This is a link to a LE (law enforcement) forum topic that they are talking about a stunter that crashed and got severely hurt, yet the way these police officers are talking about it is ABSURD!
http://forums.officer.com/forums/showthread.php?s=2294f3c128ec8732cb73bd88dcef1d32&threadid=25938&perpage=20&pagenumber=1
Becareful if you logon and respond about this though, they will kick you off for just about anything they don't agree with! >:( What a bunch of loser cops on that topic!
Forward a copy of that link to the AMA and see how they feel about it ;)
Interesting....
http://forums.officer.com/forums/showthread.php?s=12267138b81007a6810f0f18737b0635&threadid=27158
Link sent to the AMA >:(
They have already locked the topic and another that popped up about it. I actually registered and was going to make a respectable response, but they are not allowing it. If the AMA publishes this on their site that message board will get hammered by motorcyclists everywhere.
It's sad that feelings like these surface in a public forum by those that are supposed to 'Protect and Serve', I also found it very disturbing how they slammed on any "civilian" (simple minded as we must apparently be) that dared to respond with a different opinion. My respect for the Police just fell a few steps down the ladder. :-/
I registered also. I'm going to type it in notepad first and then post it. Hopefully the AMA will step in just for comment or something. I gave up riding on the street because of both stupid people and cops. I was tired of both of them. I have a feeling that the entire BBS over there is full of "power trip" cops whom just "go the extra mile" and make themselves seem "better" than everyone else.
>:(
Here's my vent over an incident with cops on my bike (the one that got me off the street forever.) I'd about had enough, and I didn't do anything wrong. I wasn't speeding or anything. This was over 2 years ago..
http://ducsunlimited.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=900&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=dan+royal+oad&sid=2a006c113420873cbcb6aca1707e487e
I'm going to reference this in my post on the subject. Long story short, it's about one of their own getting hurt badly.
http://forums.officer.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27182
I think this will be the one time I'll be glad to be banned from a BBS, because they aren't going to like what I have to say, but I'm going to be starting a thread in a respectable fashion myself :) If you read the link in this post, you'll see where I"m coming from. I'm gonna give them a taste of their own medicine, and as everyone knows, I'm the best there is at setting people off on a forum ;)
I hope someone saves it as an html to give to the ama, when the popo's over there delete the thread.
The guy he is laughing about wasnt a stunter anyway.
Not worth getting pissed about. Cops are always right, and you'll never convince them otherwise. Try to prove a point, and they keep screwing you harder until you comply. It isn't going to change, so why worry about it?
I'll jump in...
First, how can you guys generalize on police officers?
Seems like we've got some "officers" generalizing about some motorcyclists...which is certainly a far stretch...
You guys believe everything you read on the internet?
Some of you logged into that forum. Doesn't seem to take any LE credentials to log into that forum. The stuff you're readin' doesn't even have to be true at all. Some people just make stuff up. Admittedly, police officers will work in some seedy areas with some people that are less than honorable. They might actually own bikes. Might be law breakers too. Might use the bike in their "work". Chasing them is part of it.
Poetic Justice? Well, I'm sure we could get a real police officer to tell us about known "pieces of cr@p" that had things happen to them. Yeah, they've been in the system, but they keep getting rolled out. Over and over, they hit the system, but they get "protected". Sometimes those people finally make mistakes and pay with something above and beyond what a legal system can give out.
I'm sorry, but if you take a bike and run from the police and some one comes out in front of you and you get hurt...well, yeah, that is poetic justice. Doesn't that go back to the "you play you pay" rules too?
There are whole subsystems in every organization and group.
I think the offensive thing was that the officers on the forum seemed so gleeful to see a rider ripped to pieces, and that the officers seemed to have a predjudiced view of all cyclests. They seemed no less gleeful when talking about the cyclest-soldier who was killed than they did when the bike thief got chewed up while running from the law.
I have friends who are cops, and also racers. These are good guys. I guess every group will have some idiots in it. It just sucks much worse when that idiot has a gun and a badge, and the ability to screw with you until he gets bored.
Oh, I've NEVER run from the police. If they hit the lights, I stop. I once saw a cop break into a u-turn after clocking me at around 90 on the highway. I pulled over and waited. When he finally found a hole in traffic and got to me, he let me go with my apology and a warning. Like I said, they're not all bad.
i will not lose sleep at night about a stunta getting his due.
of course, i don't lose sleep at night when a cop gets his.
