Has anyone gotten their VP money this year?
QuoteHas anyone gotten their VP money this year?
yes indeed... they pay 1-5-10-15th place.. They send a check to you. $25 in 1 class per race weekend with a 10 gal purchase. $50 for the higher end fuel like mr9.
Didn't get mine either, I'm expecting some from Topeka, and all the rest. Thinking of giving them a call to see if there's a problem. On a brighter note I saw my Michelin $$$$ show up! I like those tires even more now!
Stumpy
We are the VP contingency point of contact for the midwest and we have not seen any VP money yet either. I'll put another call in and post comments here.
Nope. Still waiting for $$ from Jennings in April.
QuoteNope. Still waiting for $$ from Jennings in April.
+1 I should have money coming to me from Jennings and VIR. Greg said he put the Jennings stuff in just 2 weeks after the races.
To all:
Texas will not pay if CCS does not confirm you are on the list. The trackside vendors (or in FL case, me) turn in a list of riders who have bought the 10 gal minimum and have placed 1,5,10,15. Texas will confirm our lists against CCS list. It is the riders responsiblity to make sure the tech has you confirmed for VP contingency. This is where they will check if you have the appropriate stickers and race patch on your leathers. If this is not confirmed-you more than likely will not be on the CCS list and therefore not paid.
There was some problems in the Jennings April race with riders being checked off. I spoke to Henry and will call both he and Texas to find out if things have been straightened out. In the meantime, FL contingency questions are more than welcome in this office (954-565-7670).
FL riders I submitted are as follows: Michael Mills, Steve Servis, Igrort Del Haya, Dolejsi Prokop, Steve Wenner, Scott McKee, Michael Santelia. (this is for the Jennings April 3-4th weekend)
Greg
There is only one amount per race weekend-$25. No extra money for MR9 as I understand it.
Lisa
VP Southeast
Haven't got a dime.
Me either. Noda.
No money for me either! I am waiting on some certs from Road America, which was in April!
Oh well, I guess I can run VP on my ice bike!
Ok here is the scoop from the midwest region for VP. Checks were just sent out for Heartland Park and Road America rounds. Apparently payment takes approximately 60 days because of the turn around time. It takes at least 30 days for CCS to get results to VP, then VP has to check results against what I send them, and then get checks cut and sent. Hope this helps, but apparently there are some checks in the mail.
Cool! Thanks Rob!
I have a call in as well and will let you know ASAP .. and as far as what Greg said FL may be different but for the SE it is $25 per 10gal for example U4 and if you use 10gal of an MR product as in MR1,MR8, MR9, MRX01 it will be $50... like i said FL region may be different but Gerg is correct as far as the Southeast goes
have not got mine at all either ???
hey vp lady,I have purchased fuel from prieto racing and have not got any money also purchased at barber from track side.I also got some form r&b motorcyles but I know that does not count..Duane desouza 59 ccs 559 wera. :-/
At the last VIR event the VP tractor and trailor was there , and I had a very long and interesting conversation with him. First of Greg no disrespect you"re a great guy but somethings wrong, I would have been on the phone immediatly when I heard what he was selling fuel for. The guy from VP was selling his fuel for an average of $15 less, he also told us that we did't have to buy from the regional vendor especially since there fuel was higher than anyone. We bought fuel from our local fuel supplier in charlotte, and his fuel was the same as the VP guy's at VIR, but team velocity keeps saying there's a price change. Also the guy with VP also said we did NOT have to buy from the track vendor to get contingency at all. And if there is a price change wouldn't the guy that came straight from texas with a tractor and trailor have the most current pricing? I mean something don't make sense. If you do get contingency, won't paying the extra money your paying at the track be offset by the price difference you could pay somewhere else. I think the whole you must buy from me or no contingency crap i a scam to charge more, and then take months to get contingency if you do get it all. VP should really do something alot different if they want to pay the racers, not tell you if you don't buy from me or no pay crap. Some of us don't want to depend on one guy to get there fuel there. And some of you may say they do it so they know you are using there product, but really think about it, how many of us have the decals and don't use the product. But anyway I'm some of you are going to put me in the ditch for this, but the bottom line is VP track vendors are making $10 to $15 or more off of fuel that you can buy somewhere else even VP themselves. Example VP truck at VIR. So add up how much contingency you have gotten vs how much fuel you buy vs how much you could buying the fuel at a cheaper rate. Thats all you can ditch me now, sorry greg nothing aimed at you.
I wouldn't get a kiss on the cheek and a pat on the butt from the trackside vendor if I purchaced fuel from someone else! ;DThanks for lookin' into it Rob!
