did anyone happen to see me flipping down the front straight and off turn one and maybe see what happened that got the rear end bouncing around? pics would be oober cool. :cheers:
i passed 5 people on the first lap, got a good run through the last turn, passed another and was setting to out break a guy into turn one. i had just lightly eased on the break waiting for the other guy to break first and the rear end started kicking side to side.
i was going damn fast and slid/flipped a long damn ways.
i'd really like to find out what the hell happened to cause it.
thanks.
I was pitted next to ya and my g/f gave your transponder back. We seen you and your bike go flipping and tumbling off turn one. We couldn't quite figure out what happened. Their were a bunch of bikes behind you and on the inside of you so you may have been tapped from the side. Some people in turn one thought they seen you hit the guys rear tire in front of you but whos to say... Glad to see you got up safely! Hows the ankle doing?
Jan on here was working turn 1. He may had seen it.
swollen up to me knee now. i'll hit up the dr. in the morning.
i didn't hit the guy in front of me. i was about 4 feet or so to hit right when it all started happening. i did talk to him afterwards. he said the bike or me hit him when i went down. i was glad he made it through okay. i was looking for other bikes when i finally got up. i'd hate to take someone else out.
and thanks for getting the transponder for me. thanks to everybody.
AND A HUGE THANKS TO THE CORNER WORKERS. their voices sound like angels when you come to flat on your face. you guys have every once of my respect.
ouch! Sounds like a rough weekend at Blackhawk.
were glad to know you made it home ok jester... :thumb: let us know what the dr says.
better go update the how many times you crashed thread glad to see your OK hope nothings broke. hate when you can't figure out what happened Marc
Quote from: funsizeracing on May 13, 2007, 10:43:04 PM
ouch! Sounds like a rough weekend at Blackhawk.
Yeah, it doesn't ease a nervous stomach when you've just gotten your license, and are asked "so you gonna race tomorrow?" by the guy that broke his collar bone at Topeka, who is standing next to a guy that broke his shoulder blade that day, knowing that another guy you know just broke his collar bone, and after watching Greg Avello's crash (so glad it sounds like he's doing ok). "Oh, you'll be fine" :P
Court Jester, hope yer foot's doing ok.
Quote from: Court Jester on May 13, 2007, 09:29:19 PMmaybe see what happened that got the rear end bouncing around?
just lightly eased on the break waiting for the other guy to break first and the rear end started kicking side to side.
Wasn't there and didn't see it but.... if you are trying to out brake someone into T1 at blackhawk and you are approx. 4 feet to the inside of the rider in front (as you mentioned) then your rear-end could be lofted by a undulation in the track surface there (done it many times, rear in the air I mean - not crash). If your suspension/chassis isn't set-up well your going to experience quite a bit of loft in the rear and it could be what caused your loss of control. Hope this helps
When your rear came down it was not straight with your bike. I think you were on your brakes a little hard then you think you were from what the guy behind you said. If you could get in touch with Daniel Swenson (AM123) he had a front row seat for it all. He was so happy not to hit your bike. Hoipe things are getting better. We'll see ya at the track
Quote from: Team_Serpent on May 14, 2007, 05:34:15 PM
Wasn't there and didn't see it but.... if you are trying to out brake someone into T1 at blackhawk and you are approx. 4 feet to the inside of the rider in front (as you mentioned) then your rear-end could be lofted by a undulation in the track surface there (done it many times, rear in the air I mean - not crash). If your suspension/chassis isn't set-up well your going to experience quite a bit of loft in the rear and it could be what caused your loss of control. Hope this helps
yep... rear wheel seems "loftier" this year going into 1
i don't know. the breaks on the kawis are much stronger than i am used to but i know i had hardly hit the breaks. i mean i had just eased onto it just a wee bit waiting for the other guy to break.
i don't know. i'd just like to know what happened. not that it'll change anything. but it would ease my mind and maybe allow me to learn a little bit.
but i got one hell of a concussion. my head is still pounding. and a broken tibia and a cracked libia at my ankle. i should know tuesday if i get pins and/or screws.
i should be back out this year. but not sure when .
Sorry to hear that,
I've always avoided pins and screws, even if it means a longer healing time of the bone. If everything is pretty well in-line my vote has always been to leave it alone. I just don't like the idea of being cut, drilled, and left with foreign matter.
