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Title: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: Xian_13 on July 23, 2006, 09:58:55 PM
 :ahhh:
Over this last weekend, I have become convinced that my racing friends are simply trying to kill me.

Let me explain...
First off, your racing friends encourage you to drive all night long with little to no sleep.

Once you get to the track, they hand you beer after beer, only resulting in nasty hangovers the next day.

Out on the track... Your best friend in the world... now won't give up one inch of asphalt! If you try to take it... They will fight you for it, with all their might.

In the off chance you should crash... These so called friends, sit up all night helping you get your bike back together. Just so they can put you back out on the track the next day.

In the worst cases... After a back wreck, they wait for the perfect moment when you need your track fix... And they get you back out on the bike as soon as possible.

So, it seems to me... My racing friends are trying to kill me!
And they are still the best friends in the world!!!   :cheers:

XIII
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: spyderchick on July 24, 2006, 09:37:17 AM
Aw.. that's so sweet, we luv you X!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: grasshopper on July 24, 2006, 10:53:56 AM
 :thumb:Yup!

Did K3 get you drunk and take advatage of you last weekend X? It's OK, he get kinda emotional and lonely all by himself in that fandango champion motorhome of his.
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: Jeff on July 24, 2006, 11:46:51 AM
Let me be the party pooper...

Cute story but I hope it isn't true...  If it isn't true, just stop reading now.



Getting on a track with a hangover is absolutely stupid.  It's incredibly irresponsible and a danger to not only yourself, but everyone there.  The reason you're hung over is that you still have alcohol in your body and it's deprived of water.  Both scenarios equate to decreased reaction time and poor judgement.  Definitely not something you want while you're piloting a 145 mph 550lb (rider/bike) missile.

Christian, I'm sure you meant this thread to be funny.  It will stop being amusing when your "friends" succeed and something tragic happens.  That is the cold, harsh reality of this. Death...  It's not humorous, it's a factor we all play with when we're out there.

Since I'm being the prick, I'll use this thread to convey the message to EVERYONE.  People, grow up and be responsible when you're getting on the track!  Save the drinking for the non-race weekends, or after the weekend is done.  Besides, lugging around an extra 20lbs in beer-fat doesn't do you any favors.  To coin a phrase, "The life you save may not be your own".

And on a final note, Christian, if you did crash again this weekend, you might really consider involving a professional coach/instructor to work with you on a number of things.  In the long run it will be cheaper than all the repairs and downtime you've been experiencing.  I don't say this as a slam, I say it from personal experience...  I crashed a LOT when I started and started picking up the pace.  I brought on a couple of professionals (one in the race instruction dept, one in suspension) and worked methodically on my problems.  I am much faster these days and crash a hell of a lot less.

I'd say I'm sorry if I pissed in anyone's wheaties, but I'm not.  This is my stance.  You're welcome to your own...
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: grasshopper on July 24, 2006, 12:03:24 PM
You're Monday morning piss in everyones Cherrios makes sense Jeff. But I wouldn't run around preaching that on Saturday night during the wegman weekend. You mite get 1 or 2 dirty looks from people trying to have a good time. A couple beers to relax before bed never hurt anyone, I think 99% of the people around the club race scene know that. There's a certain common sense line that people should KNOW not to cross. If you're well off and intelligent enough to be finacially stable enough to be a Club racer the assumption is you carry some common sense.
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: Jeff on July 24, 2006, 12:15:58 PM
actually the wegman weekend is the ideal one to preach it at.  if you wanna get plowed sucking the margarita ball, that's cool.  I have no issues with that.  Just forego your racing on sunday if you're still hungover or impared.

and your assumption is a very large one...  :-)
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: Xian_13 on July 24, 2006, 06:47:43 PM
Yes Jeff, I was trying to be entertaining with this thread.
By no means am I encouraging anyone to drink heavily the night before a race.

I find humor to be my release in things and some times I have a twisted way of saying thank you.

Quote from: Jeff on July 24, 2006, 11:46:51 AM
Let me be the party pooper...

