Just got the updated Daytona mailer and CCS said that Ducati 748 can now race in F/USA thunderbike but not the 749. OK great but how about the regular CCS thunderbike class which has almost the same rules, are they or will they allow the 748 in the regular CCS thunder bike class, need to know as Im about to put a 955 motor in my 748 for super twins but I will leave it alone if I can now race thunder bike with it. Someone from CCS please help!! ??? ;D
Unless there's a stated rule change, I'd think the rules remain as they have been.
If you haven't done so already, I suggest that you e-mail Kevin at CCS directly.
Why would a 748 be allowed and not a 749 ??? i don't get it. It's 1 cc of extra motor ???
The Ducati is not allowed in the CCS class.
Dawn ;)
QuoteWhy would a 748 be allowed and not a 749 ??? i don't get it. It's 1 cc of extra motor ???
Chassis...
QuoteChassis...
Sure about that dave, the 749 motor is capable of more power than the 748. The 749 chassie is nothing special at all. What makes you think the chassie is the reason the 749 is not allowed? The 749 should be allowed in SS trim but the 748 stay SBK trim. That would be a good match up.
I have a buddy who bought and built a new Ducati DS 1000 just for Thunderbike. Yikes. He will be bummed that he could have had a 748, probably race ready about the same amount of money.
Isn't the 748 the street version and the 749 the purpose built race bike?
(Honest question guys, I don't know Duc's)
Dawn
No the 749 is the new version (the little brother of the 999)
Here is basic rundown
748 was built as the little brother and middleweight contender for Ducati from the popular 916,996,998 street bikes.
The 748 and the 916 family had various options the base, the S, the R the RS and the SPS non of which was really a race only version just some that were not sold for street use(and US DOT/EPA compliant) in the US (thus race only)
the 749 and 999 replaced the older 748 and 998 new chassis, wheels, motor it was a new motorcycle as opposed to evolution of existing model.
Last post is accurate -- the 749 has the "Testastretta" motor, which is a big step forward. The same step occurred in the larger bikes in the jump from the 996 to the 998. The 998 has the Testasretta, which changed only in some details when the 999 was introduced.
I used to ride a 748, then I got a 998 with the Testastretta (after the 748 was stolen). The Testastretta revs much more quickly and is smoother. That said, the 748 was I think the most fun I've had on a streetbike. It must make an amazing racebike.
Nate
I understand that the 748 is allowed in the fusa class but not allowed in the ccs class and I am not sure why? Is it just a hp thing? And is this the only bike that you can run in fusa thunderbike thats not allowed in ccs thunderbike? Seams weird if this is true? All bikes are controled in fusa by weight and hp but I could run a air cooled ducati or buell that makes alot more hp in ccs but not a 748? Just asking?
Just a little side note, why in the world would you want to race a ducati?! I had one for 4 yrs and i was so happy to get rid of the thing and get abord a SV SBK. Don't get me wrong i had a blast on the thing, but it was hugh MONEY PIT!!!!! :o :( >:( :-[ :'(
Money and racing!! Your kiding right? Ands its a moot point if the only class you can run the Duc. in is Fusa Thunderbike! I will just stick with my cheap Kawasaki ;D
Ok let me be a little bit more exact here. Racing does cost money thats a no brainer, duh, but what i am trying to say is that a ducati cost 2/4x more to repair than any other race bike out there. I had to replace my motor on my duc, and the thing cost me $ 6,000 to fix it., my S.S. SV when i spent the motor $1500 :'( It just seemed to me that everything on that bike cost alot more than a japanese bike, thats why i sold it and got on a SV. The ducati does have the power and what it takes to race it, but if you need to do repairs on it, even little ones, hope you have deep pockets, and a fat check book. ;D Oh well, i'm rambeling here, i guess i'm still salty about the whole situation. >:(
QuoteOk let me be a little bit more exact here. Racing does cost money thats a no brainer, duh, but what i am trying to say is that a ducati cost 2/4x more to repair than any other race bike out there. I had to replace my motor on my duc, and the thing cost me $ 6,000 to fix it., my S.S. SV when i spent the motor $1500 :'( It just seemed to me that everything on that bike cost alot more than a japanese bike, thats why i sold it and got on a SV. The ducati does have the power and what it takes to race it, but if you need to do repairs on it, even little ones, hope you have deep pockets, and a fat check book. ;D Oh well, i'm rambeling here, i guess i'm still salty about the whole situation. >:(
I race a 853 and an sv, I work on the things myself. If I didnt do as much myself as possible I couldnt race either one. I dont even have any decent dealers within a few hours drive. I get most all the parts I can used off e-bay. I have bought enough motor parts for almost 3 complete 748/955 motors. Cost me less than $1500. I aready have a spare frame, tank, bodywork, subframe, exhaust etc for the the ducati. Got it all off e-bay for cheap. If you had to buy all that stuff from a dealer it would break the bank. You can race a ducati if you are smart about it and dont have a brain fart so you crash. :o
So is the 748 allowed in Thunderbike???????
Quote So is the 748 allowed in Thunderbike???????
Formula USA thunderbike yes, CCS thunderbike no. :(
QuoteI race a 853 and an sv, I work on the things myself. If I didnt do as much myself as possible I couldnt race either one. I dont even have any decent dealers within a few hours drive. I get most all the parts I can used off e-bay. I have bought enough motor parts for almost 3 complete 748/955 motors. Cost me less than $1500. I aready have a spare frame, tank, bodywork, subframe, exhaust etc for the the ducati. Got it all off e-bay for cheap. If you had to buy all that stuff from a dealer it would break the bank. You can race a ducati if you are smart about it and dont have a brain fart so you crash. :o
True That !! ;D Didn't even think of trying ebay. ::)
749 should be allowed in both classes. It's simply not fair. I'd spend my money doing it if CCS will allow it. The 749 is so slow we'd just be taking up the rear of the pack anyway, my SV is faster.
Clayton
749 answer
http://www.meccanicacorse.net/gallery/749R-Tech/749R_1
http://www.meccanicacorse.net/gallery/749R-Tech/749R_2
plus the chassis diffences that distinguish it from the other players in the class