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Title: My first E-bay transaction thats gone awry....
Post by: EX#996 on March 23, 2005, 06:51:44 PM
I started putting out feelers on the WERA board because they have more members from this seller's area.  Here you can read all about it....

http://forums.13x.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74193&perpage=15&pagenumber=1

I guess I can chalk this up to a learning opportunity as to how the resolution program works.

Dawn
Title: Re: My first E-bay transaction thats gone awry....
Post by: Woofentino Pugrossi on March 23, 2005, 07:46:45 PM
One reason I would do a Prt Scr (save a screen picture) of the ebay ad if you buy something. Tell him go ahead and file charges. You can file some of your own, namely fraud.

Wouldnt it be ashamed if he got blackballed from every track and org? ;D

Title: Re: My first E-bay transaction thats gone awry....
Post by: spyderchick on March 23, 2005, 08:12:59 PM
Dawn, how did you pay? Paypal has a resolution center as well. If you paid w/ a credit card there's always the issuer resolution center.

Sorry you had such a bad experience. Make sure you leave negative feedback for this a$$wipe.
Title: Re: My first E-bay transaction thats gone awry....
Post by: EM JAY on March 24, 2005, 03:24:00 AM
 Sorry to hear about that Dawn.  Hence my post about anyone knowing Joseph Hoffman... ;)

  Hope it gets fixed right for you.
Title: Re: My first E-bay transaction thats gone awry....
Post by: EX#996 on March 24, 2005, 03:30:22 AM
Heh... Heh.... Heh....

I got pictures and e-mails.  The dude has no chance.   ;D

We've done LOTS of transactions over the internet (although not as many as Kaufalk) and this is the first one with a problem.  I'm not to worried.

Dawn   ;)
Title: Re: My first E-bay transaction thats gone awry....
Post by: Jeff on March 24, 2005, 03:57:03 AM
PayPal is a huge help here.  

If you don't pay via paypal, surf around and look up mail fraud.  I forget the amount, but it's not very large when it becomes a felony.

The term "felony mail fraud" tends to get people moving...

I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt "hey, you might not have seen this damage, or you aren't real familiar with these parts, but they are pretty bad.  You can either give me all my money back or give me a partial refund because I only would have paid xxxx".

Here's what I enjoy doing:

http://www.cbr600rr.com/vinylconcepts.htm

I posted that link in a negative feedback on ebay.  The guy called me within like 10 hours and said he was on vacation, yada yada yada...  Gave me the partial refund I wanetd, let me keep the part AND paid for me to remove the negative feedback...
Title: Re: My first E-bay transaction thats gone awry....
Post by: Clarkie on March 24, 2005, 04:52:36 AM
Dont trust Paypal to help you out if you get screwed

I bought an exhaust and got shipped a box with a bag of plaster in it :rolleyes:   F*CK Paypal, they said that because i bought something and signed for a package they considered the transaction was over  >:(

the same exhaust was sold to 6 different people,  but at least i didnt get shipped a bag of bird seed like some other poor bastard   ;D

and Jeff, it was the guy i said and he is a compulsive lying sack of shit that got busted and used you and your forum to help clear his rep  ;)
Title: Re: My first E-bay transaction thats gone awry....
Post by: Jeff on March 24, 2005, 05:21:48 AM
QuoteDont trust Paypal to help you out if you get screwed

They have changed policies a lot, and regardless of PayPal, when I reverse the charges on my credit card, there's fine little that PayPal can do on it.

Quoteand Jeff, it was the guy i said and he is a compulsive lying sack of shit that got busted and used you and your forum to help clear his rep  ;)

I'm still not confident that it was the same person.  The dude on my forum readily gave me all of his contact information, and sent me 2 sets of perfect tire warmers, completely unpaid for exactly as advertised...

And I still won't vouch for the guy other than that he did follow through on the one transaction, exactly as promised...  :-/
Title: Re: My first E-bay transaction thats gone awry....
Post by: EX#996 on March 25, 2005, 05:10:38 AM
Well, I promised you some pictures so here you go...

This is the picture off the E-bay ad:

(https://www.ccsforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffrontiernet.net%2F%7Ebuxton%2FSRAD_e-bay.jpg&hash=e5127cff777b873c1be1b07a38e072bed93e4322)

Can you say, "Oooooo...... Pretty!"   ;D  Obviously SRAD forks.

This is what I got:

(https://www.ccsforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffrontiernet.net%2F%7Ebuxton%2FBordon_1.JPG&hash=d65adfc943f63cd02e2ee5398fa2db4a3127cf58)

(https://www.ccsforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffrontiernet.net%2F%7Ebuxton%2FBordon_2.JPG&hash=ac6d737792d9478d592e231b59caa4b3a6c33f26)

Himm.... Not the same forks.

It was funny, through his screaming on the phone to me he goes, "Didn't you look at the picture?"

I said, "Yes I did, the picture shows SRAD forks and these are late model."

He said, "SRAD are junk.... blah, blah, blah, blah....  They are the same forks as in the picture."

"No they are not, the fender mount is different, the caliper mounts are different, the end caps are blue instead of silver, and even the pinch bolts are missing."

By then he was so off his rocker I hung up on the bastard.

