whole thing. Then you know how it works. Keep reading it so you understand.
I think the big trick for racers... Travel. If you go to get burgers, throw away the bun. The meat and cheese is good for you, and you'll feel full. Eat it with the bun (carbs) and you'll want about ten more burgers. Fat can be a key...it makes you feel full. And it is necessary for absorbtion of certain minerals and vitamins. Fat does not make you fat.
I did Atkins for the first time a little over two years ago. Lost 45 lbs. with no real "extraordinary" exercise. The hardest part was giving up fruit and sweets. After the first 10 days, it got a lot easier - energy levels were actually noticeably higher than before I started. Atkins will definitely teach you the importance of reading labels on packaged foods. It seemed like there was corn syrup in EVERYTHING!
One thing I learned from Atkins was that high-fat diets were never problematic before man invented processed sugar. The Inuit did just fine on a high-fat diet... the problems started when sugar and refined flour were introduced. Heart disease and diabetes were virtually unheard of until the dawn of the 20th century - and there is a direct correlation between introduction of things like Coca-Cola into the diet and diabetes/obesity/heart disease. The pancreas can only work so hard at producing insulin for so long before it just "quits".
I'm back on Atkins again - haven't been weighing myself but my clothes are getting looser. Next will be stepping up exercising... building stamina and lower body strength (honestly, I should have started this last fall but procrastination....)
If you're going the high-protein/low carb route, watch out for starchy vegetables (potatoes, corn, peas and beans), hidden corn products in prepared foods (most Chinese cooking uses corn starch as a thickener in sauces) as well as the obvious (pasta, bread, rice, etc.). Fruit is laden with sugar too.
I'm not hardcore, but definitely watch my fat intake and try to drink a lot of water in general. I'll have a bag-o-chips here and there, with the occassioanl burger, but mostly have Slim Fast for breakfast and another one for a snack, here and there (Creamy Milk Chocolate flavor rocks!) and lean towards the grilled chicken, etc.
I used to be a serious gym freak, had huge protein intake, but stopped doing the heavy weights and literally lost 30 lbs. (I have the metabolism of a rabbit on crack), but started to keep a bit extra on the mid-section.
What to do?
All I do now is continue to watch what I eat, ride the dirt bike as much as I can + I've got a punching bag in the garage and I'll work on that for about 30 to 40 minutes, 3 or 4 days a week... and I'll play some basketball sometimes, or do some really fast walking on our treadmill (can't run due to a knee injury via a crash on the street... pre-racing that is). Nothing scheduled to the minute, but ya know... gotta always stay active and do SOMETHING after work/on the weekends.
I'm about to get a trampoline (again)... a 15 ft. circular one. I gotta tell ya... these can be some serious excercise + it's a boatload of fun. I know, sounds kind of silly, but it can really get the heart rate up and be a great workout. Sam's Wholesale... $200 out the door!
8)
Oh yeah, the day before a race, I'll start drinking a little more water + eat PB&J at the track.
Well...I work for Fitness Resource in Oakton Virginia, and I can tell you from experience that no matter what program you pick (Atkins, Bill Phillips, whoever)
it all boils down to cooking more calories than you take in. I used to have the "Rabbit on crack" metabolism too, but when I turned 35 everything I ate started sticking to me and I had to start being more conscientious about what I was eating (carbs, sugars, etc.) But a good balance of cardio work, resistance training, and watching the diet will go a long way toward making you feel more energetic, stronger, quicker, and just better in general.
...Now here comes the plug.
If any of you guys need exersize equipment...
RACERS DON'T PAY RETAIL AT MY STORE!!!
Come see me and I will get you set up with whatever you need.
You really need to read Atkins...
I can loose a lot of weight without working out. Fat mass, not muscle. And I eat a lot. Ketosis is the key... I don't have the book in front of me, but you can really surprise yourself. There is science behind it.
I tried something about 10 years ago that worked very well for me. I had heard that one of the problems with our current life styles was that we get out of work, go home and relax, have a big supper, crash in front of the tube for an hour or three, then go to bed. The biggest problem with this senerio (other than the lack of physical activity) was the time between when we last eat and then go to bed or become inactive. What I had learned was that it takes something like 4 hours for food to leave your stomach and start thru the energy machine. What you are doing at this time will greatly determine what your body does with this food, in other words store it as fat for future use or keep it on hand for more immediate consumption.
I began eating dinner immediately after arriving home and then would not even snack for the rest of the night. Over the next several months I lost 45 pounds by doing this alone, I did not change my diet at all! I also wasn't exercising to achieve this goal (though this probably would have sped up the process). Another thing that can help is if you exercise sometime after eating supper, but preferably not too close to the time you go to bed. This will help with your body deciding what to do with that last meal of the day. Also eating a lighter meal as the last meal of the day helps tremendously too.
