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Title: WERA thread needs straigtened out about Tez
Post by: tigerblade on July 26, 2004, 02:03:42 PM
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Title: Re: The WERA boys need straigtened out about Tez
Post by: Woofentino Pugrossi on July 26, 2004, 02:50:19 PM
Basically the same on a few other boards I frequent. BFD if he is friends with Mr Jordan and he is sponsoring Tez. THats between them. I dont understand why some people seem to think because of who owns the team, that Tez should be in the top 5 every race. Then the BS about, "He shouldnt be racing there", "He sucks", "He only got that ride because he is MJ's friend", yadda yadda yadda. Some people are just complete dolts.
Title: Re: The WERA boys need straigtened out about Tez
Post by: cardzilla on July 26, 2004, 02:57:20 PM
I agree, Tez and Jordan can do whatever they want, it is a free country.  Every one wants to make it big time, but his attempt at making up for lack of speed by going bonzai into turn 1 at mid-ohio and taking out two guys... unacceptable.  True fast guys do it smooth as glass, kamikaze only gets you a helicopter ride to the hospital.
Title: Re: The WERA boys need straigtened out about Tez
Post by: r6_philly on July 26, 2004, 03:03:31 PM
QuoteI agree, Tez and Jordan can do whatever they want, it is a free country.  Every one wants to make it big time, but his attempt at making up for lack of speed by going bonzai into turn 1 at mid-ohio and taking out two guys... unacceptable.  True fast guys do it smooth as glass, kamikaze only gets you a helicopter ride to the hospital.

he lost the front and hit 1 guy, and the other ran off the track. There is a difference if he just go straight ahead and t-bones one guy. I don't really see it being "bonzai" move, I guess you have never started a race in the back of a 30+ people field all trying to go fast right? If you want to see 30+ people ride around safely and not make any mistakes, I don't know what to tell ya... if someone can ride well within his limits and qualify for a AMA national, I say push closer to the limit and finish up front!

Make up for lack of speed? If everyone who is lacking speed should stay lacking speed then we should all quit and pick up chess instead.
Title: Re: The WERA boys need straigtened out about Tez
Post by: Jeff on July 26, 2004, 03:24:14 PM
I don't know that I'd say the WERA boyS (plural) need to be straightened out.  It was only one person who typed in all caps.  Jeezus, I can't take anyone serious who types in all caps in this day and age...

Bottom line, Tez might not be that AMA-fast, but he's out there improving and doing pretty well IMHO.  I don't think Jordan expected podium finishes, or he'd have bought known talent.
Title: Re: The WERA boys need straigtened out about Tez
Post by: Chef on July 26, 2004, 03:55:49 PM
Wussup Kris?!,
Racers KNOW that it's TUFF to go to a new track and beat the locals!!! not to mention, National guys who've been around for a few years....

AND !!!!!.....

Mike Jordan is REALLY a cool kat!!! (not ALL business as most would think)...  

Would you loan, or give your buddy 5 or 50 bucks??

Tell you what....   Had I been given the chance..
I'd take it, as any hopeful would.....

(would I mind all the yapping Haters?)
(maybe, maybe not.... BUT, I'd know that my attention wasnt where it should be)

dont ask me why I chimed in here, just wanted to comment, I like the sound of my typing
 :P

Tez,
Kick BUTT, Go Fast, Be Safe....
Be Smooth, Have Fun!, drop some seconds, and some weight (wait, you are slim)... uhm...
have fun (did I say that?).. Be safe.. Kick Butt...
nevermind the haters, they just wanna be Mike's friend too....
(probably not, now that I think of it, they just want his money)....

ok, I babbled....

neeexxtt......


 :)

Title: Re: The WERA boys need straigtened out about Tez
Post by: spyderchick on July 26, 2004, 04:29:45 PM
Check out my reply to that thread. (as follows)

A little info on Tez. Yes, he is sponsored by Jordan, but he and Casmay run the team. It's incrediblely difficult to run at any pro level, especially the classes Tez runs in AMA. (Supersport and Superstock). Doing as well as he has been has been a struggle.