Dawn

Title: Re: My first E-bay transaction thats gone awry....
Post by: EX#996 on March 25, 2005, 05:14:52 AM
OK everyone,

Help me out here on how to post pictures so that they're not gigantous.

Thanks
Title: Re: My first E-bay transaction thats gone awry....
Post by: Protein Filled on March 25, 2005, 05:56:40 AM
You need to resize it inside a graphics program, IE: photoshop, PaintShop Pro, Paint, etc.

Paint comes with all versions of windows, so you should have it on you pc. Click on  Start/Programs/Accessories/Paint and then select "File/Open" and open the picture. Then select the "Image/Stretch" menu and where in the boxes where it says "stretch", enter the percentage you wish to make it smaller. IE, if you want it to be half the size, enter "50" in both the Horizontal and the Vertical entry box...
Title: Re: My first E-bay transaction thats gone awry....
Post by: Woofentino Pugrossi on March 25, 2005, 06:59:30 AM
I dont have a clue with suzuki forks, but I even can tell thoses arent the same forks in the original picture. ;D
Title: Re: My first E-bay transaction thats gone awry....
Post by: Gixxerblade on March 25, 2005, 01:44:55 PM
Heard a new word the other day: Gi-normous!
LOL
Title: Re: My first E-bay transaction thats gone awry....
Post by: EX#996 on March 26, 2005, 06:14:37 PM
LOL!!!

Just to prove my point that seller's don't always know what they have or what they're selling...

Check this out, the seller say these are '96 forks...  They sure look late model to me?

http://www.gixxer.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=978&sort=1&cat=all&page=1

You would think that since he owned the bike and purchased these as spares, he would have noticed the difference.

 ;D
Title: Re: My first E-bay transaction thats gone awry....
Post by: Woofentino Pugrossi on March 26, 2005, 08:08:34 PM
QuoteLOL!!!

Just to prove my point that seller's don't always know what they have or what they're selling...

Check this out, the seller say these are '96 forks...  They sure look late model to me?

http://www.gixxer.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=978&sort=1&cat=all&page=1

You would think that since he owned the bike and purchased these as spares, he would have noticed the difference.

 ;D

And on a GSXR specific site no less. ;D
Title: Re: My first E-bay transaction thats gone awry....
Post by: Jeff on March 27, 2005, 05:35:53 AM
I sell all sorts of things that I have little or no information about.  Some of them I don't know what specific bikes they will go to, etc.  Case in point recently were a pair of Valkyrie Interstate tanks.  They looked exactly like the ones in othe auctions, so I advertised that they looked exactly like the others.

I didn't realize it, but these things were worth like $1k each.  I was immediately flooded with emails saying they "were this" and "were not this", etc...  I took a BUNCH of measurements and numerous pics and commented based on the information I had found, then told the bidders it was THEIR responsibility to ensure it was what they were looking for.

In the end, it worked out great.  2 high dollar tanks sold, 2 happy customers...

My long winded point?  You don't have to know what you're selling as long as you are an attentive seller...
Title: Re: My first E-bay transaction thats gone awry....
Post by: EX#996 on March 27, 2005, 06:15:32 AM
Exactly Jeff....

That's why I buy the picture (as long as there's no disclaimer under it), not necessarily the description.

 ;)
Title: Re: My first E-bay transaction thats gone awry....
Post by: Jeff on March 28, 2005, 05:37:08 AM
QuoteExactly Jeff....

That's why I buy the picture (as long as there's no disclaimer under it), not necessarily the description.

 ;)


Yep, which is understandbly why you were tweaked...
Title: Re: My first E-bay transaction thats gone awry....
Post by: Clarkie on April 07, 2005, 02:02:02 PM
QuoteI'm still not confident that it was the same person.  The dude on my forum readily gave me all of his contact information, and sent me 2 sets of perfect tire warmers, completely unpaid for exactly as advertised...

And I still won't vouch for the guy other than that he did follow through on the one transaction, exactly as promised...  :-/

It seems the FBI would disagree with you Jeff, the guy is being investigated to see how many people he has actually ripped off  8)
Title: Re: My first E-bay transaction thats gone awry....
Post by: Jeff on April 07, 2005, 02:09:05 PM
QuoteIt seems the FBI would disagree with you Jeff, the guy is being investigated to see how many people he has actually ripped off  8)

Well, cool.  I hope you get something out of him.  I just can't belive someone would actually defraud people and make their contact information (working home & cell numbers and actual verified physical residence address) available...
Title: Re: My first E-bay transaction thats gone awry....
Post by: Clarkie on April 07, 2005, 02:24:50 PM
Even his father is a compulsive lier, he told me he was a police sargent and the FBI person i talked to laughed her ass off and said he was only a councilman  ::)

I think with the warmers he was trying to proove his innocence pubicly but hey if a couple of guys got warmers cheap good stuff :)
Title: Re: My first E-bay transaction thats gone awry....
Post by: Jeff on April 07, 2005, 02:49:38 PM
Either that or I fenced a couple sets of warmers that were hot whether plugged in or not...  :-/
Title: Re: My first E-bay transaction thats gone awry....
Post by: Dawn on May 10, 2005, 12:57:00 PM
I may have been the first he screwed over, but I certainly wasn't the last.....

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=outkastz6

I'm just waiting for my refund now....  

 ;)