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Motorcycle Racing => Wrenching => Topic started by: aberg12012 on March 06, 2006, 12:25:22 PM

Title: Brake Pads - EBC vs. Vesrah?
Post by: aberg12012 on March 06, 2006, 12:25:22 PM
I ordered a set of Vesrah pads through my local shop, unfortunately they ended up being back ordered till June???  I'm assuming EBC "HH" pads are the other big choice?  Is there any major difference between the two?  (Probably a Ford vs. Chevy vs. Dodge type of debate?)


Thanks,
Alan
Title: Re: Brake Pads - EBC vs. Vesrah?
Post by: mdr14 on March 06, 2006, 01:16:59 PM
Did you try any of the following sources for Vesrah Brake pads:

MD Racing
Lithium Motorsport
Baker Race Gear

The good RJL or Super RJL pads are not sold through Parts Unlimited.
Title: Re: Brake Pads - EBC vs. Vesrah?
Post by: cardzilla on March 06, 2006, 01:24:53 PM
Though I've never used Vesrah pads, I have used the double H's extensively.  They are excellent pads and take whatever abuse you can dish out without fade.  They bite very predictably, lap after lap.

I think most top of the line pads are good, probably kind of like debating who makes the best motor oil.  If you can't get the Vesrahs, you'll be happy with the EBC's.
Title: Re: Brake Pads - EBC vs. Vesrah?
Post by: aberg12012 on March 06, 2006, 05:21:26 PM
Thanks for info.  I'm stopping in to the shop tomorrow to figure things out.  I'm not sure if they were ordering through P.U. or not, but when the shop went to call in the order to which ever distributor, they were told they are on back order with an ETA of like June.  If I can't get the SRJL's I'll go with the "HH" pads through EBC.  I assume both pads have a progressive feel, and are comparable as far as longevity?
Title: Re: Brake Pads - EBC vs. Vesrah?
Post by: damico on March 07, 2006, 05:56:30 AM
Try carbone lorraine pads very progressive pad and they feel great from the first time you put them in until the backing plate is rubbing on the disc.  EBC's (in my opinion) have good bite for the first race and fall off pretty fast after that and have a wooden feel after a weekend.
Title: Re: Brake Pads - EBC vs. Vesrah?
Post by: Jeff on March 07, 2006, 06:32:13 AM
I would agree with Jason on this...

The CL pads are the most consistent pads I've ever felt in my life...  
Title: Re: Brake Pads - EBC vs. Vesrah?
Post by: Super Dave on March 08, 2006, 01:53:36 PM
Agreed on the wooden part for EBC's.  Super RJL's are great.  Heard great things about CL's.  Will be racing with DP Brakes racing compound again for 2006.  We won an endurance championship on them a few years back, and we're making the return.  DP's should be easy to source though Parts Unlimited from your dealer.

Title: Re: Brake Pads - EBC vs. Vesrah?
Post by: racerx196 on March 26, 2006, 03:42:25 PM
if you guys had the choice between vesrah, CL, EBC, Performance frisction, Galfer... which pad whould you choose?  

performance wise not price wise...
Title: Re: Brake Pads - EBC vs. Vesrah?
Post by: barryd on March 26, 2006, 05:26:25 PM
Vesrah SRJL $$$$$, but I haven't tried Galfer
Title: Re: Brake Pads - EBC vs. Vesrah?
Post by: Rick Beggs on March 26, 2006, 05:32:19 PM
i hate to dis a company that is so involved in roadracing like EBC, but i think they need to do more testing, they used to be the best, but now
ferodo, perf friction, braking and vesra are the best i have used, they all have availability problems except perf friction, they all work well, and last great too
be sure you get the race compound of whatever you choose
Title: Re: Brake Pads - EBC vs. Vesrah?
Post by: racerx196 on March 26, 2006, 07:31:32 PM
thanks rick..... appreciate the help... seems like everyone say to steer clear of EBC... even their kit pads?  I heard they are good but cant seem to find any info on them..

