have onboard video from Road America I can view ??? Just a lap or so..
TIA :)
Anyone with a copy of the AMA races there in '04 would have an onboard lap, including the chicane before the kink.
Quotehave onboard video from Road America I can view ??? Just a lap or so..
TIA :)
//www.motovid.com
Look for the 2004 archive list on the left side of the screen. Mark!
Thanks guys :)
Hey Mark, can you download these video's or do you have to buy the DVD ??? I found everything I"m looking for, but I can't find how to download them ???
Nevermind, I"m stupid ;D Found it. Ya gotta click on the riders name ;D
Click on the riders name for the track you want. Doc Stein has a good video!
There is one of me at BHF thats pretty cool too. Its on page two of the archives. Turn up the volume!! ;D
No thanks, I already know how loud Buell's are. Those are the only bikes that scare the hell outta me as they pass. Kinda hard to do when I"m on a twin too ;D I barely even hear the I-4's pass by but those damn Buell's scare the hell outta ya ;D
RA doesn't look to technical compared to what I'm use to (Grattan) so I should be alright. Gonna have to bring sprockets and mess around with them during the test and tune with Trackaddix. :)
1 Buell + 1 Force header = O.M.G. LOUD! ;D
Hey Mark, how come you didn't pass that "larger" guy in the white leathers on the inside ??? You gave him pleny of time on the brakes. I'd went up the inside ;D
j/k :P
That was Dave... It was his first time on a bike in several years. I just didn't want to spook him so I took it real easy thats all.... ;)
Man I miss the track. I watched the entire video's thinking where to pass, ect. ;D I can't wait. It's definetly on this year :D
QuoteThat was Dave... It was his first time on a bike in several years. I just didn't want to spook him so I took it real easy thats all.... ;)
You sure did have a lot of open track time by yourself there ;D Did you get lapped by the guy in the yellow leathers on the Gixxer ???
::)
;D
:-*
Well... I will be at ALL the MW and GP events with the exception of Topeka. Look me up. I am not hard to find! ;)
QuoteYou sure did have a lot of open track time by yourself there ;D Did you get lapped by the guy in the yellow leathers on the Gixxer ???
::)
;D
:-*
Nope... That was one of the instructors.
;D Will do. Just look for K3. We'll be pitted together ;) ;D :P
I wish CCS raced Grattan :( Not "Fasttrax CCS." I mean CCS sanctioned. Anyone gonna do Grattan with Fasttrax this season ???
Rotten Grattan...? No way! I bit it really hard there on the sportie. :o ??? :-[
But seriously... I would like to go back with the Buell tho. :D
Where'd you go down at ??? Turn 1 scares the hell outta me, and I have no idea why. I can come flying outta 10b or 11 now that they changed it, but I'm on the brakes way too early going into one. I lose alot of time there. :(
The back stretch going over the hill, I hit the brakes before I let the front end settle down. I definatly left my mark on the pavemet there for all to see! ???
Yeah, that's not fun. I went down in "the bowl" turn 7 but I was fine. Only time I've ever been down at Grattan. But then again, I'm not fast enough to crash too often ;D :P
My goal this year: Break 1:28's at Grattan :D
I didn't really care for that blind corner either. I cant rember which one it is but it's just before the back stretch. That corner spooked me a little!
Have a great Super Bowl Sunday! Im outta here for a while. Have a good one!
Yeah, but that's the fun stuff. The blind corners :D
Yeah, I'm outta here too. Going off to watch the Patriot's lose my money :P
Dan, now that Grattan has folks that can actually count, the bowl became turn 8 and 10b became turn 12 last year (see http://www.grattanraceway.com/thetrack.html).
As an FYI, per Bob - as of last month anyway - Fasttrax won't be at Grattan this year and they no longer have any connection w/ CCS. I know the CCS schedule has Fasttrax listed as a sanctioned region, but hey. That same schedule has all the races as Sunday-Monday events and has them sharing the track with WERA in August. ???