I have no intention of attempting to change their mind. More or less, give them a taste of their own medicine. Let's see how much they like it when someone "gloats" when on of their own gets hurt. The point isn't the thread itself, it's the fact that they "gloat" when someone gets hurt. It doesn't matter if it's in a car, on a bike, or on a skateboard.
Hi Brad :)
There's a few idiots there, true. But I see more officers making sense than stunters in those threads.
When we used to stunt... we knew we could get caught. In fact, we got caught regularly. If one of us got a ticket, we sent it to our lawyer, paid the fine, and went on our way.
I can still appreciate a good wheelie... and anybody who says that wheelies are dumb just can't ride one ;). Some of the other stuff stunters do nowadays is WAY over my head - but I can imagine the thrill is just the same.
But stunting on the street is illegal and dangerous. Everyone knows it. Stunters using the excuse "we do it because cops hate us" is bullsh*t. I don't have a problem with stunters... to each their own. But don't do the crime if you can't pay the time. Simple as that. We quit stunting because we got sick of paying the tickets - racing is cheaper (and WAY more fun.)
Isn't there any stunta with D.O.S. skills ;D ;)
jim :D ...send me you and danos emails.
send them to speedballer@highspeedassault.com
8)
Chucked a gun and some dope? Is this common luggage for "stunt bikers?"
I leave that stuff home when I'm stuntin' ;)
Does this guy hate stunters or armed drug dealers?
Gotta go with the cops on this one.
No safety gear. Stunting in a public area. Running from the cops. Guns and dope. Stolen Helmet.
Were they a bit insensitive? Yeah. Life is tough.
After working many years with a multitude of L.E.O.s I came to the realization: They see the worst we have to offer every day and deal with it in thier own way.
QuoteGotta go with the cops on this one.
No safety gear. Stunting in a public area. Running from the cops. Guns and dope. Stolen Helmet.
Were they a bit insensitive? Yeah. Life is tough.
After working many years with a multitude of L.E.O.s I came to the realization: They see the worst we have to offer every day and deal with it in thier own way.
COMPLETELY off topic... but your name really rings a bell. Were we pitted together at ROC in 2003? You had those cool siphons, and borrowed my dad's BlackBird to take your lady friend for a ride?
If so... how the heck are ya? Drop me an email - jim@kingpinracing.com
Also off topic, but is that plummer's crack in your avatar Omni? ;D ;D
Anyone ever think that this is just a story made up to get a rise out of people?
Quoteour then new Chevys that had the
Vette engine (plus I flipped the air cleaner over & put
octane booster in the tank,
Those cars didnt have circular air filters when they had vette motors BTW. ;)
QuoteAnyone ever think that this is just a story made up to get a rise out of people?
Those cars didnt have circular air filters when they had vette motors BTW. ;)
Rob, I was waiting for someone else to bring that up. Not Really "Vette"motors either. Same block different heads and FI.
QuoteAlso off topic, but is that plummer's crack in your avatar Omni? ;D ;D
LOL!!!!!
Now that you say it.... ;D
QuoteCOMPLETELY off topic... but your name really rings a bell. Were we pitted together at ROC in 2003? You had those cool siphons, and borrowed my dad's BlackBird to take your lady friend for a ride?
If so... how the heck are ya? Drop me an email - jim@kingpinracing.com
Yes, Jim...it's me. And I got a big thanks from Spears for the order your dad put in for them. Thank your dad again for letting me take the bird for a spin.
as far as the lady friend goes... what a story. She gets back here to San Jose and camps out in my travel trailer. While I was at the season closer in December- she sets fire to it by accident and splits town. She really did enjoy the ride on the bird though. ;)
QuoteI have no intention of attempting to change their mind. More or less, give them a taste of their own medicine. Let's see how much they like it when someone "gloats" when on of their own gets hurt. The point isn't the thread itself, it's the fact that they "gloat" when someone gets hurt. It doesn't matter if it's in a car, on a bike, or on a skateboard.