Hey, that kinda reminds me of a song - Screwed, Blued and Tattooed :biggrin:
I'm going to just take a stab at this since I wasn't there but frankly i think you crashed because....YOU LOST CONTROL!! :biggrin: :biggrin:
Sorry, had to............
slower rear rebound.dampning.......o well i have been wrong a wee bit lately but I'm glad your well - a full time setup sorting kind of cat,these days,- since the Speedwerks guys set me up :banghead:"yeah ive got issues but am looking into superbikeitalia- means either i trailor it out to the chicago area (from NJ)or crate it up, gotta look to the midwestern K3 and Ken at superbikeitalia for a complete turnaround on my poor mistreated SV 's handling and safety-heard many "gasps" at how the 05GXR1K forks compressed, rebounded"sounded and performed with the OHLINS 25 mil kit(previously installed )and the front brake locked up in the rain at summit may5-6 and thecornerworkers all came over and said they wish the had a camera for that save-(its never a GOOD thing to hear) the front end failed in every way-but the bike and i are in 1 piece, my luck is runnin out, i fear..I came verrry close to an exit from the sport in the last couple of weeks, after three trys I cant seem to find a regional distance even shop that does set-up suspension AND replaces parts while clearing out their old inventory .Good your ok,mike :cheers:hope an answer why is recorded for your longevity.. john
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if the x-rays come back okay friday and the bones are where they should be, i wont need pins or screws.
nice work,Mike, :spank: a tattoo artist could incorporate that in to the previous work,if it doesnt go away......john
ouch. Is the x on the foot to tell the doctor its THIS foot?
HELMSMAN Said ouch. Is the x on the foot to tell the doctor its THIS foot?
Sure WOULD be a bummer if they take off the WRONG ONE................. :pop:
Quote from: CATMAN on May 15, 2007, 11:09:04 PM
Sure WOULD be a bummer if they take off the WRONG ONE................. :pop:
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
make sure you get a good akle guy my wife broke hers and the first guy pinned it wrong the second one had to redue it but it will never be right.one of best ankle guys in the country is docter Sanders in tampa he's got tools named after him marc.
that would suck.
i'll find out friday forsure if i need pins or screws. as long as the bone is still where it should be friday when they take more x-rays and the swelling is down, they're just going to slap on a full cast and let me cook for the summer.
i know my dr. did send my first x-rays off to a few different people for supporting opinions. so i do feel good about that.
what kinda boots where you wearing? looks like they did a damn good job. thats a pretty clearly marked bruise from the ankle support... hate to see what it looked like without
Quote from: Court Jester on May 16, 2007, 01:40:07 PM
that would suck.
i'll find out friday forsure if i need pins or screws. as long as the bone is still where it should be friday when they take more x-rays and the swelling is down, they're just going to slap on a full cast and let me cook for the summer.
i know my dr. did send my first x-rays off to a few different people for supporting opinions. so i do feel good about that.
Get the waterproof cast! Trust me, it's worth it!
Quote from: funsizeracing on May 16, 2007, 03:45:41 PM
Get the waterproof cast! Trust me, it's worth it!
they dont make those in adult sizes Becka, sorry.
they were speed master boots. been through 4 wrecks over 75 mph and this is the first time i've had an issue. i've liked them thus far.
i ended up leaving work early today. i had 2 blood vessels pop in my eyes. i guess that's normal after a good bonk to the head according to the doctor. but it freaked me out. both my eyes are blood red. looks pretty cool now that i'm calmed down about it.
Well if nothing else, you can scare little children, even if you can't chase 'em! :biggrin:
Heal up quick, remember that nutrition is a big part of that equation.
thank you thank you thank you all.
yeah. i've been popping the calcium pills, vitamin D, V8 juice, milk, and orange juice.
Quote from: benprobst on May 16, 2007, 07:08:02 PM
they dont make those in adult sizes Becka, sorry.
They make them in
ANY size, the water proof part is the synthetic material that they put on your leg before the hard cast material. It dries faster and has anti-all-kinds-of-stuff in it so that it
WILL eventually dry out and while it does it doesn't grow and rot. Had it on my wrist 3 months ago.
Quote from: tstruyk on May 16, 2007, 02:42:57 PM
what kinda boots where you wearing? looks like they did a damn good job. thats a pretty clearly marked bruise from the ankle support... hate to see what it looked like without
It's not only the boots, out by the second brake marker was a foot long red scrape and some red Mohawk material on the track, another scrape about 10' down the road and from there on you were cartwheeling and bouncing in the grass all the way to the outside of corner one.
What brand is the helmet?
actually i think you meant was "what brand *WAS* your helmet"
Jan:
to be honest, i have no idea what brand the helmet is. did it's job though. i figured it was pretty bad. One of the corner workers said he'd called for the meat wagon before i even stopped tumbling and i can remember wondering if i was going to stop flipping.
so i assume you saw the wreck???
did you happen to see what set it off???