Hmm... that sucks. :( I guess I'll just be doing trackdays at Grattan this year :(
Maybe next year Grattan can be included... :'(
H, you going to RA in April?
QuoteH, you going to RA in April?
Nyet.
I'm not good enough to make traveling around to race a worth while thing.
A couple words of advice I'll give ya though. Pack your polypros and pick up a pair of these http://www.newenough.com/tour_master_coldfront_carbon_gloves_page.htm
I'll just stick to BeaveRun, Grattan, Gingerman & Nelson.
Maybe an ocassional ACC or BHF. But now that Illinois has raised the toll charge - esp. for non card holders - and I have a dbl axle trailer >:(, I may have to win the lottery to be able to get to BHF and back :(
QuoteMaybe an ocassional ACC or BHF. But now that Illinois has raised the toll charge - esp. for non card holders - and I have a dbl axle trailer >:(, I may have to win the lottery to be able to get to BHF and back :(
I know! I think Illinois hates visitors. You should live on the Wisconsin side. They have the tolls, but then going back north towwards the state line, they have off ramps to the north, but no on ramps. So apparently, they're trying to make it difficult to escape from Illinois as well. Couldn't someone just build a bridge over the entire atate?
:o ;)
QuoteI'll just stick to BeaveRun, Grattan, Gingerman & Nelson.
Maybe an ocassional ACC or BHF. But now that Illinois has raised the toll charge - esp. for non card holders - and I have a dbl axle trailer >:(, I may have to win the lottery to be able to get to BHF and back :(
We'll if we go, you can always ride with us 8) Trailer is big enough, and when 4 or 5 people split the gas/hotel, it's not too bad.
Who is "we"?
Hmm... early April in Wisconsin. 60+ mph windchill (when on the bike in the slower turns). And on top of all that, trapped for about 10 hours (each way) in a vehicle listening to you.
Not that I don't appreciate the offer Dan, but... uh... lemme get back to you on that one.
QuoteWho is "we"?
Hmm... early April in Wisconsin. 60+ mph windchill (when on the bike in the slower turns). And on top of all that, trapped for about 10 hours (each way) in a vehicle listening to you.
Not that I don't appreciate the offer Dan, but... uh... lemme get back to you on that one.
The same guys that I always ride with. I'll update you as we find out who's going. And, you won't be listening to me. We'll be sitting back watching movies (IOMTT and such) and if the motorhome is what we're taking, we sleep and drink beer 8)
or, you could just throw your bike in our trailer, and meet us there :) My trailer is 8.5 x 20 so we've got plenty of room.
Quoteor, you could just throw your bike in our trailer, and meet us there :) My trailer is 8.5 x 20 so we've got plenty of room.
Hey H!
Yeah, Dan should have plenty of room. After all, he only packs about 5 gal. of race fuel for a weekend for two riders and no spare parts! Not to mention the imaginary race bikes, they don't take up much room either! ;D
QuoteHey H! Yeah, Dan should have plenty of room. After all, he only packs about 5 gal. of race fuel for a weekend for two riders and no spare parts! Not to mention the imaginary race bikes, they don't take up much room either! ;D
ROFL ;D ;D ;)
I tell ya Dan, you do make a road trip sound enticing. Seriously.
Would Jason be one of the folks in your crew? I'd love to see some of the faster Michigan guys (Nathan Dressman, Etter, etc) in FUSA competition.
Anyway, I have my plans all mapped out already. Track days, family trips, races, HSTA road adventures. My time off from work and budget is nearly all spoken for.
QuoteHey H!
Yeah, Dan should have plenty of room. After all, he only packs about 5 gal. of race fuel for a weekend for two riders and no spare parts! Not to mention the imaginary race bikes, they don't take up much room either! ;D
>:( It wasn't ONLY 5 gallons. The bike was full when we got there ;) :P Imaginary bikes huh....