Dan, for your own saftey, I really wouldn't recommend "teasing the bull". There is a great deal of information about you (name, address, job, vehicles, family, etc...) that you have divulged on this board not to mention things you have done. Screwing with these guys is not like telling lies to the rest of us. I truly believe (all personal feelings aside) that this would not be the best move you could make. Pissing off a hippie is one thing, pissing off a group of people who have full legal access to entirely too much information about you is much worse. Think** Remember how much grief the kid who tried to walk off without paying for things at the track day in MI received?
If you read the post, the guy who wrote the post sounds like a hack security guard at Wal Mart. He doesn't even know the correct motor that was in his Caprice CLassic, let alone that Octane Boost does nothing to increase HP.
Yeah... that's why I didn't bother posting it. After calming down and writing out a thread long enough to be a few pages long, I finally calmed down and figured I was wasting my time. Thanks for looking out though. I have a tendancy to run my mouth faster than my brain runs ;)
Quote I have a tendancy to run my mouth faster than my brain runs ;)
LOL!!!!
;D
;D :-*
Well, sucks to be the "cops." Roadracing World has a small bit about this thread and the comments made on their site... :D
everyone must remember that it is NOT the legitimate roadracers that are giving OUR sport a bad reputation, it is the street squids that do their standup wheelies down major interstates and whatever BS stunts they pull on the street.. for what ? to endanger my families lives? or GSXR Mike's?
The street squids play Russian roulette when they attempt to flee and elude but with one dangerous catch, they are not only endangering their safety but every other motorists that is sharing the road.
It is NOT the fault that the LEO's are doing his/her job in preventing an innocent family in a mini van from becoming the victim of a reckless street stunter... that is OUR job and you the taxpayer pay us good money to keep your family safe and risk our lives to save thier lives if need be.
Sure the LEO posting that thread may have been politically incorrect by not sugar coating the fact that the convicted felon got exactly what they deserved... so what? Would anyone on this forum felt differently if the squid had just finished raping a 12 year old in a bathroom stall?... I thought not.
And therin lies the problem, if indeed it was a rapist fleeing from the police after raping a child and the police did not attempt a pursuit you all would be second guessing the LEOs judgement for not pursuing and once again blame the police for the behavior of a convicted felon.... especailly if the victim was a CCS racer's child.
I have been cleaning up the bodies for 14 years now and have little sympathy for those who make the conscious decision to flee from the police and end up wrapped around a pole. I do have sympathy for the innocent family's lives that are destroyed as a result of thier infantile behavior.
Bottom line : SAVE IT FOR THE TRACK !
Damnit, I couldn't help myself...
http://forums.officer.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=293113#post293113
Quoteeveryone must remember that it is NOT the legitimate roadracers that are giving OUR sport a bad reputation, it is the street squids that do their standup wheelies down major interstates and whatever BS stunts they pull on the street..
It is NOT the fault that the LEO's are doing his/her job in preventing an innocent family in a mini van from becoming the victim of a reckless street stunter...
Whats w/ all the stunter crap. Do you know how few of riders/squids are actual stunters? Not many.
I wish you guys would quit labling any moron squid that can pull a wheelie a stunter.
It's the backroaders and streetsquids that have given bikes a bad name. And if you think back a decade or so, it was the backroaders, canyon carvers, etc that were trashing the motorcycle image, raising insurance rates, and introducing legislation to ban sportbikes.
Ya'll are trying to pas the buck onto stunters when the twisty guys are at least as guilty, if not more.
Ya'll have forgotten where ya used to ride, and how ya used to break multiple laws and endanger the public by highspeed on the backroads. I was guilt of it too. WE all have done it. Quit being hypocrites.
QuoteSure the LEO posting that thread may have been politically incorrect by not sugar coating the fact that the convicted felon got exactly what they deserved... so what?
Convicted felon? Convicted of what?
What if it was some dumb kid who ran? Would he have deserved getting dismembered too.
Got what he deserved? That's way harsh.
If dusting off a cop or two in the twisties equates to deserving to lose limbs, then most on this board would be amputees.
The cop that posted that needs to be evaluated and terminated.
Terminated? for what ? expressing a personal opinion? any as*hole, convicted felon or not, that runs from the police for what ever reason and crashes heavy has no one to blame but ther own sorry ass but it has become a politically convient excuse to blame the police for whatever crime little Johnny commits and subsequently gets caught.
