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Title: Ice roadracing
Post by: Baltobuell on October 18, 2004, 06:23:17 PM
 I thought you midwest guys had bloodwarmers to plug in. These guys, I dunno, www.iceroadracing.com
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: Protein Filled on October 18, 2004, 06:33:34 PM
Are you kidding me? Ice riding is just awesome. A whole bunch of people get together here in MN every sunday and go Ice riding. On January 1st, ther is a big get together that gets around 80+ people out at a lake nbearby just to have fun. It really teaches you how to slide and throttle control. I own a CRF450 and an XR100 which I stud up every winter. I personally think I like it more than Roadracing...

Here is a pic of my bikes:

(https://www.ccsforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cra-mn.com%2Fforum%2Findex.php%3Fact%3Dmodule%26amp%3Bmodule%3Dgallery%26amp%3Bcmd%3Dviewimage%26amp%3Bimg%3D1150&hash=7f298521b63080e2e42af6c5760650f3ff44ab35)

And here is one of me and Gary Carter playing around:

(https://www.ccsforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cra-mn.com%2Fforum%2Findex.php%3Fact%3Dmodule%26amp%3Bmodule%3Dgallery%26amp%3Bcmd%3Dviewimage%26amp%3Bimg%3D1161&hash=6a2373cf0fe714ead436a30dda335505d999c291)

Anybody that wants to come to MN and play, you are more than welcome to. Contact Me or Tommy Mason and we can let you know when we start riding. There are always plenty of bikes to ride.

Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: Burt Munro on October 18, 2004, 06:38:41 PM
Oh my God....   those look like tire warmers on the 450!
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: Protein Filled on October 18, 2004, 06:40:54 PM
QuoteOh my God....   those look like tire warmers on the 450!

 ;D ;D

Actually, they are tire wraps, to prevent the studs from getting dull!

Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: Burt Munro on October 18, 2004, 06:49:13 PM
Quote;D ;D

Actually, they are tire wraps, to prevent the studs from getting dull!

Do those come in a size big enough to wrap around a person?   I know some people who could use some help to keep them from getting dull! ;D
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: Super Dave on October 18, 2004, 08:17:33 PM
Ice...

Not expensive.

Everything isn't destroyed when you fall.

You just put on all of your clothes.  Most comfortable when it's below 20 degrees.  When it gets above that, you start getting hot.  

Yes...

If you had to give up everything and keep one thing...I think it would have to be riding on the ice.
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: the_weggie_man on October 18, 2004, 08:44:20 PM
Ice, ice, baby!  Stay tuned here for news of the upcoming Steel Shoe Fund 3 hour endurance ice race. (60 teams last year!!) ;D ;D ;D

Also I'll have the schedule for the short track and ice -moto events at Sunset Tavern as soon as possible. 8)
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: Jeff on October 19, 2004, 06:08:34 AM
If I could run the ice year round, I wouldn't road race.

Last year was my first taste of it, and I thought: "yeah right, this is too cold, these are dirt bikes, this is just gay".  Then I rode...

My first outing was on a Husky CR250 2stroke.  It was incredible.  After about 4 hours, I was hooked and began looking for a dirtbike to ice-ride.

The next weekend I ran a fully super-motard setup CRF-450.  Words cannot describe this experience.  The best description is that it felt EXACTLY like my 600 on hot tires & perfect pavement.  I pulled a friggin stoppie...  On ICE...  I was immediately convinced that the 4stroke was the way to go.  We left the lake and went back to the shop where I loaded up a new 04 CRF-450 which I've affectionately dubbed "bam-bam".

Here's the 450 that I was on that 2nd weekend:
(https://www.ccsforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbr600rr.com%2Falbums%2Falbum33%2Fdscf0012.sized.jpg&hash=f1137883a71abe99caa152d14cb671f76c79ab61)