As far as spare parts are concerned, in my defense I must say:
1. I am a mechaincal cluster f###, so even if I had the parts, I couldn't fix it anyways.
2. Do you know how much parts cost for Italian twins? I'm not sitting on parts I hopefully will never use.
;)
QuoteI tell ya Dan, you do make a road trip sound enticing. Seriously.
Would Jason be one of the folks in your crew? I'd love to see some of the faster Michigan guys (Nathan Dressman, Etter, etc) in FUSA competition.
Anyway, I have my plans all mapped out already. Track days, family trips, races, HSTA road adventures. My time off from work and budget is nearly all spoken for.
On some trips Etter may come, but usually it's not likely out of state. Remember, he just opened a dealership so I doubt he'll have time to spend alot of time driving just to race. He'll probably be at Grattan though.
Our road trips are always a blast :D We always have enough people to make it fun, and cheap. If you think about it, 4 or 5 guys in one room, split the bill, and it's about $10.00 a person, and then we have shower, breakfast, ect. without the headaches of camping. Not to mention the bar in the hotel ;) Then, we spilt all expenses, and responsibilites, so it's a pretty good thing. One guy supplies the truck and trailer, and the rest of the people pay for gas. :) Let's just say for arguements sake:
$10.00 per person for the room.
$20.00 per person for the vehicle gas.
$20.00 per person for alcohol.
So, for $50.00 + tires + bike gas + entry fee's everything is covered. You have a bed, shower, ect., and alcohol for the weekend :D Other than entry fee's and race fuel, $50.00 isn't much. Especially since more than likely it costs more to go alone. :-/
and we have a "crash rule." Not that anyone else wouldn't have one also, but..
In the event you crash and go to the hospital, we'll take care of all your stuff and meet you at the hospital until your family gets there. Then, we'll get all your equipment back to your place for you.
Believe it or not, I've seen people ride together, and leave equipment at the track and let "his family" take care of it.
Uhhh, dude. I know how a road trip works. I understand the finances of them (remember it isn't me who has a tough time with managerial accounting and cost decisions. Sorry unfair reference to a past thread).
Anyway, it's the idea of traveling in a motorhome. Able to stretch out, watch videos....hmmmm....
Say, Heather, Stumpy, K3 any of you guys have room for another ;)
Quoteand we have a "crash rule." Not that anyone else wouldn't have one also, but... ours makes money for me.
In the event you crash and go to the hospital, we'll take of all your stuff and auction it on eBay. Then, we'll say it was all those other rat basT@rds at the track who must've hosed you.
Believe it or not, I've seen people leave equipment at the track and let me take care of it.
Hmmm... you've a strange way about you Dan. Maybe you should seek professional help with this. ;D
>:(
Who'd want a piece of crap F2 ???
:-*
It's all the other stuff that'd be so worth while. Besides, if the price is right, who wouldn't want it?
Which reminds me. PLEASE enter Thunderbike at Gingerman this year. You got nothing to worry about from me. I'm on a "crap F2" and you're turning under 1:35 at Grattan.
QuoteBesides, if the price is right, who wouldn't want it?
Uhm... Nope, not me. Free, maybe, but then again, it takes up floorspace in the garage. LOL
QuoteWhich reminds me. PLEASE enter Thunderbike at Gingerman this year. You got nothing to worry about from me. I'm on a "crap F2" and you're turning under 1:35 at Grattan.
Maybe, we'll see
:)
QuoteBelieve it or not, I've seen people ride together, and leave equipment at the track and let "his family" take care of it.
I don't believe it. In six seasons, I've never seen someone go to the hospital and have his stuff abandoned, either at a race or at a track day. The standard is that his friends (or neighbors if he's new and came alone) pack his gear, load his bike, and wait to see if he returns. Generally, there will be a bunch of people helping to load the gear. If the weekend ends, the injured rider's rig is usually towed to a place of safety arranged with the track owner, or if the rider has people who know where he lives, they might take the rig home for him.