And on a final note, Christian, if you did crash again this weekend, you might really consider involving a professional coach/instructor to work with you on a number of things.  In the long run it will be cheaper than all the repairs and downtime you've been experiencing.  I don't say this as a slam, I say it from personal experience...  I crashed a LOT when I started and started picking up the pace.  I brought on a couple of professionals (one in the race instruction dept, one in suspension) and worked methodically on my problems.  I am much faster these days and crash a hell of a lot less.

I'd say I'm sorry if I pissed in anyone's wheaties, but I'm not.  This is my stance.  You're welcome to your own...

Yes, I have crashed 3 times this year.
Each one was by a differant reason... and yes one came damn close to taking my life.
One was a suspension mistake I made...
One was the crash involving Greg
And the last one was just a freak thing but we will chalk that up to poor judgement on my part.
Last year.... I crashed once. That was due to me trying to use a front tire for to long.

Unlike many racers, my budget doesn't allow for the money spent to have some one tune my suspension.
Unless somebody is going to have this done as a gift to me... I choose to learn it myself and tune it myself.

While I understand your "Lodgic" on the coaching...
Yes I could use coaching... Hell, I could use alot of things.
Like Money!
I try to ride in the range of my equipment. This means a Crappy Old bike, Rashed Leathers, Running tires longer then I would like and so on.
Keep in mind, I raced out of my pickup truck till this year because I didn't have the extra 2k for a small trailer.

Yeah... I could go faster and safer...
Just not on my budget...


XIII

P.S. Anyone looking to adopt a Racer?

Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: msbrit1 on July 24, 2006, 08:39:24 PM
Xian if you find someone to adopt you ask them if they want a 19yo brunette daughter too...
I don't mean to plug another site but chicagolandsportbikes did a suspension seminar at 4&6 last winter and I'm pretty sure that alot of guys found it really helpful.  I don't have the notes anymore but it might be something to look in to.  I learned alot and so did Vic. 
I don't think riding/racing/driving or operating anything with a motor is a good idea hung over. 
But again thats just my .02
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: Jeff on July 24, 2006, 08:57:39 PM
Sometimes it's cheaper to take the expensive route...  Case in point, my amateur year, I couldn't afford tire warmers.  1st race weekend, practice #1 I crashed on cold tires.  Cost me $400 in crash repair and $200 for those used tire warmers that I "couldn't afford".

When I was crashing a lot, I spent a hell of a lot more than running a few schools and working with suspension tuners. 

I ended up scaling back my racing, cutting out weekends here and there and doing a LOT of favors for others to get the help I needed.

Really it comes down to controlled chaos.   Track days are useless if you go out and just run through 100 laps making the same mistakes. 

Expensive?  Sure, it can be.

Years ago I told a guy named Dave Rosno that I couldn't afford to race if I bought a new shock for $800.  He replied that all I was doing was frustrating myself because I was falling down all the time and that I would have much more fun, even if it meant missing a couple weekends, to correct my suspension.

I bought the shock, missed 2 weekends and came  back and really started improving.

If you don't have an unlimited bankroll (which most of us don't), you have to make sacrafices (or is it sacrifices? too lazy to look it up) somewhere to make up for it.
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: Xian_13 on July 24, 2006, 10:07:31 PM
Crashed on Cold Tires?
Man thats a lame excuse. You crashed because you did something on the bike, that just happened to have cold tires.

Ohh I agree about track days...
Then again, I didn't go out there for a trackday.
Also, I didn't crash.

A friend of mine, has done me a favor...
To help me get out on the bike, even though I am still battered and bruised.
I was trying to thank him and all my friend for being behind me.
I guess your opinions are much more important then that.

Next time I try to be entertaining...
Delete my post... or edit it to your own flavor.

XIII
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: Woofentino Pugrossi on July 24, 2006, 10:10:48 PM
Quote from: Xian_13 on July 23, 2006, 09:58:55 PM
I have become convinced that my racing friends are simply trying to kill me.

If they do can I have your truck and trailer? :biggrin:
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: jer271 on July 24, 2006, 10:14:52 PM
YA Edgar listen too Jeff  :ass:
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: Protein Filled on July 24, 2006, 10:34:43 PM
Huh? Hey Jeremy... put down the crackpipe before you post!