Here's my 450 a few weeks later:
(https://www.ccsforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbr600rr.com%2Fbambam%2Fdscf0077.jpg&hash=acf138d8fef138ba2665e19ac3caa3033a35cf3b)
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: SliderPhoto on October 19, 2004, 07:11:48 AM
I really hope to get out there this season!
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: Lowe119 on October 19, 2004, 07:22:52 AM
Anyone know where I can get a set of tyres made? I lost my contact info from the guy I met last year. I want the "good" tyres. Not just studs in my stock tyres.
I live by Wisconsin Dells and plan to race on the Wi river. www.swiraclub.com
Thanks
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: SliderPhoto on October 19, 2004, 07:34:59 AM
You might try doing a search. I know this was discussed last year about this time.
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: Pierre - Team PMR on October 19, 2004, 07:49:27 AM
ok, you got my attention!!!!  How do I get started?  I have a stock a YZ125 and live in Chicago Suburbs...what do I need to do to the bike?  Where do I go to race?  Is this for fun or is this organized and expensive?
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: Jeff on October 19, 2004, 08:49:33 AM
Jack, you bet!  You're just a phonecall away, I'll be calling you when we go out.  Sucks that we couldn't get good ice last year when we got together.

Tires... Yes, BUY THEM or have them made... Don't waste your time and $$ trying to make them yourself.

Jeff Ferdette (sp?) in Chicago makes excellent tires.  They're about $500/set if I recall correctly.

Stu (Stuie) who used to work at motosports factory makes awesome tires as well and is in the $350 range.  Basically you buy all the stuff and pay Stu to make them.  They take him about 25 hours to make!  Call Mark at Lake Country (262-547-3088) and tell him I sent you over.  Get Stu's contact info from him, and you can order your tires & studs through the shop.

As for racing?  It's mostly free fun.  There are some organized events, but I just enjoy riding free...
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: SliderPhoto on October 19, 2004, 11:10:03 AM
QuoteJack, you bet!  You're just a phonecall away, I'll be calling you when we go out.  Sucks that we couldn't get good ice last year when we got together..

Thanks man! I'll definitely take you up on that. I'll get some good pics too.
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: Kal on October 19, 2004, 01:18:14 PM
What's a good newbie bike to get for ice racing?  I'd like to have the hook up like Jeff has, but I don't see myself jaunting over and picking up a new cr450.
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: Protein Filled on October 19, 2004, 01:24:23 PM
Lots of people around here get TTR 125's or XR100's. Still a load of fun and odds are you won't get hurt if you go down.

It's kind of fun to jump from the CRF450 to the XR100. With the XR you have to be very precise with the throttle and try not to spin up the rear tire or you will end up standing still. Cornerspeed is the name of the game on the little bike. With the CRF, you can mess up and just power out and you won't lose so much ground.
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: Jeff on October 19, 2004, 02:30:36 PM
QuoteWhat's a good newbie bike to get for ice racing?

What do you have for a pitbike?  XR's of all shapes & sizes (down to 50's) are popular.  Personally I prefer a 4 stroke to a 2 stroke, but they both function well on the ice.

Quote I'd like to have the hook up like Jeff has, but I don't see myself jaunting over and picking up a new cr450.

I said the same thing...  Then I rode a 450...  Once was all it took...
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: cb186 on October 19, 2004, 02:41:39 PM
i prefer the big bikes too. i ride a yz450 and also have a ttr125l. i'm not sure i'm even going to bother putting ice tires on the TTR, since i like the violence of the 450 sooooo much.
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: putter on October 19, 2004, 07:49:39 PM
QuoteAre you kidding me? Ice riding is just awesome. A whole bunch of people get together here in MN every sunday and go Ice riding. On January 1st, ther is a big get together that gets around 80+ people out at a lake nbearby just to have fun. It really teaches you how to slide and throttle control. I own a CRF450 and an XR100 which I stud up every winter. I personally think I like it more than Roadracing...




Here is a pic of my bikes:

(https://www.ccsforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cra-mn.com%2Fforum%2Findex.php%3Fact%3Dmodule%26amp%3Bmodule%3Dgallery%26amp%3Bcmd%3Dviewimage%26amp%3Bimg%3D1150&hash=7f298521b63080e2e42af6c5760650f3ff44ab35)

And here is one of me and Gary Carter playing around:

(https://www.ccsforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cra-mn.com%2Fforum%2Findex.php%3Fact%3Dmodule%26amp%3Bmodule%3Dgallery%26amp%3Bcmd%3Dviewimage%26amp%3Bimg%3D1161&hash=6a2373cf0fe714ead436a30dda335505d999c291)

Anybody that wants to come to MN and play, you are more than welcome to. Contact Me or Tommy Mason and we can let you know when we start riding. There are always plenty of bikes to ride.



