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Racing Discussion => Racing Discussion => Topic started by: MELK-MAN on January 14, 2005, 07:56:17 AM

Title: no more losing brake lever in races???
Post by: MELK-MAN on January 14, 2005, 07:56:17 AM
Ed Bargy has come up with this little doo-dad, what do ya think. I would like to see it curve around a bit more so it could not hook the leathers or something if i came in too hot on a rider, but it looks like it could keep a lever from getting snapped off or with some refinement keep a front brake lever from being applied and throwing you over the bars by contact with another rider..
Check it out. It will rotate around with pressure...
He will be selling em for $30-$40

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Title: Re: no more losing brake lever in races???
Post by: Eric Kelcher on January 14, 2005, 08:00:05 AM
I would think Bark Busters from a dirtbike would be more useful as you can't hook them like that ram horn.
Title: Re: no more losing brake lever in races???
Post by: MELK-MAN on January 14, 2005, 08:19:33 AM
I agree.. are the bark busters CCS approved??
Title: Re: no more losing brake lever in races???
Post by: speedster_1 on January 14, 2005, 08:20:37 AM
Yeah. I agree. Would those even pass tech?
Title: Re: no more losing brake lever in races???
Post by: MELK-MAN on January 14, 2005, 08:24:03 AM
QuoteYeah. I agree. Would those even pass tech?

Ed Bargy says it was WERA approved, it will rotate if some decent presser is applied in a direction that could rotate it..
Title: Re: no more losing brake lever in races???
Post by: Chris_s on January 14, 2005, 08:24:25 AM
looks kinda dangerous to me.  also dosnt look like it would work.   ???
Title: Re: no more losing brake lever in races???
Post by: Zac on January 14, 2005, 08:45:57 AM
My CR has Acerbis rally guards (like a Bark Buster aluminum guard with nylon overmolded).  CCS tech has never given a second thought to them, and I have never broken a lever or my bling-bling Brembo radial pump, though not without trying.

Also keeps hands warmer when it's really cold.

-z.
Title: Re: no more losing brake lever in races???
Post by: cb186 on January 14, 2005, 09:13:38 AM
 first thing i think of when i see it, is that if you really messed up a corner and ran into another rider that thing could end up firmly planted in their kidney. second thought is that it would just rotate out of the way in a crash once it hit the ground. there's not nearly enough strength there to support the weight of a bike landing on it's side. think of it this way. if that piece of plastic was that strong, why not just make the lever out of the same material.
 i would think barkbusters work well. most of the AMA motard guys use them.
Title: Re: no more losing brake lever in races???
Post by: Jeff on January 14, 2005, 09:23:12 AM
Levers are cheap.  Hands aren't.  Barkbusters bend and turn, and can easily break fingers or a hand.

I like the concept because the only time I've broken a lever in a race was getting hit from behind and my clutch lever broke off when he passed, but a properly drilled lever would have snapped at the drill point.

I'll pass, but that's just my opinion...
Title: Re: no more losing brake lever in races???
Post by: WebCrush on January 14, 2005, 09:59:11 AM
anyone not able to see the pics?
Title: Re: no more losing brake lever in races???
Post by: tug296 on January 14, 2005, 01:52:19 PM
I can't see the pic, sounds like some kind of modified bark buster.
I have seen an aluminum bark buster bent in to the handlebar on a dirt bike, fingers were a mess.
Impact with a tree at 40 mph.
Title: Re: no more losing brake lever in races???
Post by: tshowrench on January 14, 2005, 08:57:02 PM
A few years back Fogarty ran a set of CF hand guards that looked like the Acerbis hand guards for your dirt bike, to prevent just such a thing...

We installed them on Steve Rapp's Duc for the Pikes peak round of the AMA, and sure enough, they worked great...

Im not sure that that wouldnt impale you in the event of impact...
Title: Re: no more losing brake lever in races???
Post by: wizard on January 15, 2005, 03:47:20 AM
ive never crashed and just broke a lever. if he has juice to pour on one and unbend it reweld the subframe straighten the forks and fix the race glass im in
Title: Re: no more losing brake lever in races???
Post by: james-redsv on January 15, 2005, 05:03:26 AM
QuoteI can't see the pic, sounds like some kind of modified bark buster.
I have seen an aluminum bark buster bent in to the handlebar on a dirt bike, fingers were a mess.
Impact with a tree at 40 mph.
Those must have been installed incorrectly, I have raced enduros for years with alum barkbusters and have hit trees dead on with them at over 40mph and have never, ever had one smash in on my fingers. When you hit a tree that fast the bars get ripped from you hands and you go flying. The handle bars were trashed though and i took very hard tumbles but they never smash in even at those speeds. I would not even think of riding in the woods without them. Now putting them on a roadrace bike, i dont think they will work for them.
Title: Re: no more losing brake lever in races???
Post by: wizard on January 16, 2005, 05:54:36 AM
bargy also says you dont have to lean off of a bike...they look dangerious
Title: Re: no more losing brake lever in races???
Post by: Speedballer347 on January 16, 2005, 05:39:13 PM
No-Go on them things....Dangerous!

If your worried about contact w/ your levers, just chop them and reweld the ball to them.

Bad idea :-[