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Motorcycle Racing => Wrenching => Topic started by: mq105 on January 13, 2007, 03:48:42 PM

Title: Remote starter/rollers
Post by: mq105 on January 13, 2007, 03:48:42 PM
Does anyone have any knowledge or experience with rollers or remote starters? By remote I mean a starter that is not attached to the bike. I'm thinking of something like Moto GP or Indy cars.
I know someone who has a 1970-something Rickman Honda that he wants to vintage race, but it doesn't have a starter. He doesn't want to push start and is looking for alternatives.
Title: Re: Remote starter/rollers
Post by: snair on January 13, 2007, 05:10:42 PM
i bet you could make one with a lawn mower engine, a couple of rollers, and some 1inch square tube
Title: Re: Remote starter/rollers
Post by: Super Dave on January 14, 2007, 10:55:00 AM
I raced a CB400F for a guy.  Starter was removed. 

You can put a bolt on the end of the crank, then put an access hole through the cover, then slip a starter though with a piece to engage it.  You'll need a battery to engage that.  Pretty easy.

Someone in AHRMA makes a roller unit that has a battery and a starter than engages a set of rollers.  Used that on a CB450 (http://teamhansenhonda.com/) that I raced for some nice folks.  You might be able to contact Terry there about it.
Title: Re: Remote starter/rollers
Post by: mq105 on January 14, 2007, 09:17:33 PM
Thanks. I will check with AHRMA about this.
Title: Re: Remote starter/rollers
Post by: RCR_531 on January 14, 2007, 09:40:51 PM
here is what you are looking for
www.doczintl.com
Title: Re: Remote starter/rollers
Post by: Super Dave on January 15, 2007, 07:59:22 AM
Bingo!  Good find.  Really works well.

http://www.doczintl.com/solo_starter.html
Title: Re: Remote starter/rollers
Post by: mq105 on January 15, 2007, 04:02:59 PM
That's it! Excellent. Thanks for the help.

MQ
Title: Re: Remote starter/rollers
Post by: tstruyk on January 15, 2007, 04:31:49 PM
isnt there a guy in the MW that uses the rear tire of his truck on some kind of roller contraption to "bump" start his bikes?
Title: Re: Remote starter/rollers
Post by: Super Dave on January 15, 2007, 04:39:42 PM
Yeah, but you need a helper for that.  I just bump start bikes.
Title: Re: Remote starter/rollers
Post by: Sig on January 15, 2007, 10:49:05 PM
Is this really worth the hassle?
Title: Re: Remote starter/rollers
Post by: Scotty Ryan on January 15, 2007, 11:47:45 PM
I think it is either Brian Lacey or Gary Palmer that use that unit.... When I was running a Honda Hawk a couple years ago - my tuners made a Ducati style starter.... It was a 5HP engine mounted to a Chassis with wheels so you could move it around.... On the end of the crankshaft they put a go kart style clutch - and welded a go kart wheel and tire to the clutch..... It worked good - But like Dave said - it requires someone else to operate it....
Title: Re: Remote starter/rollers
Post by: cardzilla on January 21, 2007, 01:37:26 PM
I use the docz unit and it works great, and he's a real good guy.  The only drawback is having to transport the whole thing (I'm close to my weight limit already), but that is true of all roller starters and not exclusive to the doc z unit.

For 07 I am looking to design (like SD mentioned) a direct crank engage external starter.  Less weight ... and the girlfriend will be able to do it ;)
Title: Re: Remote starter/rollers
Post by: Greg_Williams on January 22, 2007, 10:38:48 AM
I race a single in Great Plains.  I used to carry a set of rollers.  They're about 3' long, you place the rear wheel of the race bike on one end and the rear wheel of another bike or car on the other.  You use the other bike or car to spin them up to fire up the race bike. 

I leave them at the shop now and just bump the bike off.  If we're somewhere with a slight slope it's easy, or you can always recruit someone to push.

If his Rickman is a CR750 it should be very easy to bump start.
Title: Re: Remote starter/rollers
Post by: Super Dave on January 22, 2007, 10:43:22 AM
Yeah, agreed.  I can bump a CR by myself no problem.
Title: Re: Remote starter/rollers
Post by: Scotty Ryan on January 22, 2007, 10:48:12 PM
Quote from: Greg_Williams on January 22, 2007, 10:38:48 AM
I race a single in Great Plains.  I used to carry a set of rollers.  They're about 3' long, you place the rear wheel of the race bike on one end and the rear wheel of another bike or car on the other.  You use the other bike or car to spin them up to fire up the race bike. 


We used to use rollers as well - but when I got my new truck - It didn't work out wo well.... The electronically controlled locking rear end just caused the truck to jump fight off the rollers as soon as the tire started spinning.....