Real happy w/ EBC, but thought I would give Vesrahs a shot this season.
Do they offer a CCS contingency in 2003?
As far as I know, Vesrah does not offer contingency money. In my experience, the chance of winning a few bucks for using EBC pads is the way to go. In fact I think everyone should run EBC pads, especially if they're going to compete against me. I'll just keep on running my Vesrah pads, and if EBC gives each of us free pads and a $100 bill, you can have mine.
Just for the record, I had to run EBC pads for two weekends before I got more Vesrahs. My EBC pads are at the bottom of the lake at Gingerman...
Funny you mentioned that Speedie...
About 2 weeks ago I sent Tom Mason an email about whether or not he'd stock Vesrah for this year. In WERA, they just hand you a new set pads at the event when you place in the races for which they "pay". no order form, no cert, just instant pads.
Haven't heard back from him. If he doesn't want to do it, I may.
You should be able to get Vesrah pads from me or Kevin Hanson. We're working out the details. In a pinch, I do like the DP Pads. You can get them at your favorite dealership through Parts Unlimited...
I agree, everyone I race against should run the EBC brake pads.
Ferodo has a new sintered race pad that Colin Edwards and the Europeans had been using. I hear they are great, but its too cold to try them right now.
Last year i tried a bunch of pads, The only ones that seemed to be worth a hill of beans after a few days ( or heck a few sessions for that matter) were the Vesrah RJL's and the Performance Friction '95' compund. The PF's are a carbon metallic where the vesrahs are metallic. Both broke in pretty nice, no whacky break ins.
Vesrah pads rock!
I tried a lot of different pads last year and the Vesrah's become a crack habit in themselves. Super Dave and I are working out the details on them, but should have plenty in stock.
Once you try them, you'll never go back whether they pay contingency or not. The thing that is great is the have a really good feel to them and you know what the front tire is doing under breaking.
What's wrong with stock ones??
QuoteVesrah pads rock!
I tried a lot of different pads last year and the Vesrah's become a crack habit in themselves. Super Dave and I are working out the details on them, but should have plenty in stock.
Once you try them, you'll never go back whether they pay contingency or not. The thing that is great is the have a really good feel to them and you know what the front tire is doing under breaking.
Hanson, what are you talking about? Keep your mouth shut. I know that you are going to run with the big boys in AMA this year, but I still need my competitive adavantage. SSssshhhhhh!
I have Vesrahs in stock now ;D
QuoteWhat's wrong with stock ones??
The stock ones really work pretty well.
The Vesrah and DP pads just have a real easy lever pull with the bike slowing down quickly. No bed in. Just go.
anyone tried the sbk-3 pads?
Um, what are they...?
carbone lorraine group. High per. sintered brake pads. picked em up off ebay.
Ok, yeah. You ever use the Performance Friction pads?
No they are still in the box. Can you tell me anything about them? Like sell them and get the vesrah's or go for it. btw any brand brake lines you recomend?
QuoteNo they are still in the box. Can you tell me anything about them? Like sell them and get the vesrah's or go for it. btw any brand brake lines you recomend?
Don't know too much about them.
Which brake lines? I'd just call Street & Comp and see what they have. Or I get them from P3 Racing in Florida.
I can get you brake lines ;D Russell,Goodridge,Magnum and a few more..lol...let me know...
sounds like im gonna put vesrah's on the f2.....
wonder why none of my friends told me last season to get rid of them ebc stickers???
Unless Vesrah adds CCS contingency, keep the EBC stickers, get pads, sell them to street guys.
Ethics? wat's dat?
OK - I have to ask....
What is the difference between EBC and Vesrah?
Why is one better than the other?
Dawn :)
QuoteOK - I have to ask....
What is the difference between EBC and Vesrah?
Why is one better than the other?
Dawn :)
well,....................
cuz Super_Dave said it :)
Quotewell,....................
cuz Super_Dave said it :)
Nope - I need more than that.
Is it the feel?
Is it the braking power?
Do they last longer?
What's the word?
Dawn ???