Quote from: jer271 on July 24, 2006, 10:14:52 PM
YA Edgar listen too Jeff  :ass:
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on July 25, 2006, 06:32:51 AM
Quote from: Xian_13 on July 23, 2006, 09:58:55 PM
First off, your racing friends encourage you to drive all night long with little to no sleep.
You were already in the process of doing that the night I met you.  I take no blame there.
Quote from: Xian_13 on July 23, 2006, 09:58:55 PM
Once you get to the track, they hand you beer after beer, only resulting in nasty hangovers the next day.
You handed me the first beer.  Once you opened the floodgates, it was up to you to sink or swim....
Quote from: Xian_13 on July 23, 2006, 09:58:55 PM
Out on the track... Your best friend in the world... now won't give up one inch of asphalt! If you try to take it... They will fight you for it, with all their might.
My religion will not allow me to be beaten by an athiest.
Quote from: Xian_13 on July 23, 2006, 09:58:55 PM
In the off chance you should crash... These so called friends, sit up all night helping you get your bike back together. Just so they can put you back out on the track the next day.
Without a full field, someone loses out on contingency money....
Quote from: Xian_13 on July 23, 2006, 09:58:55 PMIn the worst cases... After a back wreck, they wait for the perfect moment when you need your track fix... And they get you back out on the bike as soon as possible.
OK, guilty as charged.  Sorry.

Looked like you were starting to get your fangs back this weekend, X.
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: Jeff on July 25, 2006, 09:04:22 AM
Quote from: Xian_13 on July 24, 2006, 10:07:31 PM
Crashed on Cold Tires?
Man thats a lame excuse. You crashed because you did something on the bike, that just happened to have cold tires.

LOL... I did...  I tried to make the 1st right hand turn at Gateway in the morning on new tires.  The bike didn't like it much...

Quote
A friend of mine, has done me a favor...
To help me get out on the bike, even though I am still battered and bruised.
I was trying to thank him and all my friend for being behind me.
I guess your opinions are much more important then that.

That's cool.  I have no issue with it.  The racing community is a fantastic one to be a part of and is filled with some of the best people I've ever met in my life.  My opinion is worth no more or less than anyone else's.

Quote
Next time I try to be entertaining...
Delete my post... or edit it to your own flavor.

XIII

I won't delete it or modify it.  It's your post.  I also have no desire for you to change it.  If you have a desire to change it, that's up to you. 

It seems I'm the odd man out for the way I interpreted the post and responded to it.  I knew you meant to be humorous, but read a bit more than perhaps I should have into it. 
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: jer271 on July 25, 2006, 10:24:54 AM
Well its about time u reply,  Ive been making fun of your imagrant ass as much as possible, i thought u moved back too south america.
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: EM JAY on July 26, 2006, 12:34:55 PM
Quote from: msbrit1 on July 24, 2006, 08:39:24 PM
Xian if you find someone to adopt you ask them if they want a 19yo brunette daughter too..

 I'd be willing to adopt a 19yo brunette.   :biggrin:   Do I have to adopt Xian too????  Package deal only?   :banghead:
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: Burt Munro on July 26, 2006, 01:06:18 PM
Mike,

I think it is a package deal - but not with Xian.....  The package she was talking about was a 19 y.o. brunette that comes as a package with a fiancee!  :kissy:
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: G-reg on July 26, 2006, 01:25:43 PM
Quote from: EM JAY on July 26, 2006, 12:34:55 PM
 I'd be willing to adopt a 19yo brunette.   :biggrin:   Do I have to adopt Xian too????  Package deal only?   :banghead:


Getting ideas from Woody Allen? 
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: msbrit1 on July 26, 2006, 04:51:33 PM
Yes the boy comes too...he's part of the package.  I'm talkin a Dad who wants his daughter to become an AMA racer and wants to foot the bill while hes doing it.  Instead of my dad who's gonna kill me when he finds out about my trackday/bike/wanna race thing I have going.
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: EM JAY on July 26, 2006, 06:01:30 PM
Quote from: Burt Munro on July 26, 2006, 01:06:18 PM
Mike,