Hey I took those pics! I will be getting ice tires soon for my CRF so I won't have to borrow any bikes this year.
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: jer271 on October 19, 2004, 08:39:53 PM
Why wasnt I informed about this Edgar and to think I was calling a guy to go pick up my new snowmobile
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: Protein Filled on October 20, 2004, 06:44:36 AM
QuoteHey I took those pics! I will be getting ice tires soon for my CRF so I won't have to borrow any bikes this year.

Eric!!!,

You got a CRF? What size?



Hey Chad,

We should have some fun this year. Count me in whenever you decide to get riding. The only issue is the size of the tracks. Lot's of time, the tracks are so small it makes it hard to get going on the CRF.
BTW, Gary Carter and Mike Atlas both got YZF250's and I think Tommy is going to get one as well (at least that's the last I heard).


Maybe we should go visit Robbie up in Fargo. I think he will have ice in about a week or two...  ;D

Jeremy,

The reason you were not "informed" is cuz you suck. Go get yourself a bike and order some tires. Tommy can hook you up with Freddette's. BTW, check your PM's and call me, I need to talk to you about the GSXR...



Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: StumpysWife on October 20, 2004, 06:54:08 AM
I think I'll ship Stumpy and Johnson out your way this winter, Edgar.  If you guys do plan a Fargo trip, that would be a good time for them to meet up with you guys.  Stump needs to order up some tires for Dad's XR100--I think we're storing it for him this winter  ;D.

There's an oval ice racing series up here every Sunday in Gladstone.  A guy wants Stumpy to come ride his CRF450 sometime there.

We get great ice, but we get 3'+ of snow on top.   :P

Heather

Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: Jeff on October 20, 2004, 07:05:03 AM
QuoteWe get great ice, but we get 3'+ of snow on top.   :P

So is this different to the 8-10" stumpy said you get every night?   :o  :D  :D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: StumpysWife on October 20, 2004, 07:07:27 AM
QuoteSo is this different to the 8-10" stumpy said you get every night?   :o  :D  :D  ;D  ;D

In January-February, yes that pretty common!  Unless it's just too cold to snow.

Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: Jeff on October 20, 2004, 07:14:51 AM
LOL.... you're at the far end of the runway heather.  That one went right over your head. woohoo! LOL...
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: StumpysWife on October 20, 2004, 07:22:42 AM
QuoteLOL.... you're at the far end of the runway heather.  That one went right over your head. woohoo! LOL...


VERRRRRY FUNNY JEFF!

 ;D
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: cb186 on October 20, 2004, 07:37:23 AM
Edgar,
 
yeah, this year when i'm out building tracks, they're going to be alot bigger and faster than last years tracks were.
 i would love to go up to N.D. this winter a few times to go run with those guys.
 also i would like to keep the group i ride with smaller than what it ended up turning into at the end of last year.
 Putter got a CRF150.

chad.
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: putter on October 20, 2004, 09:07:26 AM
QuoteEric!!!,

You got a CRF? What size?



Hey Chad,

We should have some fun this year. Count me in whenever you decide to get riding. The only issue is the size of the tracks. Lot's of time, the tracks are so small it makes it hard to get going on the CRF.
BTW, Gary Carter and Mike Atlas both got YZF250's and I think Tommy is going to get one as well (at least that's the last I heard).


Maybe we should go visit Robbie up in Fargo. I think he will have ice in about a week or two...  ;D

Jeremy,

The reason you were not "informed" is cuz you suck. Go get yourself a bike and order some tires. Tommy can hook you up with Freddette's. BTW, check your PM's and call me, I need to talk to you about the GSXR...




Hey Edgar. I have a CRF150. I can't wait to get out out on the ice this year with it. I am thinkin I shoulda bought a 450 to keep up with the "big bikes".

I like the idea of bigger tracks this winter. Maybe Chad can build a jump with his wheeler and we can do some ice supermoto. 8)
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: Dawn on October 20, 2004, 09:12:54 AM
QuoteI said the same thing...  Then I rode a 450...  Once was all it took...

K3 rode Paul's 450 and you could hear him going "Whooo Hoooo Hoooo hoooo!" in the field.   ;D

Dawn   :)
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: cb186 on October 20, 2004, 09:25:59 AM
QuoteHey Edgar. I have a CRF150. I can't wait to get out out on the ice this year with it. I am thinkin I shoulda bought a 450 to keep up with the "big bikes".

