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Racing Discussion => Racing Discussion => Topic started by: OmniGLH on September 15, 2004, 10:18:10 AM

Title: My next truck - the ULTIMATE tow vehicle
Post by: OmniGLH on September 15, 2004, 10:18:10 AM
I've found my next vehicle.

The International 7300 CXT.

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From their website:  http://www.internationaldelivers.com/site_layout/severe/cxt.asp

POSSIBLY TOO MUCH TRUCK. LIKE THAT'S A PROBLEM.

Your eyes don't deceive you. It's a pickup truck. From International. Which makes it much more than a pickup truck. It's an International®CXT – born out of the proven International 7300 severe service truck used by professionals for the most rugged applications.

So you get all the attributes of a commercial truck – but you don't need a commercial driver's license to drive it.*

The legendary International®DT 466 diesel engine provides up to 6 tons of hauling power.**The air-ride cab and seats provide an exceptionally smooth ride. And aspacious and well-appointed interior ensures automotive-like comfort and convenience.

The result of more than a century of leadership in the truck market, the International CXT delivers performance. In a big way

*State restrictions may apply. Talk to your local motor vehicle department.


I'll take mine with the HT-570 instead of the 466, though.  340hp and 1,150ft-lbs.  ;D
Title: Re: My next truck - the ULTIMATE tow vehicle
Post by: Woofentino Pugrossi on September 15, 2004, 10:30:53 AM
Naw Jim, thats too small.  ;D

That and International sucks. ;D

Buy a MANS truck. ;D

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 ;D ;D
Title: Re: My next truck - the ULTIMATE tow vehicle
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on September 15, 2004, 10:43:08 AM
On a slightly more realistic note, I should be buying a motorhome tonight or tomorrow.  It's a 1979 Champion Class A.  25 feet for $2500, or $100 per foot!
The previous owners used it like a summer cottage.  they parked it at a campsite from spring to fall, and commuted in their car.  As a result, it's pretty worn inside, but only has 16,000 miles on the drivetrain.  The 440 Dodge motor just purrs, and the 727 tranny shifts sweet.  Every last thing on this motorhome is in working order.  I've been looking at used RVs for about five years, and this is the nicest $2500 unit I've ever seen.
With a bit of luck, the big bomber will be making her debut this weekend at the Wegman.
Screw it!  If I can't be fast, at least i can be comfortable! :D
Title: Re: My next truck - the ULTIMATE tow vehicle
Post by: OmniGLH on September 15, 2004, 10:44:02 AM
Nah, I'd need a CDL for that.  Plus if I ever wanted to haul anything, I'd have to have a trailer.  Funk dat.

I'm gonna see if I can get a demo 7300 for the weekend.... ;D
Title: Re: My next truck - the ULTIMATE tow vehicle
Post by: motobenco on September 15, 2004, 11:08:42 AM
nope, this is all you

http://terrawind.com/

just need a trailer to match
Title: Re: My next truck - the ULTIMATE tow vehicle
Post by: Baltobuell on September 15, 2004, 12:22:46 PM
OMG! I guess that's what you do if you just have too many buckets of money laying around one of your many waterfront houses.
Title: Re: My next truck - the ULTIMATE tow vehicle
Post by: OmniGLH on September 15, 2004, 12:30:33 PM
Good Lord what in the heck did they do to that Excursion?!
Title: Re: My next truck - the ULTIMATE tow vehicle
Post by: motobenco on September 15, 2004, 04:52:33 PM
wait, they are working on a trailer that floats.
Title: Re: My next truck - the ULTIMATE tow vehicle
Post by: Bernie on September 15, 2004, 08:31:30 PM
I have wood.   I'd drive around looking for H2 geeks and shoot them the bird!  ;D
Title: Re: My next truck - the ULTIMATE tow vehicle
Post by: GSXR RACER MIKE on September 15, 2004, 10:13:10 PM
     That thing looks somewhat similar to the Ford SuperCruiser and the GM Kodiak. What really sucks is that without a CDL in Illinois you can't exceed 26,000# Gross Combined Weight of truck and trailer and 10,000# Gross Weight of the trailer alone. Vehicles registered for over 8,000# in Illinois have to be safety inspected every 6 months, and any trailer registered for over 5000# must also be safety inspected every 6 months. Any vehicle or combination of vehicle and towed vehicle/trailer that weighs over 16,000# must stop at weigh stations in Illinois. I have been speaking with the Illinois State Police and the Secretary of State Police about these facts over the last week.

     For those that think that 16,000# is excessive think about it this way, my Ford F-250 Crew Cab is 7500# with a full tank of gas and me in it (truck has a GVWR of #8800) which therefor requires me to get a 'D' license plate (8000# - 12,000#) to be legal for any towing what so ever. If you have a trailer that is 8000# when fully loaded, and your pulling it with the previously mentioned F-250, then your within a few hundred pounds of being 16,000#.

     RV laws are very vague and I was not up to speed on their general requirements until this last week. I was going to put a living quarter in my next trailer so I could get an RV plate, but found out that an RV can't legally transport anything (like a motorcycle or car). This is why the toyhauler type trucks and trailers can't legally be driven in Illinois with RV plates. Though the weights that would normally require a CDL in Illinois don't apply to true RV's (trucks or trailers), you still have to have the vehicle inspected every 6 months and any driver must carry a medical card. So many laws that so many people are unaware of that can result in your vehicle being held until it is legal to drive (such as needing to be inspected).

