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Racing Discussion => Racing Discussion => Topic started by: Fat_Nate on September 17, 2005, 09:57:06 AM

Title: The next bike for LWGP/LWSS/LWSK?
Post by: Fat_Nate on September 17, 2005, 09:57:06 AM
I saw this and wondered if it might be the next SV?  Who knows just yet . . .

"One of the new bikes that got most of the attention at the show was the sporty Ninja 650R streetbike. It's powered by a parallel twin, 8-valve four-stroke motor, and uses a 41mm conventional fork and a not-so-conventional off-set lay-down single-shock suspension system. It carries a $6299 price tag."

http://www.cyclenews.com/ShowStory.asp?HeadlineID=8251
Title: Re: The next bike for LWGP/LWSS/LWSK?
Post by: Ridgeway on September 17, 2005, 10:03:24 AM
Viable SV competetion maybe.  I don't see anything in the specs that necessarily screams "faster than an SV"

It would be cool to see some more variety on the grid.
Title: Re: The next bike for LWGP/LWSS/LWSK?
Post by: roadracer162 on September 17, 2005, 02:00:04 PM
Vote for my '91 FZR600. I will run GT lights if they let me.

Mark
Title: Re: The next bike for LWGP/LWSS/LWSK?
Post by: andy342 on September 17, 2005, 09:09:42 PM
Looks like the shock on a KTM.  

No idea why the frame's red, though.  Maybe so if the bike stinks people won't know it's a Kawi.

If they pay contingency on it I imagine they'll sell pretty well.
Title: Re: The next bike for LWGP/LWSS/LWSK?
Post by: Super Dave on September 18, 2005, 05:17:08 AM
QuoteIf they pay contingency on it I imagine they'll sell pretty well.


Yup, now you're talkin'...
Title: Re: The next bike for LWGP/LWSS/LWSK?
Post by: Jeff on September 18, 2005, 05:40:04 AM
Honda has also released a new mini-motorcycle.  The NSP (or NPS, I forget) 100.  It's basically the NSR-50 with double the motor...

The only downfall on it is that it has those goofy sized wheels that you can't get a decent race tire for.
Title: Re: The next bike for LWGP/LWSS/LWSK?
Post by: Super Dave on September 18, 2005, 06:01:38 AM
QuoteVote for my '91 FZR600. I will run GT lights if they let me.

Mark

Never happen.

FZR600's made more power than CBR600F2's in Supersport trim.  My F2 made 93 in 1993.  Thunderbike is appropriate...or middleweight.
Title: Re: The next bike for LWGP/LWSS/LWSK?
Post by: Super Dave on September 18, 2005, 06:02:24 AM
QuoteHonda has also released a new mini-motorcycle.  The NSP (or NPS, I forget) 100.  It's basically the NSR-50 with double the motor...

The only downfall on it is that it has those goofy sized wheels that you can't get a decent race tire for.

Probably cheaper to buy a used 125 GP bike.
Title: Re: The next bike for LWGP/LWSS/LWSK?
Post by: PJ721 on September 18, 2005, 08:24:03 AM
http://www.kawasaki.ca/2006_model_update_ninja.html#ninja650r

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/31august05_2006kawasaki_ninja650r.htm

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=23884
Title: Re: The next bike for LWGP/LWSS/LWSK?
Post by: andy342 on September 18, 2005, 01:21:05 PM
QuoteYup, now you're talkin'...

I'll find out who to ask on Monday.
Hopefully it'll pay the same as the 600 and 1000.

Title: Re: The next bike for LWGP/LWSS/LWSK?
Post by: Bernie on September 18, 2005, 08:03:31 PM
A little variety and more competition would be nice.
Title: Re: The next bike for LWGP/LWSS/LWSK?
Post by: Super Dave on September 19, 2005, 05:30:23 AM
QuoteI'll find out who to ask on Monday.
Hopefully it'll pay the same as the 600 and 1000.


I would doubt it.  Would be nice, but I can't see the margin of profit or the volume in sales to be better.

As for being better for the class...  As it is now, it's almost a spec class, which is nice.  Lots of information available, lots of parts available.  I think it's good as it is.  
Title: Re: The next bike for LWGP/LWSS/LWSK?
Post by: Jeff on September 19, 2005, 06:02:40 AM
QuoteProbably cheaper to buy a used 125 GP bike.

True...  will be looking for one late winter / early spring...  8)
Title: Re: The next bike for LWGP/LWSS/LWSK?
Post by: ekraft84 on September 20, 2005, 05:29:22 AM
I recently read in a magazine (Cycle News maybe) that there weren't any plans currently to bring Kawi's 650 into the states, which is a bummer.

Title: Re: The next bike for LWGP/LWSS/LWSK?
Post by: grasshopper on September 20, 2005, 06:30:59 AM
I wonder if the torque on the parallel twin is comparable to that on the SV.

Would the torque be more up top on the parallel compared to down low on the V.

I just can't see that thing being better than an SV
Title: Re: The next bike for LWGP/LWSS/LWSK?
Post by: Super Dave on September 20, 2005, 07:12:25 AM
The bike was shown at the Kawasaki USA dealer show...
Title: Re: The next bike for LWGP/LWSS/LWSK?
Post by: Fat_Nate on September 20, 2005, 09:01:48 AM
QuoteI just can't see that thing being better than an SV

Probably not . . . but it will be neat if it has a 15,000 rpm redline.