I felt that they had much more power than the EBCs, or Ferodos, for that matter. (don't tell Ferodo, I am sponsored by them)
The other general concensus is that they provide better feel when trail breaking. They aren't grabby and inspire confidence. Hanson might know the specifics of what compounds they contain, etc.
How do vesrah pads last compared to EBC or Ferodo?
To be honest and i carry both pads in stock..and i have also used both...there to me was not alot of difference in stoping power between EBC and Vesrah the big difference is that there is no "break in" time on Ves. and there is with EBC...that is my .02 worth..lol...but if anyone need either..give me a call...LOL ;D
What Super Dave said....LOL!
I want brakes that are easy to pull. After all these years, I had to deal with pads that I just had to hammer to get the bike to slow down. Over time, it's just beat up my arm.
EBC's need a real specific bed in, or they just don't work right. They they glaze, then you can't stop.
I want brakes that I can use two fingers with, yet have outstanding power. Read as little lever pressure, slow down fast.
DP, Performance Friction, and Vesrah are my picks.
Logevity? No. They do wear out quicker, but the obvious importance of braking is what you gain. I don't want to muscle the the braeks.
Do EBC's work? I've ridden bikes that have EBC set ups that do work well. I can't seem to take the time to get them bedded in correctly. I try and try and try, but I can't get it to work. If I do get it to work, it only works for a period of time....for me.
For me, the value of being able to put in a set of pads at any moment that I need them and have them work with no bed in...That's valuable time for me.
I don't want to waste the precious few laps of practice that we are limited to anymore.
Just curious; According to a bike dealer's catalog, Parts Unlimited lists two types of Vesrah brakes-- either sintered or kevlar. The sintered are not listed as HH. If I try Vesrah pads, what should I be trying?
Thanks, DW
Well parts does not have the new RJL pads as of yet...however that is what i would say go with...i do not have any in stock yet but i will have them in about a week...let me know...
The EBC's are way too grabby. They come on really hard at the beginning. However, I didn't have the feel that I needed for trailbraking. Like Dave said, they reach a point where they glaze over.
When I raced the Pro Thunder round at Road America I was fighting the thing trying to trail brake into the turns. I thought I was off the brakes and I would take my finger off the lever at the apex and the things were still grabbing and I didn't know it. Almost ended up on my head a few times.
The new RJL Vesrah's are just really good. The have great breaking power, but give you really good feedback at the same time. Plus, just put them in and rail.
I tried a set of DP's for one weekend and they seemed to be a compromise between the EBC's and Vesrah's.
Dang, I'm long winded like Dave!
Quote...keep the EBC stickers, get pads, sell them to street guys.
I can sell them for 50cents on the dollar...like I do w/ my food stamps ;D
Before any of you tax payers b!tch...I can't buy my booze w/ the stamps, so I gotta sell um :P
I don't know why EBC's are getting all the flak ???
I used them and liked them pretty much....not great but definately 'usable' (in amateur anyway).
Loved the initial 'bite' (was great for snapping up endos at 80-100mph ;D on the street :-* ), and had good power and feel. They could lock-up the front tire at will.
Only complaints I had, was too, too much lever pressure was required (echoing Super Daves comments) to get them to shut the bike down and they would start to fade and get spongy after several sprints, causing even more lever pressure.
They were OK though, not as bad as everyone is saying, imho.
Everyone seems to say the same thing about the Vesrahs though, good power, no fade....so I am going to snag a set from Dave at BHF's.
I am sure they are better than the EBC's, but I haven't had a chance to try them yet.
btw: I thought the Ferrodo's were garbage. No matter how hard I squeezed the lever, they wouldn't shut the bike down. Junked em after 10 minutes.
Some guys love them though.
QuoteOnly complaints I had, was too, too much lever pressure was required (echoing Super Daves comments) to get them to shut the bike down
I don't know what the problem is, I do and always did use only one finger to brake.
You guys better hit the gym. ;D
Quote...I do and always did use only one finger to brake
we are NOT talking about the rear brake, Dave ...geeeze ::) ;)
Quotewe are NOT talking about the rear brake, Dave ...geeeze ::) ;)
LOL!!!
Yeah...I had a feeling SOMEONE was going to say that. ;D