No one ever had to make any kind of rule or pact about this. It's the way things have always been.
I've always wondered what it would take to break this bond of brotherhood. Perhaps if some loud talking liar showed up after spending a year pissing everyone off in advance, and then displayed his considerable lack of talent in the process of getting himself hurt, the other racers in the pits might adopt the attitude that such a person had worn out his welcome, and didn't deserve help. A guy like that should bring his own friends from home, and he should get their promise for help in writing....
QuoteCouldn't someone just build a bridge over the entire state?
:o ;)
Bet your life it would be a toll bridge! >:(
QuoteI don't believe it. In six seasons, I've never seen someone go to the hospital and have his stuff abandoned, either at a race or at a track day. The standard is that his friends (or neighbors if he's new and came alone) pack his gear, load his bike, and wait to see if he returns. Generally, there will be a bunch of people helping to load the gear. If the weekend ends, the injured rider's rig is usually towed to a place of safety arranged with the track owner, or if the rider has people who know where he lives, they might take the rig home for him.
No one ever had to make any kind of rule or pact about this. It's the way things have always been.
I've always wondered what it would take to break this bond of brotherhood. Perhaps if some loud talking liar showed up after spending a year pissing everyone off in advance, and then displayed his considerable lack of talent in the process of getting himself hurt, the other racers in the pits might adopt the attitude that such a person had worn out his welcome, and didn't deserve help. A guy like that should bring his own friends from home, and he should get their promise for help in writing....
The guy this happened to was riding a Triumph 955i. He crashed hard and went to the hospital. Nobody knew him other than the people he came with. The 2 other guys he was with were still there, and we overheard them talking about it. They didn't want to take the bike because it was destroyed. They pretty much said there was not anything left of the bike, so if he wanted it, he could come get it later. They actually left the bike, and the next day someone else came and got it.
I've been involved numerous times in the aftermath of a transport injury where the rider did not return. Friends, pit neighbors, officials, corner workers, and track owners all seem to get involved, and usually without even being asked. When it happened at an STT weekend, it was Monte (Co-owner of STT) and I who drove to the hospital (In the track owner's truck, no less!) to check on the guy. Neighbors had loaded his rig while we were gone, and when we found out that someone was coming from home to get him, we were given the keys to the front gate for when that person arrived.
From Grattan, to Gingerman, to Barber, to MAM, to Blackhawk, to Road America, to St. Louis, it has always been the same. I can't imagine racers or track day people abandoning a fellow rider in his time of need. Motorcycle people look out for each other. (And what other sport has anything like the Wegman Fund?) Ironically, lending a hand in situations such as these has introduced me to strangers who have later become some of my closest friends.
QuoteBet your life it would be a toll bridge! >:(
Well if it started in one state and ended in another, never touching Illinois soil, perhaps we could get away with it. ;)
Better yet, let's put the "crossroads" right over O'Hare! ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
May as well let this go Dan-o. FOr surely this didn't happen at an STT event.
I've personally driven one guy (who I'd never met before) and his bike back to Royal Oak and driven to the hospital to pick up another guy when I only rode out to Grattan to watch friends.
Gail has been a transport angel to visit a guy in the hospital during a TD, then assist with packing his gear.
Anything can happen, but I think what you may have observed with the Triumph rider is certainly a rare event not something to think is the norm.
BTW, I guess you didn't read my post (about 8 back) too carefully ;)
The more Dan talks about his experiences in our world, the more I realize that he doesn't have any.
Dan, you don't deserve to be one of us. And even if you do show up, you'll never be one of us. Find another hobby.
Chris,
You really need to work on being a lot more precise on how you word things. I swear, you really come across in a very vague manner when you write. People really have a difficult time interpreting exactly what you are trying to say. If you need help on your writing style, I'm sure there are people here on the board who would be happy to help you out. 8) :-* ;D
(HELP! My tongue is stuck to side of my cheek!)
