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Title: Tentative 2003 VRS Dates...
Post by: Super Dave on November 21, 2002, 02:13:35 AM
Visionsports Riding Schools (VRS) are for amateur and expert racers, new racers, and sport riders.  We work pretty hard with you, as some of you know, to try to help you out and make this all a bit easier.

Special pricing for enrolling early, riders that already have a license, and for riders that have attended a VRS program before.  Many racers enroll in all for schools.  There is special pricing for that program also.

For more information, you can go to http://www.team-visionsports.com

Contact me directly about pricing for all four programs.

The tentative dates at the newly repaved Blackhawk Farms Raceway in Rockton, IL:

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I am available for one on one and group work on your day at your track.

Drop me a note if you have any questions.

visionsprt@netwurx.net

"Super" Dave Rosno
Visionsports Riding Schools
Title: Re: Tentative 2003 VRS Dates...
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on November 21, 2002, 04:12:20 AM
Visionsports sucks.  Rosno's an idiot.  It's a waste of money.  Better to spend the money on a Second Look seat skin or something.  Don't go there.  PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DON'T GO THERE!!!!!!!!b][/b]

C'mon, Dave!  The whole point of my taking your school is so I can beat people.  If you advertise, they'll come too, and then I won't have an advantage.  I thought we'd discussed this before...) ;)
K3
Title: Re: Tentative 2003 VRS Dates...
Post by: dave333 on November 21, 2002, 09:31:53 AM
Hey SD,

I alternate between being erraticly fast and stupid slow.  I Take T10 so fast at BHF I almost always wind up off the track.  I took T2 so slow at Gingerman last year I could have gotten off and walked faster.  Oh yeah, I hate right hand turns and I crash a lot.  Can you help me?


Perv NOTE:

Erratic - unpredictable, without pattern, having no fixed or regular course; wandering.  
Title: Re: Tentative 2003 VRS Dates...
Post by: EX#996 on November 21, 2002, 09:42:53 AM
QuoteI Take T10 so fast at BHF I almost always wind up off the track.  


Um...  Corner 10 at BHF's is the store.  I would certianly hope that it would be located off the track   :o

Just teasing...  Are you talking about corner 7 just before you head up the front straight?

Dawn   :)
Title: Re: Tentative 2003 VRS Dates...
Post by: dave333 on November 21, 2002, 09:53:40 AM
Oh boy.  I meant 7 ::)  Good catch!!!

It was T10 at Putnam that introduced me to crashing.  That has kinda stuck in my mind as THE turn to the front straight.  

And SD,

I can't remember the turn #'s at race tracks.  Ya got anything for that?  
Title: Re: Tentative 2003 VRS Dates...
Post by: Super Dave on November 21, 2002, 10:48:53 AM
Uh, take lots of vitamins...

Really, though, can we help?  I would think so.  Sometimes it's just a matter of looking at the problem dynamically.  It might be in your body position, it might be the rear ride height, it might be just about anything.  

But if we have a directed thing that we're trying to over come....well, that's half the battle.  

Often times, curing one problem or concern fixes a whole lot of other things.  Then other problems surface.  On to that one.  

I'd be we can help.
Title: Re: Tentative 2003 VRS Dates...
Post by: dave333 on November 21, 2002, 03:43:21 PM
BTW, SD, I am serious about hating right turns and crashing a lot.  (Would you believe I have only crashed coming out of right hand turns???)  If my bike is together by May I would really like to check out your school up at BHF.  What does it run dollar wise?  What is the schedule?  Is it just one day or is it multiple days?  Do you have bikes you rent or is it strictly byob?  Thanks...
Title: Re: Tentative 2003 VRS Dates...
Post by: EX#996 on November 21, 2002, 04:13:27 PM
QuoteBTW, SD, I am serious about hating right turns and crashing a lot.  (Would you believe I have only crashed coming out of right hand turns???)  If my bike is together by May I would really like to check out your school up at BHF.  What does it run dollar wise?  What is the schedule?  Is it just one day or is it multiple days?  Do you have bikes you rent or is it strictly byob?  Thanks...