A 13 year old honor student travelling at 100mph will do as much damage to my wife in her car as a 30 something convicted felon at the same speed.
Harsh ?... you're right, the little scumbag should have gotten 3 months probation... yeah, that'll teach him a lesson..
and if happened to be your sister, brother, girlfriend that died or became a vegetable as a result of this moron gangsta thug wannabee's behavior, I 'm sure the word "harsh" would be the gentlest of descriptions
WOW! These specific topics on that Police forum have spread like wildfire thruout motorcycling forums of many types! :o I linked it here after seeing it on SBN myself.
I find irony in the denial of constitutional rights on a website for the very people who are supposed to protect those very rights for us. What am I talking about? The fact that if you say negative statements about Police or say things they don't like they threaten they will delete your post and remove you permanently from their site (a public forum no less). I'm not talking about vulgerity or things such as that as reasoning for expulsion, but simply expressing a view other than what they want to see. In fact the vulgerities and threats coming from these Police officers is just crazy. What ever happened to 'Freedom of Speech'? Of all things for the cops to be doing this, it's sad! The moderator has even threatened in 1 of the threads concerning motorcyclists that if we don't all basically shut-up he is going to remove all the "stunt bikers" on the forum no matter if you have said anything or not! Ok Hitler, or is it Big Brother, wanting to make sure all the cattle stay herded up as they want? Read the approved things, act the approved way, speak the correct things....soon we can be the next U.S.S.R.
I don't approve of what the runner did, especially if the theft, drugs, and gun possesion are true. But what gets me is how the officer more or less removed this as ever having been a chase from a legal standpoint and didn't even charge him with the supposed other charges, now isn't that flat out reckless of him? How about the other guy they talk about too, the marine that died while speeding, he didn't have the other stuff against him like the 1st guy? But yet as expressed here, many would look at him as being just as deserving of the outcome as the criminal.
The reason I started this thread was because I personally was saddened to see the gleefull reactions by these officers at the extensive injuries of a fellow human being. But wait, I forgot that depending on what class of a person you are determines if you should die or not, sure sounds alot like the mentality the Nazi's had. So if you speed on the street it's 'poetic justice' and deserving that you should be maimed or die? Taking this even further then if your in the military it's 'poetic justice' and expected that you should die because you asked for it? So a Police officer in the anti-gang unit should meet a 'poetic justice' ending by being beat into disfigurement by the very gang members he has sent to jail in the past, after all it's his own fault for being involved in the 1st place? And then us, high risk motorcycle roadracers, what a bunch of idiots that deserve to be dismembered or killed for being involved in such a potentially life ending sport, now that's 'poetic justice'! :-/
What a bunch of hooey. Most of the posters on that site are probably toll booth attendants. The real police don't care about stunters. Wannabees.
Quotesay things they don't like they threaten they will delete your post and remove you permanently from their site (a public forum no less). I'm not talking about vulgerity or things such as that as reasoning for expulsion, but simply expressing a view other than what they want to see. In fact the vulgerities and threats coming from these Police officers is just crazy. What ever happened to 'Freedom of Speech'? Of all things for the cops to be doing this, it's sad! The moderator has even threatened in 1 of the threads concerning motorcyclists that if we don't all basically shut-up he is going to remove all the "stunt bikers" on the forum no matter if you have said anything or not! Ok Hitler, or is it Big Brother, wanting to make sure all the cattle stay herded up as they want? Read the approved things, act the approved way, speak the correct things....soon we can be the next U.S.S.R.
It is NOT a public site. Someone owns that site, just as someone owns this site. Just because the public can read it, doesn't mean you have freedom of speech there. The board owners and moderators can do whatever they want, it's THEIR little island.
Hey Bernie, how ya doing. I posted earlier but deleted it. I didn't want to offend clutch or other cop racers since I respect them as people, just believe their view of things gets messed up along the way. You get to see them at their happy side. As normal poeple in a toy store. They tell stories that really are funny....unless you are the guy they screwed for no reason other than they could. I think they need to learn how to have real fun somehow instead of screwing up peoples lives for sport.
