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Racing Discussion => Racing Discussion => Topic started by: cbr-racer on March 02, 2006, 09:22:12 PM

Title: tire?
Post by: cbr-racer on March 02, 2006, 09:22:12 PM
Is Michelin pilot H2 a good tire?
 :-/I am thinking of going with Michelins instead
of Dunlops. And anyone know who the Michelin
guy is in the mw ? website, phone#.
thanks
Title: Re: tire?
Post by: Super Dave on March 03, 2006, 04:01:15 AM
Yeah, I've used the H2 rear racing quite a bit.  But it's the "old" design tire now.

The H2 front is not a tire to be used on the race track.

In the Midwest region, Tom Mason is the Michelin guy.  http://www.masonracintires.com

He will be at Daytona working until about March 12th.
Title: Re: tire?
Post by: cbr-racer on March 03, 2006, 10:56:06 AM
Thanks or the info Super Dave. :)
Title: Re: tire?
Post by: ssduc750 on March 06, 2006, 12:53:26 PM
What's wrong with the front tire if I may ask? ???
Title: Re: tire?
Post by: Green_Knight on March 06, 2006, 02:05:45 PM
Who is the midwest Bridgestone guy?
Title: Re: tire?
Post by: Super Dave on March 06, 2006, 06:28:14 PM
QuoteWhat's wrong with the front tire if I may ask? ???


The H2 front is a "highway tire".  Not really appropriate for a brisk track day.

The H2 rear is a medium/soft product that was between the standard S2 and M2 rear.
Title: Re: tire?
Post by: Super Dave on March 06, 2006, 06:30:03 PM
QuoteWho is the midwest Bridgestone guy?


I don't think there is one anymore because the distribution channels really messed with the guys trying to build the product.

They have scrapped their AMA support.

Longevity hasn't been very good.  The Pirelli might have better longevity.  The Dunlop and the Michelin, what I use, are going to have even better longevity.
Title: Re: tire?
Post by: Green_Knight on March 06, 2006, 07:29:15 PM
Might have to set the bike up for the Michelins then...  Isn't the front Pilot Race taller than the front BT-002?

How is the front Pilot Race?  I've heard the BT-002 has a better front and Pilot Race has a better rear.
Title: Re: tire?
Post by: ccs56 on March 08, 2006, 09:26:50 AM
Bridgestone vendors for gp&mw regions do exist.
MW-City garage(ask for Scott)314-588-0555
GP-Track Addix(Dean Rumfola)303-506-5759

SUPER DAVE!
There is no shame in not having the answer,but there
is in thinking you always have the answer..........
Title: Re: tire?
Post by: Super Dave on March 08, 2006, 01:25:22 PM
What's your point?  Just a dig?

Never admitted I have all the answers.  

Seldom ever gave answers, but experiences.  Those are different.
Title: Re: tire?
Post by: Super Dave on March 08, 2006, 01:28:45 PM
QuoteMight have to set the bike up for the Michelins then...  Isn't the front Pilot Race taller than the front BT-002?

How is the front Pilot Race?  I've heard the BT-002 has a better front and Pilot Race has a better rear.

Pilot Race was a very bizzare tire in most of 2005.  By the middle of 2005, we started to see the new version, which will be called the PR-C.  

Which BT is which?  I don't really know anymore.  The last batch that I was around, the Bridgestone race tire and the Michelin Race tires were similar in their heights, 2004.  The Pilot Power Sport was shorter in the front and taller in the back compared to those tires.  

The Pilot Race is now even shorter in the front and taller in the back...more like the Dunlop and Pirelli.

That give you some ideas, Aaron.
Title: Re: tire?
Post by: PolishPete on March 21, 2006, 05:15:23 PM
I don't mean to steal a thread, but figured I'd just ask here instead of starting a new thread.  What do you guys recommend for an SV that would be a good setup.  New to racing so I wouldn't be pushing them to hard, but want to make sure they'll stick well none the less.  Any suggestions?
Title: Re: tire?
Post by: Super Dave on March 22, 2006, 04:18:52 AM
Yeah, new to racing means that you need a tire with excelent grip because you're gonna make more mistakes that someone who's raced a bit more.  Your errors can be more costly.  

I use Michelins.  Locally the race tire distribution it through Tom Mason, who's a wealth of knowledge and great guy.

http://www.masonracintires.com

His phone number can be found there too.  I'd recommend just giving him a call to see what will be the new stuff available for this year and to gain knowledge.  Every year, tires change a bit.  Tom can sit down with you on the phone and give you some guidance.  I hope that helps, Pete.
Title: Re: tire?
Post by: Jeff on March 22, 2006, 05:05:20 AM
I ran the bridgestones last year with great results.  Running them again this year as well, and will achieve even better results.

Lifespan is equal to that of a pirelli.  My team-mate runs Pirelli's and was on basically the exact same swap schedule as I was.

Michelins seem to last longer, but would take a different setup (Mich front was shorter and both front-rear were 1-2mm narrower across usable tread).

Haven't tried any dunlops since 2004.

Bridgestone does have distributors.  Although, I don't know that they're going to be trackside.  They did scrap their AMA program after 2005 to focus more on the club efforts.

In props to Mason, a good RELIABLE, KNOWLEDGABLE tire man is definitely worth your time/money unless you can find a way around it using other professionals.  Tom is there every weekend and knows what he is doing.  While I don't run his tires, I would have NO problems recommending him to anyone.