Tez is fortunate to have really good machines under him, but he came in to the AMA with a bit of a handicap being a respectably fast regional CCS rider. Aside from Road America, if Tez had been to even one other track on the circuit, I'd be surprised. Throw in the new track learning curve for any rider and I'm sure you can appreciate the difficulties involved in getting through the qualifying not to mention attemping to be competitive in that crowd of riders.

Tez has been hampered with two injuries, one from Daytona (broken shoulder), and one later in the season (broken wrist). I'm sure Tez feels great frustration not being able to ride to his fullest capacity due to repeated injuries.

With good fortune comes great responsibility. Tez is trying to be the best ambassador for the sport possible. Judging from the response at Road America, he's doing very well with that.

Anyone who roadraces at any level has to be commended for their accomplishments. It's a much more complex sport than it appears on the surface. Having one of the local fast boyz make good has got to be one of the coolest things to see. Their goal was to qualify well and compete, and they've succeeded. I'm sure the next goal is to become competitive next year. To do that WITHOUT factory support would be no less than awesome.

Title: Re: The WERA boys need straigtened out about Tez
Post by: cornercamping on July 26, 2004, 05:17:05 PM
"Dude, I wish. Tez is HOT!
Naw, I just fixed his leathers. Tez's ole lady.....teeheehee"


;D
Title: Re: The WERA boys need straigtened out about Tez
Post by: spyderchick on July 26, 2004, 07:12:28 PM
What? Tez is hot.  ;) ;D ;D ;D
I'd hit that. :o ;)
Title: Re: The WERA boys need straigtened out about Tez
Post by: Woofentino Pugrossi on July 26, 2004, 07:39:01 PM
QuoteWhat? Tez is hot.  ;) ;D ;D ;D
I'd hit that. :o ;)


I'm telling Roger. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The WERA boys need straigtened out about Tez
Post by: spyderchick on July 26, 2004, 07:44:48 PM
Are you kidding? He already knows!  :o
He can look and I can look. Makes life alot more fun. ;)

(So now you guys are gonna wonder if I'm lookin'...)
Title: Re: The WERA boys need straigtened out about Tez
Post by: cornercamping on July 26, 2004, 09:10:37 PM
Does team Jordan or whatever have a website  ???
Title: Re: The WERA boys need straigtened out about Tez
Post by: Nate R on July 27, 2004, 03:12:45 AM
Not really.

Only site I know of is for the brand.

www.jumpman23.com

Title: Re: The WERA boys need straigtened out about Tez
Post by: SliderPhoto on July 27, 2004, 04:56:50 AM
Quote(So now you guys are gonna wonder if I'm lookin'...)

I thought all those inseam measurements were a bit superfluous.  :o :P ;D
Title: Re: The WERA boys need straigtened out about Tez
Post by: spyderchick on July 27, 2004, 06:04:56 AM
QuoteI thought all those inseam measurements were a bit superfluous.  :o :P ;D

Jack. I'm surprised. I am the consumate professional.  :P

Actually, those inseam measurements ARE necessary. Just not when I'm putting your name on the back of your leathers. :o ;) ;D
Title: Re: The WERA boys need straigtened out about Tez
Post by: tigerblade on July 27, 2004, 06:10:21 AM
Actually, I didn't mean it to turn into a discussion Tez's riding ability.  Just thought someone here who actually knows the story (Ike, etc.) could give them the real details of the relationship so they aren't speculating.   Like someone thought he was from California, etc.  ;)
Title: Re: The WERA boys need straigtened out about Tez
Post by: tigerblade on July 27, 2004, 06:12:35 AM
QuoteI don't know that I'd say the WERA boyS (plural) need to be straightened out.  

Right, I should have said that THREAD needed some straightening out.   8)
Title: Re: The WERA boys need straigtened out about Tez
Post by: spyderchick on July 27, 2004, 06:29:36 AM
Hi Kris. We're all pretty smart and we figured it out.  ;) Most of the folks over there weren't really slammin' Tez. Just a little curiosity. You go pro and we'll have your back too! ;) ;D
Title: Re: The WERA boys need straigtened out about Tez
Post by: motomadness on July 27, 2004, 06:35:43 AM
I've probably talked to Tez more than most about how the season has been.  For one, his enthusiasm hasn't waned.  He told me he chose Supersport/stock because they were the most competitive classes.  He knew he would struggle, but accepted the challenge and has qualified at every round.  For just learning tracks for the first time, that says a lot about his talent.  The fact that he is finishing in the lower part of the field says a lot about the depth of talent.  Many people would have quit a long time ago, but Tez knows he and his team are bringing new light to the AMA.  That's very evident in the fans that are constantly crowding his pit.