Say what you want about this type of approach but I know it works. Just don't eat (or snack) during the last 5 hours before going to bed and I guarentee you will lose weight. It may take a few weeks before you start seeing the results but it will happen, so stick with it! Once you achieve your desired weight you can reduce the time of last eating to about 3 hours to maintain your weight.
A word of caution though, this is for losing weight and not for overall fitness. Exercise and nutrition are needed for good overall fitness and if combined with what I described above will be very affective in losing weight and getting in shape. This is what I am planning on doing to get where I need to be physically (after the last several years of slacking off).
QuoteI have a comprehensive training program centered around diet and weight training that I've been able to follow all since last year after the first race weekend where I realized how out of shape I was.
My winter results so far are (I'm 5'10"):
Starting Weight : 168, Now: 185 By April 1: 175-178
Bench press over 300 :D :o
Note I feel that strength is also very important, so I spent the entire fall/winter gaining mass with a little extra fat along with it, only way for a hard gainer. Now I'm in the phase to retain the gained mucle mass, increase cardio endurance, and reduce fat.
Where does heavy drinking figure into your comprehensive training program? (La Passage) ;D
Buy the book. It's a natural state that your body can enter. That's about it. Dangerous? Diabetes is dangerous... That's what you get when you body can't handle carbs.
And there is a lot of bad talk about Ketosis...
And remember, the USRDA just changed their food pyramid because they know it's been screwing us all up for about forty years now. Watch it change again.
I'm 5' 8" 140. I'm going to work my way down to 138 for the race season. (I'll stay at 5' 8" though) ::)
With an electric shifter and a stand, I figured that I could drop an easy forty pounds by just cutting my legs off and still race.
Better yet, it happens in an "industrial accident"... Lawyers, compensation... I mean, I've been trying to find a way to have a bigger race budget... ;D
here is a good article to read about fitness
http://www.sportrider.com/features/146_0010_fit/
as for me, i run and bike a few miles every day, lift weights every other and try to eat low carb, high protein and vegies.
Yea, Dave, and everyone has some good points here, but just remember.. every body (no pun intended) is different, and there's no 1 solution for everyone.
The only kind of general 'diet' that everyone can benefit from is eating healthy, regular exercise and SLEEP.
Of course, depending on you're body's state, depends on what works for you, some of the methods described will might not be the best for YOU.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to shoot down any diets (atkins, The Zone, Hollywood, etc) or anyone's advice here... there's some great advice on this thread.
Just an example of what I'm saying, taking myself, when I was a personal trainer at Gold's, there was NO WAY that I could cut out carbs: I was doing 30 min. of cardio, and 45 min of weight lifting 6 days a week.. I was taking in over 3000 calories a day.. my bodyfat was at best down to 8%... It's like Pete said.. you need to use up everything you take in. And yea, I have the rabbit on crack metabolism, year-round soccer for 20 years did it to me, but I'm not complaining.
And then there's suppliments... I use Glutamine to regulate blood sugar to keep the cravings away when I eat low-no fat, and Ripped Fuel for the energy boost. But that's a whole 'nother topic... of non-healthy ways to burn fat.
Only eat as much as you think you're going to spend in the next 2-3 hours. If you're going to sit on your ass and stare at the computer for 4 more hours, eat half that chicken breast, not the whole thing. Then if you need it, eat the other half later. Eat smaller portions more often.
Anyways... sorry for the rambling. The best advice I can give, in general, is that you have to know your body... know what you eat, how much you should eat, and how your body reacts to different foods.
my .03
QuoteWe are Borg...
Resistance is futile.... You will be assimulated.....
Paul says please assimulate me!!!!
Dawn :D
You will be absorbed...
SLEEP?!?!???!
When I started racing (I think that's around the invention of the wheel now), I lived in Omaha. So, the closest race track was Blackhawk farms. That was 442 miles away. Next the original Gateway, Brainerd,MN, Hallett, OK, then Second Creek in Denver. Sleep was just not an option.
Give me a good night's sleep before a race, and I'm all screwed up. Just the way it is from habbit.
Here's a good one...
We used to have an AMA National at Charlotte Motor Speedway. Neat town, but the track was a mess. In 1991, it was a Thursday, Friday, Saturday event. So, hey, Grattan's got something going on, I'll just drop in on the way back home to Omaha. Nine hundred miles later, it's 630AM and the gates opening...(Did I mention that someone gave me $100 to bring their bike up from Charlotte too?).
I slept between practice sessons. Didn't do too bad or too good. The bike was just evil. As Brian J Nelson...he still remembers.
