Man, wanted to do this race all year, heard all about the "rollercoaster". :( Dang bills!
I wasn't able to make it down.
sitting at home !!!
The Buxton's are at home too. No $$$ :-/
Dawn :)
Same here.
I'm missing it also. :(
I was planning on going, but I didn't realize racing started on Friday. Can't get enough time off from work for that.
Missing it myself. But then I'm not to thrilled about driving that far without a 'crew' just in case I boo-boo again. That and no racing for me anymore this year. :(
ME! Grrr. I'll be at Blackhawk for sure.
Jeff
Me neither. :'(
Yeah... I have to be a Best Man in a wedding tomorrow. I told the bride that there was only ONE weekend that I could not attend. I suppose that was just asking for disaster. :-/
QuoteI wasn't able to make it down.
You got to do Road America this week at least. :-/ I've been on my street bike picking up bad habbits ;)
Misery (sp?) love company, especially if they aren't racing either! ;D
I'm here at home. But after 500 or so miles at Road A, I could use the rest. ;) ;D
Sitting here at home :'(,wishing I was in Ala.
I'm sitting here in Mississippi 2.5 hrs away, but I just can't spend anymore money racing this year, plus I start year 2 of veterinary school monday, fun fun!
PSSSSSSSSSSSSSST
I love it!!!!!! having a good time. The rolloercosater is cake but T5 is a BEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOTCH oh and I'm drunk....... BUT IT SUCKS cause I MISS SD!!
The MW boys are fast as sh@t here.. All the races have been great and close. Filled with a lot of run offs in T5 and the fast sections.
Kick some ace Mel! :D
Me (a nasty burn on my foot) and my bike (bent forks) are still recovering from a crash at Roebling. Still almost went as a spectator.
Hey, cabbage996, where at in Mississippi? I am in sportbike (or lack thereof) hell in Pascagoula.
ceesthadees
I'm in the sportbike hell of Starkvegas, I mean Starkville. I went riding yesterday and found a road with about 1 curve per 5 miles, so that was exciting ::)
I can't believe anyone didn't go. I thought everyone was there. There were so many bikes. I think they said that there was someone from every state. I talked to people who drive from California and Oregon, etc. The side car dudes kicked butt! It was an awesome weekend.
... a sanctioning body capable of running a National level event was also missing and nowhere to be found.... anyone else notice ???
Yes, Photo Chick, the sidecars where absolutely amazing to watch.. those guys/gals are truley nuts.
To bad they to where sacrificed (like everyone else) for the betterment of the track schools.... :-[
[quote}... a sanctioning body capable of running a National level event was also missing and nowhere to be found.... anyone else notice [/quote]
I think you need to get your facts straight before you start making such statements. The staff that put on this event did their very best with what they had to work with, had you asked someone we would have explained to you the "new" conditions we had to work with. It is not our fault when riders wreck and cause red flags but the staff and cornerworkers work hard to clean up the messes and get back on schedule and when the track management changes the available track time what do we do then!&? Did you attend the riders meeting where it was annouced that there would be no more riders schools at an FUSA event or were you one of the many mising riders? There were almost 400 riders this weekend and maybe a 3rd of them showed up at riders meetings.
What no Stumpy at Barber! What the hell. Stumpy where are you. You missed a great time of racing. Perfect racing conditions.......
Quote... a sanctioning body capable of running a National level event was also missing and nowhere to be found.... anyone else notice
I think you need to get your facts straight before you start making such statements. The staff that put on this event did their very best with what they had to work with, had you asked someone we would have explained to you the "new" conditions we had to work with. It is not our fault when riders wreck and cause red flags but the staff and cornerworkers work hard to clean up the messes and get back on schedule and when the track management changes the available track time what do we do then!&? Did you attend the riders meeting where it was annouced that there would be no more riders schools at an FUSA event or were you one of the many mising riders? There were almost 400 riders this weekend and maybe a 3rd of them showed up at riders meetings.
Buff
I have a question: I know the whole team challge thing was an issue but why did getting the results of that race take priority over the results of races that were completed way before the team challe event started?
Hi Smoke
I wish I could tell you that. I had taken a rider upstairs to get his laptimes and race results and I was told that they were working on completing the team challenge results and at that moment it took priority, it might possibly have had something to do with the number of "protests" and the meeting with some of the team captains and higher powers of CSS were having. It was really hectic in that room. :o I am sure it was frustrating and I am sorry. I know that is not much of an answer but I will make a few inquires and try to get more information. Will that be okay, it may be tomorrow....