Kids are stupid. I was a kid long ago, I ran, did wheelies, drank and drove. Pretty much anything that will get you jail time now. Back then, it was "pour all that beer out" or "Do you think you're Evil Kanevil bla bla" and a cop would try to help you to the healthier path without even a ticket. And Baltimore is not Mayberry. It seems like now they just get off on giving a 18 yo a criminal record at the slightest opportunity when real threats abound. It makes them appear as power crazed cowards instead of nobily useing all of that authority. Personally I blame the legal system. If a cop tries to do right and make a kid pour out 3 6packs and the kid has a problem on the way home, the cop takes the heat and that is wrong. Justice is blind..and apparently deaf n' dumb too.
Odd, I'm glad my boy is in the Marines. He has the structure to stay out of trouble and he'll be able to shoot people to relieve his teenage tension, and that's a good thing? Society is a f'n mess.
QuoteWhats w/ all the stunter crap. Do you know how few of riders/squids are actual stunters? Not many.
I wish you guys would quit labling any moron squid that can pull a wheelie a stunter.
It's the backroaders and streetsquids that have given bikes a bad name. And if you think back a decade or so, it was the backroaders, canyon carvers, etc that were trashing the motorcycle image, raising insurance rates, and introducing legislation to ban sportbikes.
Ya'll are trying to pas the buck onto stunters when the twisty guys are at least as guilty, if not more.
Ya'll have forgotten where ya used to ride, and how ya used to break multiple laws and endanger the public by highspeed on the backroads. I was guilt of it too. WE all have done it. Quit being hypocrites.
Convicted felon? Convicted of what?
What if it was some dumb kid who ran? Would he have deserved getting dismembered too.
Got what he deserved? That's way harsh.
If dusting off a cop or two in the twisties equates to deserving to lose limbs, then most on this board would be amputees.
The cop that posted that needs to be evaluated and terminated.
#1- the rider was a felon: he ran from the cops, had prior convictions for drugs and weapons.
#2- if you run you pay the cost- tough shit.
#3- it is not a "stunna" label that we are looking at . we are looking at it as a law breaker versus the guys that get thier stunt or speed fix in a closed course.
the dumb bastard should have worn safety gear, not run, and kept his gun and drugs at home. Get your genes out of the pool!
the tough part about this whole thing is the originator of this post like was a troll...
there are several thing that ring inconsitant.
Most of the flakes on the LEO forum are wanna bees.
Faggedaboudit...
when are we going to see the contingencies posted!?!?!
QuoteI find irony in the denial of constitutional rights on a website for the very people who are supposed to protect those very rights for us. What am I talking about? The fact that if you say negative statements about Police or say things they don't like they threaten they will delete your post and remove you permanently from their site (a public forum no less). I'm not talking about vulgerity or things such as that as reasoning for expulsion, but simply expressing a view other than what they want to see. In fact the vulgerities and threats coming from these Police officers is just crazy. What ever happened to 'Freedom of Speech'? Of all things for the cops to be doing this, it's sad! The moderator has even threatened in 1 of the threads concerning motorcyclists that if we don't all basically shut-up he is going to remove all the "stunt bikers" on the forum no matter if you have said anything or not! Ok Hitler, or is it Big Brother, wanting to make sure all the cattle stay herded up as they want? Read the approved things, act the approved way, speak the correct things....soon we can be the next U.S.S.R.
The web site admin can dictate what can be and cant be said on their board. If they dont want people to say "turtle" theres not anything you can do other than just not go there.
Dont know what state you're in speedballer, but fleeing in WI is a felony.
Rob, Matt, that is exactly my point. A kid doing a wheelie or blasting down the interstate has a what, 1 in a million chance of hurting sombody beside himself. The cell phone cager has a higher probability. A FELON, sounds like a desperate criminal to me. What is wrong with this whole picture. The dope tradin gun guy, F him, I'm talking about the teenager trying sew some oats, knowing he's in deep doo for doing 100 and makes a break for it. Felony conviction for being a stupid kid doing something that you would probably do if you didn't have a badge to show the cop that stopped you. Not long ago there was a story about a cop on a sportbike taking a ride and when he got home the cops showed up later. After a " high speed chase" that the cop didn't know was happening. FELONY is real, speeding on a bike is not that big of a deal that it should ruin a young mans life.