I think it is a package deal - but not with Xian.....  The package she was talking about was a 19 y.o. brunette that comes as a package with a fiancee!  :kissy:
I was making no insinuations (how the hell is that spelled?) towards anyone inparticular.   :thumb:  Come to think of it I'd prefer a blonde...I think they're easier to trane.... :spank:  :lmao:
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: msbrit1 on July 26, 2006, 06:37:07 PM
That's a big word for you Em Kay, insinuations.  (I think but I suck at spelling.) And blondes have more fun but Brunettes do it better :)
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: Xian_13 on July 26, 2006, 07:10:10 PM
Em Jay..
Isn't a 19 y/o a bit to old for  you?

Blondes??? Brunettes?...
As long as they can Dance!...                                      And are insanely Pyscho...


XIII

Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on July 26, 2006, 10:42:49 PM
Actually, they call him Em Gay, and he trolls for dates at Boys R Us!

Out of shame and pity for Em Gay's preference, (Not that there's anything WRONG with it![Seinfeld reference!])I volunteer to take up any slack in the 20-30 year old girl department.  Wouldn't want those young dollies to be without an ogling old man to make fun of!
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: EM JAY on July 27, 2006, 12:50:08 AM
   Seem to have dug myself quite the hole here....LOL!!!    Dammit. 

    Xian this is for you......
(https://www.ccsforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg95.imageshack.us%2Fimg95%2F8160%2Fxtinaxw0.gif&hash=7ff4938362ec6234c7134d82e0a2e32f7baafc6c) (http://imageshack.us)

  Kay-Thrizzle, don't make me post the pic of our time at Gingerman again....   :spank:
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: IBFrank on July 27, 2006, 06:58:33 PM
Jeff, stop whining on here, geez, tell your kids not to drink-not smoke the chronic- not to snort the paint- whatever!! These guys are big kids, if you have a problem with someone drinking hard the night before a race you go tell them in the morn or tell Bill Fehrman, I'm sure officer Fehrman will handle it if he feels it should be a problem.    This is a b*tch session that came out of a post when Xian wanted to rib our friendly childrens story writer 'Gay3'
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: msbrit1 on July 27, 2006, 07:55:40 PM
Em Jay...shes a slut...someone hotter please.
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: IBFrank on July 28, 2006, 12:13:28 AM
You got it right Em Jay, and so did you Brit, one hot slut!!!  :jerkoff:
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: spyderchick on July 28, 2006, 08:39:18 AM
Yo, PJ, whassup?
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: funsizeracing on July 28, 2006, 08:55:02 AM
shes a slut...

What's wrong with that?
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: Protein Filled on July 28, 2006, 10:06:10 AM
Yeah, she makes it sound like that is a bad thing...

Quote from: funsizeracing on July 28, 2006, 08:55:02 AM
shes a slut...

What's wrong with that?
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: EM JAY on July 28, 2006, 12:26:49 PM
Quote from: Numbskullz-113 on July 28, 2006, 10:06:10 AM
Yeah, she makes it sound like that is a bad thing...


Right!  The world needs sluts and ditch diggers.  Right Gay-3?? 
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: spyderchick on July 28, 2006, 12:31:37 PM
Quote from: EM JAY on July 28, 2006, 12:26:49 PM
Right!  The world needs sluts and ditch diggers.  Right Gay-3?? 

Actually, slutty ditch-diggers are in high demand. That's why "Ho"-biz is so busy.  :lmao:
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: Burt Munro on July 28, 2006, 01:29:19 PM
Thus the term for a piece of ditch diggin' equipment - BACK HO! :biggrin:
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: IBFrank on July 30, 2006, 04:26:28 PM
Hi Alexa, not doing much racing this year doing the VRS schools for Blackhawk and Topeka, BTW- Russ Voigt, Benji Thornton, and PJ Thornton are all available to become amatuers next summer  :boink: Alexa- think there will anyone crying then?  :wah: Hey all you slide by amatuers, the Thorntons are coming and we aren't taking any names!  :finger:
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: lil_thorny on July 30, 2006, 08:34:55 PM
Yes...that is correct. I figure we could learn how to race all over again by post entering and coming from the back of the pack.