Thanks
QuoteI was told that they were working on completing the team challenge results and at that moment it took priority....
Credit where credit is due...
The individuals that actually do "hand scoring" are usually right on the money.
Buffy I attended ALL the riders meetings, and the
after the fact" solution did no one any good especially the TC participants that spent thousands on thier eventss. My issue concerns the lack of accurate and timely information given by CCS. I have no issue with the expert handling of crashes by the corner workers, they were top notch. The issue with most riders was the appearance that CCS was catering to the trackday schools by cutting our practice time, rescheduling races for the following day which further added to the disorganization and discontent, cutting the GTL race from 25 minutes, to 20 minutes then ultimately a 6 lap sprint race. Was there ever an instance whereby the @12 trackschool attendees were asked to sacrifice their track time for the "1200 entries" that CCS boasted on Friday morning?....I thought not. As for not have a school during a NAtional Event that is well and good but does nothing to rectify the lost monies spent. I feel the great sympathy for the sidecar teams that treked across the country from Califronia. Face it CCS dropped the ball BIGTIME .
And what is CCS going to do to make last weekend right with the many racers who feel that they were ripped off?....now, not in the future.
Refunds to the TC, discounted Racers Licences for 2005, discounted entry fees for upcoming events or how about a formal apology....
Dave Swarts wrote in RRW about the CCS bungling
of this event :
"....The overriding theme of the day, however, was disorganization, which led to only six of the eight scheduled races being run and only four of the races running to their scheduled distance.
The weekend was fouled up from the beginning, with professional racers arriving for Thursday promoter practice to be told that the practice day being run by Cornerspeed and the racetrack was full and that no more riders could enter. Friday practice was made more complicated by the inclusion of Learning Curves school sessions on track, between practice sessions, and the fact that Learning Curves sessions were given operational priority.
"We fell behind early and were never able to catch up," said CCS/F-USA boss Kevin Elliot.
In addition to the normal, unforeseen race-day delays caused by crashes and track clean-ups, the day was put behind schedule from the start by more racers (over 400) than the expected 250-275 showing up for the event, causing a shortage of electronic scoring transponders and scoring problems throughout the day as transponders were swapped from racer to racer.
As of 7:30 p.m. local time, official results were only available for two races.
The troubled day culminated with the Formula USA Team Challenge endurance race, which was scheduled for 250 kilometers, or 67 laps, but lasted all of 45 minutes and 30 laps.
Elliot said delays in the schedule and the track's 5:00 p.m. curfew forced him to shorten the Team Challenge race to 60 minutes, but race teams complained that they were not informed the race was shortened until after it had started and their race strategies had been put in play.
"We didn't get to go after it (the race) the way we wanted to," said Himmelsbach Racing's Michael Himmelsbach, who was slated to ride the third and anchor leg for his Championship-contending team but didn't get to ride at all. "This is the second time they made the decision to shorten this race without letting us know.
"I haven't heard from one person who heard them announce that the race was shortened until after it was started."
Race director Phil Sberna said it was announced over the public address system that the Team Challenge race was shortened before the race actually started, but he admitted that he did not realize the P.A. system was inaudible on pit lane, where most of the Team Challenge participants were at the time of the announcement.
"That was our mistake," said Sberna.
Elliott and Sberna held round-table meetings with disgruntled racers at the end of the day.
Unofficially, Celtic Racing's Des Conboy and Simon Turner took the overall and GTU class wins in the Team Challenge race on a Pirelli-shod Yamaha YZF-R6.
Conboy said his team did not hear the announcement that the race was shortened, but "we had it covered. We had a yellow (hard-compound Pirelli) on the rear, and I was riding conservative. I wanted to give Simon enough tire to finish. Barring any problem, we would've had it."
The Team Challenge race at Barber was further shortened by a red flag with less than 15 minutes remaining in the race.
http://venus.13x.com/roadracingworld/scripts/NewsInsert.asp?insert=10241
Fortunately our out of pocket expenses were nominal compared with most teams which lessens our frustrations, but for the Tom Valleys who flew in riders and crew members and his costs associated with running 2 TC bikes only for a 45 minute "race". Those are the people/teams that suffered the most.
as for those racers which did not attend the riders meetings.. Fine them in the same manner that KE did at Roebling last month. Call out a few names from a enrty list, fine them $20.00 for not attending the racers meeting, then donate the cash to the Wegman Fund....now that was a class act by K.E that got the racers attention.