In time, and when he is truly 100% healthy, we'll really see where his talent will take him, and I will  be there to support him, and other privateers like him.
Title: Re: The WERA boys need straigtened out about Tez
Post by: tigerblade on July 27, 2004, 06:35:45 AM
QuoteHi Kris. We're all pretty smart and we figured it out.  ;) Most of the folks over there weren't really slammin' Tez. Just a little curiosity. You go pro and we'll have your back too! ;) ;D

I'll be doing good to get white plates next year.   Thanks though.  :P ;D
Title: Re: WERA thread needs straigtened out about Tez
Post by: spyderchick on July 27, 2004, 07:25:24 AM
Hey Monsta. I agree. The folks who "get it", get it. I'm glad to hear that Tez is in good spirits. I was just thinkin' about calling him the other day after Mid-Ohio to see if he needed a pep talk.

Kris, all you need is a measly 750 points!  ;D
Title: Re: WERA thread needs straigtened out about Tez
Post by: Super Dave on July 27, 2004, 08:41:56 AM
I throw in my perspective.

First, if you have an expert license, well, you're basically a pro.  You may not be able to compete at that level (AMA) but you have the opportunity to try.

Through my grape vine, I heard some things happening and speculated upon what would happen.

First, great deal for Tez.  I have raced with him:  he's beat me, I've beat him.  I recognize some of the things he does right and what he does struggle with.  I'm not a know it all, but I've been around this sport competing every year since 1987.  I learned a lot from trying to complete a task.  I'm certainly not gifted.  This stuff has always been hard.  There are faster riders.

So, here's my take.

Tez has been placed in the opportunity to have some things supplied to him.  He has to apply his ability.  Everything is basically new, so you don't necessarily end up being confident about it all.  Additionally, the structure is there to give him some things that he needs...but he doesn't have a big or small name riding coach there telling him that he needs to do one thing or another.  When I was doing a lot of AMA stuff, I could always go back to my guy, Dale Quarterley.  He always took some time to go watch something I did someplace and then if I had a question he knew how to answer it.  Might be related to how I was doing things and might have been related to my state of mind.

That was my job last year with Safety First Racing.  We didn't have data aquision, so I would try to glean some info from the guys, speculate on the problem, try to make changes to the bike, or the rider.  Sometimes, you've got to ride with a smile...you're certainly payin' a lot of money for the opportunity to ride, so have fun...

I was hoping to see some changes in Tez's riding that would be condusive to his going faster.  I want to see someone helping him do better, going faster.

As for the WERA guys whining...

Monday evening after MAM, Robbie Jensen and I were talking.  Hey, he made, what, $120k last year racing for contingency money.

Anyway, I made the comment that I should pick up the pace and run with him, which is how it works.  I could make some cash.  He got mildly pumped up...I saw that and said, "Hey, it's my responsibility to pick it up and run the faster pace.  All I have to do is come and take the money...if I can.  It is there for the taking.  All I have to do it take it from you...at the top of your game."

The WERA guys are in the same boat.  I don't think any of them are running AMA, which WERA is very closely associated with, so they become the whinny internet freaks that Jim of 4&6 was talking about on the Dunlop tire post.  It's very easy to speculate about something that you don't do or haven't done.

California guy or not...LOL!...Tez is doing the best that he can right now.  I think with some different input on some things, he could do better.  Regardless, it's great.  
Title: Re: The WERA boys need straigtened out about Tez
Post by: Burt Munro on July 27, 2004, 09:27:00 AM
QuoteI thought all those inseam measurements were a bit superfluous.  :o :P ;D

You mean its not necessary to have someone check your inseam when all you're getting done is a sleeve length adjustment?  ;D ;D ;D

Rick