So . . .
The "new" Dunlops for my SV650 are D207GPs. I like them, they slide predictably, they are great -- they are ancient and outdated? They are selling me 207s when there are 208s and 209s out there? Is it that the 208s and 209s are not made in the little nancy boy size that is appropriate to my bike? Or am I a sucker?
I can only wonder how great and long-lasting the 209s are compared to the 207s.
Nate
and the answer is...Pirelli! ;D
(sorry Nate couldn't stop myself)
Oh, I knew what YOUR answer would be, Peter Pirelli.
I could be wrong but I think I ran a 207on the front and a 208 on the rear of my sv650 .
I was just checking that out Nate. I went to www.dunlopmotorcycle.com and clicked on Fitment. They have D208's for SV's. You still shoud use Pirelli's ;D
STOP THE MADNESS!!!!
Okay, okay, maybe that's a little dramatic.
Anyway...I used the Dunlops last year. I am back on Pirellis this season. The profile for the 160 Dunlop is EXTREMELY different from the profile of a 160 Pirelli.
I have found that the I am much more comfortable on the Pirellis.
Now mind you...I do understand that tire choice is a very personal decision and it would inappropriate to say that there aren't people running Dunlops on SV's and having success HOWEVER, it would seem that most of the people on SV's run Pirellis and I think you have to ask yourself why that is.
Another thing to keep in mind, I am not a guy who is just grandstanding for his sponsor...
(not that there is anything wrong with that)
I have stood on both sides of this particular fence and I am back on the Pirellis.
Your call Dude...
hey Pete, we should try the new Michelins...Darrin said they're the shizznit. ;D
(waters muddied...)
QuoteSTOP THE MADNESS!!!!
The profile for the 160 Dunlop is EXTREMELY different from the profile of a 160 Pirelli.
Can you elaborate?
He's talking about the profile of the tire, which means that some tires are "pointier" while others have a more gentle crown. It affects the steering such as way the bike will drop into your lean angle when taking a corner. The profile between brand can happen too, say between Brand A's slicks and DOT race compounded tires. It's really imortant to get feedback from racers who have raced the exact tire you plan to run.
QuoteI could be wrong but I think I ran a 207on the front and a 208 on the rear of my sv650 .
other way around., we run a 208 on the front and a 207 on the rear., they do not make the 208 in a 160 size.....
dunlops rule.........:)
The 207 Dunlop for the SV was really a 208. Dunlop didn't want to spend the money on a new mold. So what you are getting is a 208 carcass and rubber compound put into the old mold.
Okay -- so I'm running 208s, but there are 209s out there somewhere?
Also -- I understand that the profiles are different, but is the Dunlop round and the Pirelli pointy, or the other way around?
For what it's worth, I like the Dunlops a lot, but either they wear faster than the Pirellis, or Moroso is harder on tires than Homestead.
The Pirelli is the "pointier" of the two.
It is also a "taller" tire, which gives your SV a wee bit more ride height.
Bret...Did you mention the "M" word?
QuoteOkay -- so I'm running 208s, but there are 209s out there somewhere?
Also -- I understand that the profiles are different, but is the Dunlop round and the Pirelli pointy, or the other way around?
For what it's worth, I like the Dunlops a lot, but either they wear faster than the Pirellis, or Moroso is harder on tires than Homestead.
The Dunlop's are supposed to be rounder, sort of a crap shoot as to what you will get though. ;D I run the 160's Pirelli's on my Aprilia Nate and I get 3-4 race weekends depending on practice time and time between races. Besides being a better tire, (IMHO) running Pirelli has several advantages. They payout regardless of number of starters on the grid. I made $1200 in Pirelli money my first year as a novice. Only $400 would have been paid by any other tire company given the same finishes due to small grids. The support at the track has been about perfect. And, as I alluded to in the first line, consistent quality. Granted I didn't give Dunlop much of a chance, but after 2 out of the 5 fronts I bought were severely out of round I gave up. I've been though 28 Pirelli's in a year and a half and none of them were anything less than incredible.
QuoteI've been though 28 Pirelli's in a year and a half and none of them were anything less than incredible.
Okay, but aside from the big contingency money, excellent trackside service, and incredible performance, really are they any better?
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QuoteOkay, but aside from the big contingency money, excellent trackside service, and incredible performance, really are they any better?
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LOL...
Bret I like your WERA avatar better. ;D
QuoteBret I like your WERA avatar better. ;D
so do I...but I'm too stupid to figure out how to have it over here too. :-/