Where can i get vesrah pads the srjl 8's or 17's?  I tried doing a search but they dont seem to be readily abailable... could be me though...
Title: Re: Brake Pads - EBC vs. Vesrah?
Post by: mdr14 on March 29, 2006, 05:53:12 PM
Ok I am a stocking dealer for the VEsrah race pads. I order regularly.
I do have a few models of SRJL's in stock.. Namely right now R6/R1 and GSXR I mostly have RJL pads though.

(309) 526-3246

Sorry, I just could not resist the ambulance chasing on this one.

Matt
Title: Re: Brake Pads - EBC vs. Vesrah?
Post by: jigmoore on March 29, 2006, 06:09:09 PM
all you guys are nuts.

i can use up stock pads or cheapos in about one day at the track.  my rjl's last one whole season.  and i am no puss on the brakes.  nobody (that i raced with) beat me on the brakes.

the rjl pads are the only ones you guys should be using.  the ones in the gold package.

period.
Title: Re: Brake Pads - EBC vs. Vesrah?
Post by: Protein Filled on March 30, 2006, 08:56:39 AM
Hmm, I don't know why, but I go through SRJL's more often than once a season. Actually, I will go though a set about once every 3 weekends. For my personal preference, I think SRJL's and Carbon Lorraine's are the best.
Title: Re: Brake Pads - EBC vs. Vesrah?
Post by: Steviebee on March 30, 2006, 07:25:46 PM
my bit on brakes.

EBC's    --  Great  last several race weekends, but need lot of lever grip strength.  Horrible that you have to break them in or there useless.

RJL,  no break in.  drop in and go.!  flawless,  but they only would last 1 or 2 race weekends for me. not alot of grip needed!

SRJL,  AWSOME same as RJL but last longer,   drop in and go.  no questions asked,  last several race weekends.  i pay the premium for these.

My choice is SRJL.     for my super heavy 2000 gsxr 750

Iv'e only tried these three.

And dont get me wrong all three i could lift the rear tire on brakeing when the pads were working correclty.
Title: Re: Brake Pads - EBC vs. Vesrah?
Post by: endoracing on May 08, 2006, 10:41:19 PM
is the almost double price of srjl over rjl's worth it as far as how long they last?
Title: Re: Brake Pads - EBC vs. Vesrah?
Post by: Clarkie on May 09, 2006, 12:28:03 AM
I have always used either EBC or Ferodo pads and they are both awesome, lots of initial bite which i have always liked.

this year i switch bikes, tires, locations, and brake pads, i am using the SBS Dual Carbon race pads and I am surprised how much i like them, they dont have the bite i was used to but the make up for it in stopping power and feel.  the carbon pads actually transfer some of the pad material to the disc which make the stopping power even stronger

the 2005 GSXR1000 is notorious for brake fade and destroying pads, so i bought a lightech adjustable (from the left bar) brake lever so i could adjust the lever position on the fly, well after using the SBS Dual carbon pads i think i wasted $300 on a trick brake lever as the pads dont fade at all.

Parts Unlimited is the supplier and Chris Jensen can get pads to you anywhere in the country in a couple of days if you are in a panic, i have changed my entire approach to braking, and it is all for the better  8)
Title: Re: Brake Pads - EBC vs. Vesrah?
Post by: Jeff on May 09, 2006, 09:31:43 AM
Clarkie, are you racing this year?  I don't recall you racing in the past few.  Have you??
Title: Re: Brake Pads - EBC vs. Vesrah?
Post by: Clarkie on May 09, 2006, 09:58:18 AM
yeah moved out to Colorado and racing the MRA and some of the Utah stuff, after spending a LONG time racing twins i have finally learnt how much better the new 1000's have become in the past couple of years.  running the Aprilia against GSXR1000's in Unlimited GP was always hard work, now i know how tough it really was ;)