See all you Yellow plates next year,

Lil Thorny
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: StumpysWife on July 31, 2006, 08:30:35 AM
Hey by next year, Stumpy will have some solid time off!

Yellow plates it is!!!!   :biggrin:
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: lil_thorny on July 31, 2006, 09:41:57 AM
Oh...that would be so nice.

I can see it now...

I will be the Simon Kowalski of 2007. Unfortunately, I will be chasing RVR's Russ and PJ instead of being chased by all you fast expert guys!


LT.
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: stumpy on July 31, 2006, 05:26:05 PM
I'm in!!! Ike you around? We can have a yellow plate reunion! :cheers:




Stumpy
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: Protein Filled on July 31, 2006, 08:07:44 PM
What a bunch of sandbaggers... :blahblah:
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: IBFrank on July 31, 2006, 11:42:05 PM
Yup, sandbaggers. I believe the last time I raced I fell 4 times :lmao: and still only finished 6th out of 18, no one wants a crazy crasher like me in the experts highly competetive races. I really feel it's in all of your best interests that I learn all over again before I become an expert.  :blahblah: You think Simon's letter read something like that??
Now, more importantly, Jeremy which yellow is legal for our bikes number plates??  :boink:
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: IBFrank on July 31, 2006, 11:45:58 PM
OOOOH, to make this more fun, Stumpy, Benjina, Jeremy, Ike, Russ, and myself will always start from the last row. Edgar, does that sound like more fun to watch?
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: spyderchick on August 01, 2006, 08:26:44 AM
We are currently developing a "sandbagger" class devoted to former EX racers who are returning to the sport. Pink plates will be required, specifically, "Geaorgia Peach Pink". Please consult a rulebook for other "sandbagger" specific requirements.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: Jeff on August 01, 2006, 09:02:24 AM
If we getta run pink, I'm in...
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: lil_thorny on August 01, 2006, 10:26:25 AM
Ohhhh...so you think we are joking eh?

There is no sandbagging...just rust proofing is all....My last two race weekends went something like this:

"Oh crap there is another tree!"  "Can someone please help me find my bike, it is somewhere in those bushes..."  cornerworker on radio, "Yeah, we are gonna need a chainsaw"  :wtf:

Could be that I just suck, but maybe I need some yellow track time... :whine:

I am sure that the Fuer and Brian Hall wont mind if we start from the back in the second wave  :ass:

LT
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: lil_thorny on August 01, 2006, 10:30:21 AM
And another thing Edgar,

Quit yer whining because you of all slow people should be happy that you will be getting a 5 second head start on us sandbaggers :boink:

P.S.
Stacey misses you studmuffin.

LT
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: Protein Filled on August 01, 2006, 06:50:12 PM
Stay away from Brainerd's turn 2 and you should be OK...
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: lil_thorny on August 03, 2006, 01:39:27 AM
Roger that...never got past lap 2.
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: jer271 on August 03, 2006, 02:49:59 PM
oH HE HAD TOO GO THERE DIDNT HE,  HES JUST NEVER GONE FAST ENOUGH TO CRASH BENJI.
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: Protein Filled on August 03, 2006, 05:48:08 PM
Better than running off half the corners every lap because we go in WAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY too deep, Mr. Bent!
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: jer271 on August 04, 2006, 08:09:08 AM
Who Me, I dont dont go deep enough, My girfriend says so!
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: IBFrank on August 04, 2006, 07:48:03 PM
Yup, she said your nick name in high school was "Pin Dick Bug Fucker!"  :lmao:
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: jer271 on August 04, 2006, 09:04:16 PM
I gota tell her to stop calling u,  and Edgar.
Title: Re: I am convinced that my racing friends are trying to kill me!
Post by: catman on August 07, 2006, 12:09:42 PM
Such   (:spank: :kicknuts: )   Fun! :lmao:HEY! When did the swearing become the new standard-it' sso much more descriptive and easier to understand! :boink: Have a nice day,i,m going for a street ride hopefully following the rules.........NJ JOHN