QuoteRob, Matt, that is exactly my point. A kid doing a wheelie or blasting down the interstate has a what, 1 in a million chance of hurting sombody beside himself. The cell phone cager has a higher probability. A FELON, sounds like a desperate criminal to me. What is wrong with this whole picture. The dope tradin gun guy, F him, I'm talking about the teenager trying sew some oats, knowing he's in deep doo for doing 100 and makes a break for it. Felony conviction for being a stupid kid doing something that you would probably do if you didn't have a badge to show the cop that stopped you. Not long ago there was a story about a cop on a sportbike taking a ride and when he got home the cops showed up later. After a " high speed chase" that the cop didn't know was happening. FELONY is real, speeding on a bike is not that big of a deal that it should ruin a young mans life.
Felony speed
Felony endagerment
Felony resisting arrest
your teenager has commited a felony. He had better pull over and take his medicine. better he do it on the track rather than ruin some bystanders life.
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Ê Ê I find irony in the denial of constitutional rights on a website for the very people who are supposed to protect those very rights for us. What am I talking about? The fact that if you say negative statements about Police or say things they don't like they threaten they will delete your post and remove you permanently from their site (a public forum no less). I'm not talking about vulgerity or things such as that as reasoning for expulsion, but simply expressing a view other than what they want to see. In fact the vulgerities and threats coming from these Police officers is just crazy. What ever happened to 'Freedom of Speech'? Ê:-/
The Constitution is between the governmnet and its citizens. It does not control any other situations. It sets limits on what the government can do.
Your employer can forbid you from speaking poorly about the company and you can be legally fired by the company if you do. This does not violate freedom of speech because it is not the government telling you what you can and cannot say.
Likewise a web site can control content (as this one does) and not be in violation of freedom of speech.
QuoteGet your genes out of the pool!
I like to pee in the pool
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I think we should fence off....say Texas, and maybe Oklahoma to make a prison big enough to hold all the outlaw lawless slime that have ever done 100mph. And throw all the witches in there too.
I forget who said it but I love the quote,"America is a nation of laws, Poorly written and randomly enforced, but laws none the less."
Typical of LEOs and their wannabe groupies; "let's cloud the issue with irrelevent BS and try to engage the unsuspecting into a feeding frenzy on saving our families from"; (what did you call it BERZERKER?, "rapist or child molesters"?) Especially the kids that are prey for these scum bags that belong to the CCS families. Hey leave our kids out of this!
Where I live the ratio is 1:1058 civilians! Do YOU really think that the majority rely on LEOs? If you do, it's extremely naive of you.
Cornercamping; great job on the officers.com site. Although, these are the tuff guys (yeah, right) I believe they are immune to any diplomacy when exposed to it.
The original issue here (at least what I read) was the so called officer who took GREAT pleasure in the pain and suffering of a "runner".
This pansy has started to back peddle already saying the readers don't recognise "satire"
Here is some "satire" to consider, I agree 100% with M. Buck (for the first time!), I say, spend your money on a more common cause for the general good of the PEOPLE, screw the 1099 Foundation, send your checks and money orders to the NRA, Keep the 2nd Ammendment alive and use it for what it was intended for, to protect us from ALL evils, including those of the government (LEOs). F'in COWBOYS is what that forum is about, I have friends that are cops, I know some that are like the Sgt. Goofball who made the original post; the job is what it is, don't like it? Affects your family life, can't separate the two? TS >:(
Like I said before, you have a choice, chill out, or stay on your POWER and ADRENALINE high >:(
This is on our forum due to the GESTAPO sensorship BS "officer.com".
Got a problem, call a neighbor; faster, reliable, good judgement!
Posted by: mad_brad Posted on: Feb 8th, 2005, 9:20am
i will not lose sleep at night about a stunta getting his due.
of course, i don't lose sleep at night when a cop gets his.
If you wanna dance, you gotta pay the band.
( Sometimes the band laughs at yer dancin")
SMOKIN'!!!
Backpeddlin' at it's best!
Take a closer look into the rest of the posts below it, represents only those who post? I think not.
These are the guys who we are supposed to rely on to protect us? What's wrong with this picture?
LE; Look up: Bill McAlvain, LASD, messed around once too often, now sits with the rest of the scum in the BIG.
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