Quote(HELP! My tongue is stuck to side of my cheek!)
::)
Right, racers never do anything wrong or anything that would be precieved as morally incorrect to others. Gimme a break......... ::) Save the speech, people are people, and errors are made. Neither of us know all the details, nor does it really concern me what happened 2 years ago.
H, no it wasn't an STT day. It was a private day. Monte would never let anything like that happen.
I'm done with you, Dan. You are a disturbed, immoral, attention seeking man child. You haven't a clue what racing is about, and it's clear from your posts that you never will. I'm not wasting any more of my time on your impotent mewing. If, and I do mean if, you bother to show up at the track, you'll be shunned, hated and taunted, just as you were in STT. So why bother? You've seen to it that we all hate you already.
Stay away from me if you do show up at the track. I don't want to meet you, don't want to talk to you, don't want to debate you, and I'm fast enough that I won't have to race you. If you get in my face, I'll duct tape you to a tree and safety wire your mouth shut.
QuoteIf you get in my face, I'll duct tape you to a tree and safety wire your mouth shut.
I would pay LOTS of money to see this!! ;D
QuoteI'm done with you, Dan. You are a disturbed, immoral, attention seeking man child. You haven't a clue what racing is about, and it's clear from your posts that you never will. I'm not wasting any more of my time on your impotent mewing. If, and I do mean if, you bother to show up at the track, you'll be shunned, hated and taunted, just as you were in STT. So why bother? You've seen to it that we all hate you already.
Stay away from me if you do show up at the track. I don't want to meet you, don't want to talk to you, don't want to debate you, and I'm fast enough that I won't have to race you. If you get in my face, I'll duct tape you to a tree and safety wire your mouth shut.
LMAO... I guess I'm just too stupid to understand what "racing is all about" because I commented on a situation that I saw happen a long time ago. ::) You keep saying that you don't want anything to do with what I have to say, yet you keep posting to things that I've stated. To quote you:
"I don't believe it. In six seasons, I've never seen someone go to the hospital and have his stuff abandoned, either at a race or at a track day. The standard is that his friends (or neighbors if he's new and came alone) pack his gear, load his bike, and wait to see if he returns. Generally, there will be a bunch of people helping to load the gear. If the weekend ends, the injured rider's rig is usually towed to a place of safety arranged with the track owner, or if the rider has people who know where he lives, they might take the rig home for him.
No one ever had to make any kind of rule or pact about this. It's the way things have always been."
Now what you are saying isn't possible or true because of what again? Hmm..next your going to tell me that there is no such thing as theft at the race track too. Kinda how I had a set of tire warmers come up missing around lunch time, and were never found. Common man. You just want to argue with me for the sake of argument. This is the real world. Just because someone holds a race license doesn't mean that they are perfect. Like I said, I don't know exactly what happened in the situation where they left the bike behind. I just know it happened. You, in turn jumped in my coversation with H about the way my friends and I are when we travel to the track, and threw your opinion in to what we do. You don't know anyone involved, or even me other than the jackass comments I make on the BBS. Give me a break. ::) Whatever, doesn't matter.
QuoteYou don't know anyone involved, or even me other than the jackass comments I make on the BBS.
Its because of this that so many people find you annoying.
K3 was trying to bring you into our world, to show you how great this racing family could be. But, you chose to be ignorant and just pad your post count.
All of us showed a great deal of patience with you, and even defended and difused those who came to this BBS to share their past experiences. Your gratitude is shown by your obstinance.
It's time for you to go and play on another BBS. I can say with certainty that 95% of us are tired of you.
Dawn
QuoteIts because of this that so many people find you annoying.
K3 was trying to bring you into our world, to show you how great this racing family could be. But, you chose to be ignorant and just pad your post count.
All of us showed a great deal of patience with you, and even defended and difused those who came to this BBS to share their past experiences. Your gratitude is shown by your obstinance.