Hey Dave333..

Click on his web address listed in his signature line.  His site will answer all your questions.

Dawn   ;)
Title: Re: Tentative 2003 VRS Dates...
Post by: dave333 on November 21, 2002, 04:25:59 PM
Hey Dawn,

My motives for asking here are two-fold.  first to get the info.  second, to give SD a chance to talk a little about his school here.  My questions are sincere, I will take another school next spring.  I took schwantz this year and got better.  I wonder if SD can follow Kev's act of riding so sneaky fast that the photographer following and filming him runs off the track...
Title: Re: Tentative 2003 VRS Dates...
Post by: Gixxer124 on November 21, 2002, 04:27:47 PM
Dave, I know what's happening. In a right hand turn, your throttle hand is on the bottom and your holding yourself on the bike with it. QUIT TWISTING IT! ;D ;D Use your leg to help hold yourself on. Just a thought. Later, Kevin
Title: Re: Tentative 2003 VRS Dates...
Post by: dave333 on November 21, 2002, 04:37:56 PM
What about grip it and rip it?   ;D
Title: Re: Tentative 2003 VRS Dates...
Post by: Super Dave on November 21, 2002, 05:28:31 PM
Cost?  OK, if you've never been to my school and you sign up late, like six days to the day of and there is space available, $265.  If you've got a license from CCS, NESBA, WERA, AHRMA, AMA Pro Dirt Track, or even a certificate from another school, same time frame, $235.  Finally, if you've been to my school and you didn't enroll early, again, $205.

I get the enrollment at least seven days early, take off $15.

Two weeks before, $30 off.

And get it to me four weeks prior, save $45.  

Enroll early, save money, period.

I do have programs for those who would like to do all four schools up front.  Some more savings there.  Not a lot as it still costs a good amount to rent the track, pay the corner workers, print the materials, pay the insurance, etc.  I've lost a whole lot of money not having enough people come.  Just trying, and trying to get the word out.

After you come, you can have may ear for suspension consultations for free during race weekends.  If I'm at a track day, and no one has bought me for personal tutoring, I'm yours too.

As for right hand turn problems...

Hard to give you an answer exactly what it is.  Can be a lot of things.  I do better in lefts, myself.  I think I understand why.  There can be a whole list of reasons, we'd just have to start by watching and seeing what you do.  Sometimes it can be a suspension thing, but again, I'd need to see it.

Sometimes it can be as simple as foot postion.  

When you say you crash coming out, do you mean highside or low side?
Title: Re: Tentative 2003 VRS Dates...
Post by: dave333 on November 21, 2002, 06:15:16 PM
QuoteWhen you say you crash coming out, do you mean highside or low side?

Thanks for all the good info.  In answer to your question, YES.  One wicked high side and the rest low sides.  Usually right after I put a couple of good laps down...

AND...

We certainly don't need to figure it out over the internet.  I can wait 'til may..
Title: Re: Tentative 2003 VRS Dates...
Post by: Gixxer124 on November 21, 2002, 07:41:53 PM
What? Your not going to take a first year racers advice? :( OK. You ought to let the experts handle this one. ;D ;D Hi Dave.
Title: Re: Tentative 2003 VRS Dates...
Post by: Super Dave on November 22, 2002, 04:04:08 AM
Quote One wicked high side and the rest low sides.  Usually right after I put a couple of good laps down...

AND...

We certainly don't need to figure it out over the internet.  I can wait 'til may..

Enroll for the school you want to early enough that we can start working together at the beginning of the year.  It might be a bike related issue in there.  We can start there even before you come to an actual "class".
Title: Re: Tentative 2003 VRS Dates...
Post by: Eddie#200 on November 22, 2002, 05:13:30 AM
If you enroll as early as today will it be free or will you pay me? ;D