QuoteWhat no Stumpy at Barber! What the hell. Stumpy where are you. You missed a great time of racing. Perfect racing conditions.......
Stumpy was racing in perfect conditions...at the Ore to Shore Mountain Bike epic!
Definitely not CCS...1,000 people started the 28 mile race he was in. Stumpy started with about 600 in front of him and ended up 130 overall of 860 finishers and 8th in his age group. The terrian is varied from old railroad grades to sandy hills to rutted trails. Not bad for his first year!
Here he goes through the aid station with about 5 miles left...
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And after the race...
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I think he's found another addiction!!!!!
Heather
Bet he doesn't go thru as many tires on the mountain bike as ne does the 600RR! ;D
Does Vortex make sprockets for Mountain Bikes? ;D
QuoteBet he doesn't go thru as many tires on the mountain bike as ne does the 600RR! ;D
Does Vortex make sprockets for Mountain Bikes? ;D
Oh believe me, the bicycle indrustry has lots of manufactureres ready to take your money, just like anything moto related. :o ;) ;D
Heather, tell Stumpy he can have only one addiction. Non motorized two wheel racing can get JUST as expensive as thye motorized kind. ;) Stop the madnesss......
Who hear actually thinks that something will not get ^%$^ ed up at a CCS event. I EXPECT IT !
Just assume you will not get your money worth, the races might not be run o most likely shortened, The schedule is an assumption thats all, you'll get your race results in a few weeks/months when thier posted on the web.
That way your not disapointed with the weekend, and you can focus on having fun !! After all this is a Club event, which means its the last thing from being profesional as it can get ! No matter what CCS tells ya !
This is for fun and thats all! IF its not then go somewhere else of do something else !
QuoteBet he doesn't go thru as many tires on the mountain bike as ne does the 600RR! ;D
Does Vortex make sprockets for Mountain Bikes? ;D
Oh, I caught Boopsie checking out Michelins for the mountain bike the other night.
If there's a Vortex sprocket to be found for the Trek, I'm sure he'll have it. ;)
Heather
QuoteOh believe me, the bicycle indrustry has lots of manufactureres ready to take your money, just like anything moto related. :o ;) ;D
Heather, tell Stumpy he can have only one addiction. Non motorized two wheel racing can get JUST as expensive as thye motorized kind. ;) Stop the madnesss......
Yup, there were lots of $4,000+ bikes to be found there.
He did get lots of backin' it in experience--not to mention the endurance training.
In Marquette, mountain biking is huge. Either you embrace it or you're blind!
Heed this warning: When he gets a carbon fibre frame with hydrolic disc brakes, there will be no turning back. :o ;) ;D
Heather, did you just call Greg "Boopsie"?!
hmmm...
QuoteHeather, did you just call Greg "Boopsie"?!
hmmm...
I learned it from you!
;D
You tell it sista!
Had that addiction alonnnnnggg time ago only on road racing bicycles. In fact I still have the 1977 Schwinn Paramount P-13 with full Campy Super Record equipment. (Waiting for it to become a collectors item!)
Doesn't seem like that much money now, but putting $1700 into a bicycle in 1977 was pretty addicted. (stoopid?? ???) To put it into context, In 1976 I bought a brand new Plymouth Volare Station Wagon for about $4000. Let's see.... same car now would be about $15-16K.... so thats about like putting $6000-$6800 into a bicycle!! ;D
So much for life before kids and house payments and other addictions ;D
Oh, but of course I got the bike with Hydrolic Disc brakes. Man can I get that thing sideways ;D I also got used to people handing me water during the race, maybe next year we can set that up for CCS :D
Stumpy
QuoteYou tell it sista!
Had that addiction alonnnnnggg time ago only on road racing bicycles. In fact I still have the 1977 Schwinn Paramount P-13 with full Campy Super Record equipment. (Waiting for it to become a collectors item!)
Doesn't seem like that much money now, but putting $1700 into a bicycle in 1977 was pretty addicted. (stoopid?? ???) To put it into context, In 1976 I bought a brand new Plymouth Volare Station Wagon for about $4000. Let's see.... same car now would be about $15-16K.... so thats about like putting $6000-$6800 into a bicycle!! ;D
So much for life before kids and house payments and other addictions ;D
Would you like to buy a 50th anniversary Paramount windbreaker? I think we're going to put Roger's up for sale. Size XL, black satin with multi color embroidery.