I like the idea of bigger tracks this winter. Maybe Chad can build a jump with his wheeler and we can do some ice supermoto. 8)

Damn, i never thought of jumps PuttPutt. thats the best idea you've had since you had me drive Kerri back to the hotel!
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: Protein Filled on October 20, 2004, 10:26:28 AM
Yeah, knack-knack's on the ice would be cool! Who is willing to try it first?

Eric, the only issue with the one CRF150 that I rode is that the footpegs drag fairly easily, but you ride pretty hard so you should be able to keep up, unless the tracks are Robbie Jensen tracks, where you are wide open in 5th the whole time!

BTW, who is Kerri?  ;D  
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on October 20, 2004, 10:28:52 AM
I need an arrive and drive ride for this endurance race.  Anyone willing to let me crash their bike? ;D
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on October 20, 2004, 10:33:37 AM
QuoteK3 rode Paul's 450 and you could hear him going "Whooo Hoooo Hoooo hoooo!" in the field.   ;D

Dawn   :)
Busted!  Yeah, that was TOO much fun!
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: Dawn on October 20, 2004, 10:40:57 AM
QuoteI need an arrive and drive ride for this endurance race.  Anyone willing to let me crash their bike? ;D


Maybe.......

But Paul needs to find the funds to get his ice tires made first.  Then of course you would need to come up an practice on the little lakes we have around our house.

Dawn   ;)
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: cb186 on October 20, 2004, 10:46:50 AM
QuoteYeah, knack-knack's on the ice would be cool! Who is willing to try it first?

Eric, the only issue with the one CRF150 that I rode is that the footpegs drag fairly easily, but you ride pretty hard so you should be able to keep up, unless the tracks are Robbie Jensen tracks, where you are wide open in 5th the whole time!

BTW, who is Kerri?  ;D  

wide open tracks, thats what i'm talkin about.

Kerri is Putters girlfriend(of about 9 years)

don't wory, PuttPutts pegs will only get close to the ice when it sliding on the barends.
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: putter on October 20, 2004, 04:42:14 PM
Once again Chad makes a funny. ::)

Kerri is the gal friend and Chad's wanna be girlfriend. ;D


I have been looking into the peg issue. Seems like I am not the only one with the peg dragging problem. I'll figure something out.

This winter is gonna rock!
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: cb186 on October 20, 2004, 05:51:07 PM
Kerri is just a friend..................























with bennies!
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: putter on October 20, 2004, 06:30:16 PM
She just told me you are naughty. I don't know if that's good or bad. :o
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: cb186 on October 20, 2004, 06:30:58 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: Grover on October 20, 2004, 08:30:21 PM
Anyplace close to the cheddar curtain (that's the WI/IL border) do this?  Any sprint races or leagues.  Crap, just what I need, something MORE to spend money on.  I thought winter was supposed to be for saving money for road racing?? :)

Where's some good ice racing information?  Where to get/make tires, jetting, etc.

I WILL get this CR125 going soon.  

-Chris  
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: Super Dave on October 20, 2004, 08:48:46 PM
We ride at http://www.sportsmanspark.net

Not to far from Lake Geneva.

Just play time.  TTR125's and TTR90's 'cause that's what everyone has.

I guess we do have some races.  There's a cut off section for the TTR90's to keep the HP deficit close...
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: Grover on October 21, 2004, 08:04:50 PM
LBK... you read that!!!  No excuses now!  Darien is just up the street.  

SuperDave, you don't have to worry about Dave and I with the 125s..I have virtually no experience with dirt riding.  I actually had a kid on a PW50 pull away from me, and I won't mention how much faster that kid on the CR50 was!

-Chris
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: am_#65_john_deere on October 21, 2004, 08:30:53 PM
check out the classifieds for a good set of used Furdette's (my spelling might not be perfect)

Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: Racingxtc7 on October 22, 2004, 08:59:23 AM
Where is the closest Ice racing to Chicago?
Title: Re: Ice roadracing
Post by: Jeff on October 22, 2004, 11:23:18 AM
Remove the word "racing" from your question and you have your answer...

Quite literally anywhere there's ice...  There are many people who gather at lakes in S.E. WI which would be about 1 - 1.5hrs drive for you...