     Sorry for kinda going postal on that response, but after finding this stuff out I realized how lucky I have been not to have been pulled over! :o
Title: Re: My next truck - the ULTIMATE tow vehicle
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on September 16, 2004, 03:12:32 AM
I like the amphibious motorhome.  Perfect for when the Buxtons ot Team Stumpy need to go to Gingerman or Grattan.
I wonder what it would cost to insure a motorhome that can sail across open water?

Honey, I sank the motor coach.... :o
Title: Re: My next truck - the ULTIMATE tow vehicle
Post by: Jeff on September 16, 2004, 06:49:54 AM
Gulfstream Endura...

With the duramax turbo diesel 300hp / 520lbf-ft.  Allison 5spd auto tranny on the GM Kodiak chassis.  You won't find another class C like it...  10,000lb towing capacity (while WET!).

Coming to Kufalk media March, 2005.....

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Title: Re: My next truck - the ULTIMATE tow vehicle
Post by: r1owner on September 16, 2004, 01:55:06 PM
QuoteGulfstream Endura...

With the duramax turbo diesel 300hp / 520lbf-ft.  Allison 5spd auto tranny on the GM Kodiak chassis.  You won't find another class C like it...  10,000lb towing capacity (while WET!).

Coming to Kufalk media March, 2005.....

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Now THAT is sweet!  Is this the only class C with a diesel?

Title: Re: My next truck - the ULTIMATE tow vehicle
Post by: GSXR RACER MIKE on September 16, 2004, 02:05:07 PM
They have that same model Endura here at a local motorhome dealer in Rockford, Illinois. I went and checked it out, but the $100,000 price tag is a bit expensive for me right now! :o
Title: Re: My next truck - the ULTIMATE tow vehicle
Post by: Dawn on September 16, 2004, 04:12:39 PM
QuoteI like the amphibious motorhome.  Perfect for when the Buxtons ot Team Stumpy need to go to Gingerman or Grattan.
I wonder what it would cost to insure a motorhome that can sail across open water?

Honey, I sank the motor coach.... :o

Whaaa Haaaa Haaaa Haaa!!!!!

Oh my!  I was thinking the same thing!   ;D

ooooo scary isn't it!

 ;)
Title: Re: My next truck - the ULTIMATE tow vehicle
Post by: Dawn on September 16, 2004, 04:15:19 PM
Quote         RV laws are very vague and I was not up to speed on their general requirements until this last week. I was going to put a living quarter in my next trailer so I could get an RV plate, but found out that an RV can't legally transport anything (like a motorcycle or car). This is why the toyhauler type trucks and trailers can't legally be driven in Illinois with RV plates. Though the weights that would normally require a CDL in Illinois don't apply to true RV's (trucks or trailers), you still have to have the vehicle inspected every 6 months and any driver must carry a medical card. So many laws that so many people are unaware of that can result in your vehicle being held until it is legal to drive (such as needing to be inspected).

    

I wonder how they would treat the FunMover which is a specifically built Class C RV to haul motorcycles?


Title: Re: My next truck - the ULTIMATE tow vehicle
Post by: GSXR RACER MIKE on September 16, 2004, 09:25:29 PM
QuoteI wonder how they would treat the FunMover which is a specifically built Class C RV to haul motorcycles?

     Dawn, I was very curious about that very subject too, since I had been told by an RV place that you could haul bikes in a funmover with an RV plate.

     Both the Illinois State Police and the Secretary of State Police departments that I have spoken with were without a doubt in agreeance that you could not haul anything other than that which is considered normal for recreational use with any RV plate. They both stated that hauling anything like a motorcycle is considered a product (even though you technically are using it for recreation) and requires a non-RV plate to be legal. They both mentioned also that just because the salesman says that you can transport a 'product' with an RV plate doesn't make it legal and that many people come to them complaining that they were told otherwise by the salesman before they bought the RV (usually finding this out after being ticketed or warned for hauling a 'product' with an RV plate).

     I was led to believe by both Police departments that just because an RV is capable of hauling a 'product' it doesn't mean that you can do it legally with an RV plate. I am still curious were the line is drawn as far as what is considered a 'product' and is considered used for recreation, but I didn't inquire further due to this not being the direction I was looking to go. I would think that an ATV or Moto-X bike being used legally at a State Park would be considered recreational? I would also think that a vehicle being towed by an RV as a 2nd source of transportation for use while at that park would be legal also? But both of those are questions that I didn't ask so I don't know. :-/
Title: Re: My next truck - the ULTIMATE tow vehicle
Post by: EX#996 on September 17, 2004, 05:27:25 AM
Thank goodness I don't live in Illinois.  It seems like they got their undies in bundle over something pretty minor....

If the FunMover which has a bed, refridgerator, sink, stove, shower, toilet, furnace, ect. is NOT considered an RV perhaps the law makers need a lesson as to what an RV actually is.  ::)

Dawn
Title: Re: My next truck - the ULTIMATE tow vehicle
Post by: calvin669 on September 18, 2004, 09:39:16 AM
I seen a slightly downscaled model of a truck just like that, Chevrolet makes it.
Title: Re: My next truck - the ULTIMATE tow vehicle
Post by: porky on September 18, 2004, 02:14:21 PM
dodge srt 10 ram truck    500hp  w/six-speed, just picked mine up.
Title: Re: My next truck - the ULTIMATE tow vehicle
Post by: Jeff on September 20, 2004, 06:48:32 AM
The smaller endura with the diesel package (incl 5.5kw diesel gen) is in the LOW 80's around here (and that's BEFORE dickering).

If they're quoting +$100k, it's retail price, and you can tell them to take the leather out...