No, sorry,I did not see what started it. The marks on the track are about 1' from the edge of the track.
I found this on another site CJ. Someone that was watching from turn one
No, I didn't get any pics of the accident, it happened so fast. He started to brake hard, then the rear got a little loose, the rear started to slide to the left, then re-connected which looked as if the rear wheel rolled over his right foot which vaulted him off the bike. It sent him rolling and sliding deep into the grass in turn one. Once he was thrown off the bike rode right down the straight away into the grass of turn one and must have hit a hump in the grass, shot up five feet in the air and did one frontwards flip in the air, and the second flip in the grass. I saw him hobble a bit to the ambulance but never saw him next to the bike in the pit area again, so I wondered if he was okay.
Thanks sux.... at least you have a back-up bike, or two or three...
It was good meeting you the Monday before.
Quote from: Jason748 on May 16, 2007, 09:56:55 PM
Thanks sux.... at least you have a back-up bike, or two or three...
It was good meeting you the Monday before.
yeah, if nothing else, i've had a good time meeting everyone i've been talking to all this time.
i was good meeting you too.
and all the back up bikes in the world don't mean shit without a back up leg.
Quote from: Hawk on May 16, 2007, 08:16:11 PM
They make them in ANY size, the water proof part is the synthetic material that they put on your leg before the hard cast material. It dries faster and has anti-all-kinds-of-stuff in it so that it WILL eventually dry out and while it does it doesn't grow and rot. Had it on my wrist 3 months ago.
yeah it was a joke considering that she is a miniature person and was ment to imply that the rose covered waterproof cast they got for her at cardinal glennon was not availa....................... ahhhhhh forget it, you missed it. next time ill put a smiley. :biggrin:
Wow! Heal up quick Mike.
Quote from: benprobst on May 16, 2007, 10:37:32 PM
yeah it was a joke considering that she is a miniature person and was ment to imply that the rose covered waterproof cast they got for her at cardinal glennon was not availa....................... ahhhhhh forget it, you missed it. next time ill put a smiley. :biggrin:
:ahhh: Damn! Right over the top. And I double checked for the smiley too. :ahhh:
I had to ask at my ortho (I've been giving them way too much business) , they don't seem to offer them to adults. The only reason I knew to ask was I happened to be in the waiting room one day when they were walking a little girl out to her mother. Seems no matter how I double bag, over the course of 2 months I always get a leaker at least 2 or 3 times and without the water proof, man do they get stinky fast. Plus it seems the techs always have sooooo much fun scolding you for getting it wet.
thanks for the input on the water proof cast. i thought that's all they used now days. guess not.
Quote from: benprobst on May 16, 2007, 10:37:32 PM
yeah it was a joke considering that she is a miniature person a:biggrin:
LOL! miniature person! :lmao:
I used a dremmel to cut a cast of once, so I could go water skiing. After that I always ask for waterproof.
hey mike, if the brakes on the 6 were anything like the ones on the 636 of yours I rode at HPT it's no wonder a little did more than a lot when trying to out brake someone going into T1 at BFR
I've had the tail of my 6rr do the same thing and the brakes on that are no where near as wicked as what on that kawi of yours I rode in practice.
do good with the healing process man. the tack is going to miss you while you're gone and so will your race team partner Ted
speaking of Ted, when's he going to race next?
but i wasn't really on the breaks. the bikes will squirm from side to side and i had the rear wheel a foot or so off the ground at hpt from adding too much break. never had it kick from side to side before though. i dunno...
not sure on ted. he might be going to MAM. and i know he'll miss the next BHF weekend cause he'll be in alabama. not sure about the rest though.
I've had the rear of my 6er do the same thing a few times at BFR going into T1
yours just got violent something quick from what I gather.
it'd be cool to un into Ted at MAM
I'm headed there with Super Dave and leaving sat
Quote from: Court Jester on May 18, 2007, 08:32:12 AM
but i wasn't really on the breaks. the bikes will squirm from side to side and i had the rear wheel a foot or so off the ground at hpt from adding too much break. never had it kick from side to side before though. i dunno...
My guess would be a death grip on the bars. Just a thought...
that could be.
Ok, where's the xrays....? We've seen the beautiful outside, now how 'bout the inside? How about your concusion, are your eyes ok, that was scary to read about that. Give us an update, we need a new thread to talk about, xrays and how much it's gonna take out of your pocket book and when you're gonna be able to race again. Don't forget to take SuperDave's miracle bone fix-it pills. I finally got my horse pills and am taking them as instructed...lol. Did you find out exactly what you broke in your ankle? Anyway, take it easy and heal quickly. Marc.