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Racing Discussion => Racing Discussion => Topic started by: dicatirider944 on November 19, 2005, 07:41:02 AM

Title: Winterize surprise
Post by: dicatirider944 on November 19, 2005, 07:41:02 AM
I have an 01' GSX-R 750.  I went to winterize it and change the oil.  When I removed the drain plug I was left a litte surprise.  About 1/2 the threads came out with the drain plug.  Has this happend to anyone else?  I have two options I was considering. I was thinking about helicoiling the pan but was wondering if oil would seep through the helicoil? or option two was to remove the pan drill it out and retap it for a larger drain plug, but didn't know if there was enough meat to the pan to do either of these.  Any suggestions???
Title: Re: Winterize surprise
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on November 19, 2005, 09:49:38 AM
Use thread sealer on the helicoil when you install it into the pan.  Take the pan off and drill for the helicoil on a drill press, to be sure that the helicoil threads are absolutely square to the machined edge that the sealing washer for the drain plug rides against.  
Oh, wait....  Actually, the bike is ruined.  I'll give you $200 for it, just to be helpful. ;D
Title: Re: Winterize surprise
Post by: Super Dave on November 19, 2005, 10:28:10 AM
QuoteI Any suggestions???

Don't change the oil...




We're really full of it today....

LOL, well, not just today...
Title: Re: Winterize surprise
Post by: dicatirider944 on November 19, 2005, 11:15:39 AM
Quote 
Oh, wait....  Actually, the bike is ruined.  I'll give you $200 for it, just to be helpful. ;D

Chris......Cool, but you have to throw in an autographed copy of highside saying "Brad is a god to the motorcyle racing community!" LMAO
Title: Re: Winterize surprise
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on November 19, 2005, 11:32:11 AM
QuoteChris......Cool, but you have to throw in an autographed copy of highside saying "Brad is a god to the motorcyle racing community!" LMAO
DEAL!  I have the book and the sharpie.  There's gas in the truck, and the trailer is ready to roll.  I'll pick up the $200 at an ATM on the way.  I can leave RIGHT NOW!  What was your address again?
 ;D
Title: Re: Winterize surprise
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on November 19, 2005, 11:38:03 AM
Man, I miss my 2000 750 a ton.  Last night, my wife and I went to see the new Harry Potter movie.  The summoning charm keyword is "Azzio."  For example, Harry wants his broomstick, so he says "Azzio Firebolt!"  All day long, I've been walking around the house saying, "Azzio Gixxer!"  No bike so far, but I HAVE managed to thoroughly annoy the wife....
Title: Re: Winterize surprise
Post by: Woofentino Pugrossi on November 20, 2005, 12:51:57 AM
Hot glue is your best friend. ;D
Title: Re: Winterize surprise
Post by: Jeff on November 20, 2005, 05:44:48 AM
A new OEM oil pan is less than $100...

I'd try to find one used for $20 and then go the new route if I had to.  But that's just me.  ::)
Title: Re: Winterize surprise
Post by: TommyG on November 20, 2005, 06:18:51 AM
QuoteA new OEM oil pan is less than $100...

I'd try to find one used for $20 and then go the new route if I had to.  But that's just me.  ::)
I agree with Jeff. If I was a tech inspector and saw any sign of drain plug repair, you`d be going for a refund!!
Title: Re: Winterize surprise
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on November 20, 2005, 06:26:46 AM
QuoteI agree with Jeff. If I was a tech inspector and saw any sign of drain plug repair, you`d be going for a refund!!
Or you could properly repair the pan with a helicoil, which into an aluminum pan would be stronger than original.... ::)
Title: Re: Winterize surprise
Post by: dicatirider944 on November 20, 2005, 06:55:18 AM
QuoteA new OEM oil pan is less than $100...

I'd try to find one used for $20 and then go the new route if I had to.  But that's just me.  ::)
Didn't realize I could get one this cheap.  This sounds like the best option.  I will check ebay for a stolen one!  Any other places I should check?
Title: Re: Winterize surprise
Post by: TommyG on November 20, 2005, 07:21:09 AM
Anyone that builds motors has guys coming in with blown apart cases which usually results in extra parts.
Check with greg moon. 414 716 0005   10-6
Last time I was there I know he had one. Check oem cost first so you know a good used price.
Title: Re: Winterize surprise
Post by: fourandsix on November 20, 2005, 07:49:09 AM
Helicoils are not that good in an Oil pan. A timesert is much better. The only problem most oil pans are made in such a way that there is not enough material around the drain hole to make a good repair.They are generally relieved so the oil will drain properly. Find a used pan or get a new one! Jim
Title: Re: Winterize surprise
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on November 20, 2005, 08:11:44 AM
QuoteHelicoils are not that good in an Oil pan. A timesert is much better. The only problem most oil pans are made in such a way that there is not enough material around the drain hole to make a good repair.They are generally relieved so the oil will drain properly. Find a used pan or get a new one! Jim
Though I have used helicoils with success in oil pan repair, I stand corrected.  Jim has surely dealt with this problem more times than I have!
Title: Re: Winterize surprise
Post by: Thingy on November 20, 2005, 11:53:09 AM
K3, you forgot one other option.  We just need to call Lonnie.  With all of the GSX-Rs and blown motors that he has, he might have something.

Running up to his place to grab a spare pan would give me an excuse to return his generator.  and steering damper... I wonder what else I have of his?