It's time for you to go and play on another BBS. I can say with certainty that 95% of us are tired of you.
Dawn
Last time I checked, I was an adult, and even though I appreciate somethings, it doesn't mean it doesn't get annoying on my side. I don't come on the BBS seeking anyones approval for something I have to say. Last time I check, everyone is allowed an opinion. Just because you don't agree with someone doesn't mean they are wrong or stupid. Nevermind, it's not worth the headache to type it all out.
And CC successfully implodes yet again. Same story, different BBS. Congratulations, Corner - you've successfully alienated yourself from yet another group of people.
WERA doesn't want you, you've worn out your welcome at CCS, and you "don't want to race Fasttrax." Where exactly does that leave your (bench) racing career? As has been pointed out, the racing community is pretty small. I hope your supposed "group of freinds" is pretty tight-knit, as it doesn't look like you have much other support in the racing community at this point.
The folks here are as accepting and helpful a group as I've ever seen, demonstrating "sainthood" levels of patience with you. It's a shame to see you wear them out. :-/
Dawn, you can't say we didn't warn you. ;D
Dan, when even Dawn feels you have no redeeming quality, you really gotta start wondering...
::)
So Papa, since you got what you wanted, are you going to move on now? I mean, you have to admit, your sole purpose of joining this BBS was to discredit me and attempt to set me up for failure. So, now where ya gonna go :-* No need to post here anymore. I won't be around. I'm sure half the registered BBS members will disappear into the wood work... ::)
QuoteSo Papa, since you got what you wanted, are you going to move on now? I mean, you have to admit, your sole purpose of joining this BBS was to discredit me and attempt to set me up for failure. So, now where ya gonna go :-* No need to post here anymore. I won't be around. I'm sure half the registered BBS members will disappear into the wood work... ::)
I raced CCS and posted here long before you appeared on any BBS I read, miserable maggot.
Yeah, that's why you have 124 posts, and I'm sure if I go back and search, 120 of them are directed at me ;)
QuoteI raced CCS and posted here long before you appeared on any BBS I read, miserable maggot.
Ignore him and he'll go away.
He can't. That's why he registered in the first place. That's why alot of people registered here.
QuoteHe can't. That's why he registered in the first place. That's why alot of people registered here.
Now theres a delusional thought.
Dawn, one click in the admin panel and problems gone.
QuoteYeah, that's why you have 124 posts, and I'm sure if I go back and search, 120 of them are directed at me ;)
Hint, moron: look for Papa_Thiam in the members listing and check the registration date. ;)
But you are correct anyway, I can't stand liars and I can't help it. ;D
Really, do this:
Do a search, on the keyword DAN with the author Old808 and see how many pop up. I quit at 97.
Then, do a keyword search for just "DAN" with no author and set the perimeter at 1000 results. If you look close, you'll see my name is mentioned over and over by about a handfull of people. What does that tell you.
QuoteHint, moron: look for Papa_Thiam in the members listing and check the registration date. ;)
But you are correct anyway, I can't stand liars and I can't help it. ;D
Yeah, 37 posts. So, between the two you have approx. 170 posts or so, with about 120-130 directed at me. ::) And that 170 goes back to 2001, before I even stepped near a race track. All in all, I'd say a majority of your posts are to mess with me, can we atleast agree on that?
QuoteNow theres a delusional thought.
Dawn, one click in the admin panel and problems gone.
Delusional? Are you kidding me. Check for yourself. 95% of the threads out there directed at me, or that involve me, are usually involving the same people every single time. Use the search feature and see for yourself. The minute I post in ANY thread, the same people come in and post right behind me. Then, all the threads that get locked, usually end up getting locked because of the same people. Am I innocent? NO, I didn't say that. BUT, I'm not the only person at fault here. How many times has MY comment or post soley gotten a thread locked? It's always someone elses comments that take it too far. I'm not innocent, and just as guilty as everyone else. Never said I wasn't.