Yea Dave, I hear ya... I can't seem to get more than 4-5 hours sleep on the fri. or sat. nite of a race weekend... too nervous & excited.
QuoteYou really need to read Atkins...
I have a friend who did the Atkins Diet and it worked wonders and he lost 25 lbs., eats a ton and keeps it off. From what I know, the diet is VERY strict, and the first 3 weeks is the hardest part.
Sleep?
I wish....I've got a five year old and two year old.
Try sleeping when a forty pound ball of energy decides to strees test your groin with a boney elbow at 3:30am every week night, and twice on weekends!
Hey Mike,
I didn't know you were an ex-footballer. I usually tune in to the English Premier League on Fox Sports World at some point during the race weekend. You oughtta come over to my pit and watch a match or two.
QuoteI have a friend who did the Atkins Diet and it worked wonders and he lost 25 lbs., eats a ton and keeps it off. From what I know, the diet is VERY strict, and the first 3 weeks is the hardest part.
Ok, this is part of my life philosophy...
Everyone comments off handedly. The diet is VERY strick, but that's only from what you know...LOL! And the first three weeks are the hardest.
Ok, now have you ever had to loose weight! That's hard. Atkins is easy, when you understand it, because you're not hungry. Being hungry, now that's hard when trying to loose weight.:-/
Again, read the book if you're curious. But I do mean the whole thing, not just parts of it.
QuoteSleep?
....I usually tune in to the English Premier League on Fox Sports World at some point during the race weekend. You oughtta come over to my pit and watch a match or two.
Dude, I didn't know you brought a TV to the track?... whatch got, DirectTV or something on there also?
Yea, you DO bring alot don't ya :)
BTW... I'm going with a 5x10.
Hey Moravek-- I let you sponge off of me for an entire season and now all of a sudden it's "your pit!?!" A guy gives you some nice props in Roadracing World and all of a sudden he plays "Pit Commander!!" ;D Fu#@ing Novice!!! :P
Shannon...I bring the dish, the microwave, the cool rubber matting, I do my share.
Now I just need to teach you how to pick a sight that isn't facing directly into the sun, isn't in the middle of a 3ft creek if it rains, etc!!! ;D ;D ;D
On a serious note...I guess I do have to give props to Santoni, he did introduce me to the world of RoadRacing.
(I still think running #99 is blasphemous for a hockey fan.)
Hey Mike...we have the DirecTV running all weekend.
You and the wife are welcome to come and hang out.
We'd love to have you in OUR pit.
Ok, So far I've noticed that everyone is taller than me. I'm 5'6" and I currently weigh 154 lbs. At the end of the race season last year I weighed 150 and change. I feel so fat now that I put on the damn 4 lbs.
I noticed there were a few folks at the banquet that were slimmer than last season. I saw a few that put on a lot of weight. Shame on you...
I try to stay very active during the winter months...in the past I would downhill ski and roller blade (here in MN we have an indoor track for roller skates). Since my ski injury, I can't do the extreme winter sports that I used to do. I am doing weight training and diet to stay on track for this season. I notice that when I get below 150lbs. my strength suffers a little.
Dave, I like the way you refer to the caveman... really humans haven't changed all that much. The study made on why Native Americans can easily become obease is very interesting. It boils down to how diffrent races metabolize food. My whole family has a hard time staying slim, but they are carbo hogs. ;)
The best diet at the track is a cold Miller Lite!!! There's nothing better than hanging out with your racing buddies on the weekends having a few cold ones.
QuoteThe best diet at the track is a cold Miller Lite!!! There's nothing better than hanging out with your racing buddies on the weekends having a few cold ones.
After racing, right? :o
Always after the races of course.
Would that be for breakfast, Which would give you a good hour to drain it out before practice ;D Every once counts ::) Don't forget the Shot before Lunch :-X
QuoteAfter racing, right? :o
oh you guys and your weight. we all know it's the rider, not the pudge. c'mon, i'm 5'3" and 100 pounds and slow as h*llll. i don't think adkins is gonna help me, and i sure am not unhealthy at 24 (especially with all the sleep i get, which is a lot). we are club racers, not nicky hayden, have fun with it.
rhiannon :-*
She's 24, I'm gonna be 42...guess who can last longer on the treadmill? :o
QuoteShe's 24, I'm gonna be 42...guess who can last longer on the treadmill? :o
When I was 24 I stayed up all night partying and whatnot. If she is anything like I was, I'm sure you could outlast her.
BUT, Lets see YOU stay up all night and party then do what she can do all day. This is the talent that you lose when you get old(er). I know this. :'(
I was never a party girl. Ahhh...lost youth.
Alexa
I think you can out party her sheis a very cheap date when it comes to drinking. And of course we all know that old age and wisdom will always beat youth and exuberance. ;D
Craig