My family can eat again as soon as we get those certs. ;)
Stumpy
Thanks Stumpy! I'll donate a few hot dogs until then! Porky, I'm not from out your way so I cannot confirm or deny what you are saying but I can tell you how it is here. I signed a deal with VP at the beginning of the year to be their authorized trackside vendor for Midwestern CCS events. By doing this they assured me that although racers can buy VP from anyone they want to they would only get paid contingency if they bought it from me. I send in a list of riders that purchase at least 10 gallons a race weekend after each race weekend and VP compares my list with the results that CCS provides them and the tech sheets that riders fill out. No other VP provider in my area can submit names for consideration for contingency. There have been 3 price increases since the beginning of the calendar year and two since I have become the contingency supplier. I did raise my price the first time but I have not raised my price since the last 5% increase here in June. I'm doing my best to keep VP affordable for my customers, that is if you can consider race fuel affordable at all. Most of my customers are repeat customers and I can count on a certain amount of fuel sales at each round. They take care of me by buying regularly, I take care of them by keeping my prices reasonable. It works for everyone. The contingency hasn't been lightning fast by any means but hey, at least they have some. So many of the products we currently use do not. But I'll continue to be there and as long as the company can convince me that they are making the effort to give something back I'll keep supporting their product.
Quotehey vp lady,I have purchased fuel from prieto racing and have not got any money also purchased at barber from track side.I also got some form r&b motorcyles but I know that does not count..Duane desouza 59 ccs 559 wera. :-/
You'll have to tell me what race you purchased 10 gallons of fuel from Prieto and placed in a contingency spot. I'll be happy to research it for you.
Thanks LMsports! That is the case here also. I am the authorized VP vendor for the WERA SE region and also the CCS SE region. Noone can authorize to pay contingency in these regions except for myself. We too have had 3 price increases this year but have had to raise our price each time due to our travel incurred with higher pump prices (we are based in Georgia and have been to California and will be going to Michigan, Ohio as well as the usual West VA and VA) and we cover two racing organizations which means double the races.
In regards to running the stickers and not running the fuel, it does happen. That's why VP went to the authorized vendor. I've been told that there were people turning in receipts for fuel purchses to get Contingency but it turned out that they had forged receipts from dealerships that didn't even sell the fuel.
I can understand everyone's frustration with contingency as I am frustrated also. I haven't seen a dime all year from any of our sponsors. As far as VP goes, the responsibility for contingency checks went to a person who already had a full work load and she has to do checks for each of the CCS and WERA regions along with the WERA National Challenge series and FUSA. So hang in there - she is working on it.
Cindy
I'm sorry just venting a little , but its just very frustrating when a guy driving a VP tractor and trailor straight from texas is cheaper on fuel than the track vendor and someone that doesnt always finish 1st 5th or so on that never gets contingency is payng more for fuel from the track vendor. For instance u4 $50 from vp which he said was current price vs 65 from the track vendor. And what is even more embarrasing I personally witnessed someone bringing back fuel to the track vendor (who happens to be a friend of mine) for a refund ,then go to the vp truck and purchase it cheaper. Dont get me wrong I appreciate all track vendors ,they work hard for us for little money, but how is this vendor going to do when he is getting punked at the track, when he says he cant even buy the fuel from his supplier that cheap. It really hurt the reputation of this particular se track vendor, everyone that i talked to was really pissed about the price difference. And lmsports and vpfl I,m sure ya"ll can see what this would do at a fusa weekend.I really apologize if I piss anyone off, I just think it needs to be brought out and something done, because our vendor is a really good guy.
Listen all you guys and gals are great Just voicing my opinion and of some others, So just dont boot me off the track as i pass.
You just answered your on questions about why the fuel is so much cheaper on the VP truck. It's because it comes straight from VP. The fuel costs them less than it does us. Plus, they have a contracted price for the FUSA and AMA series and the FUSA just happen to coincide with the regional event. I would post the retail price sheet that I got from VP but I can't post prices on the boards.
Cindy
Sorry Miss Ivey I just bought 10gallons from a local retailer that deals only in race fuel yesterday, and specifically ask him about price increase, and the u4 was $50.48 for a 5 gallon drum. I'm not trying to disput you but I've run my own trucking company for over ten years and if ya'll are making $15 on each 5 gallons with approximately say 1000 gallons sold on a weekend I think that should easily cover the shipping and handling cost.but everyone is still concentrating on the price and why contingency takes 7 years to pay but what about the embarrasement of my trackside vendor. He now cannot even race on the weekends , and constantly has people harrasing him about why is your fuel higher than over here. I understand shpping cost , hazard liabilities but I still think if I didnt constantly finsh 1st or 5th I would have to hunt the cheapest of race fuel if I had to have it. If I bought 10gallons from a local source and saved $30 that would pay my gate fee and a burger.
You think a trackside vendor sells a 1000 gallons of fuel a weekend? I very highly doubt that!!
Maybe at an air show! ;D
Did that $50.48 include sales tax? Motor fuel tax? Hazmat insurance? Vendor fees which are around $150? Mileage to travel to VP to pick up the fuel? Mileage to carry the fuel to the track? If you come to Augusta to pick buy the fuel it will be much cheaper than getting it at the track.
What you are implying is that I am trying to cheat the racers. You are sorely mistaken and shouldn't have made this personal. I provide the racers a service that most can't. It is very expensive to haul thousands of pounds of fuel to each race and there are few of us that do it while legally following all the federal guidelines. I have spoken to 2 VP regional managers in the last hour about this fiasco and they are aware of what's going on. They know what my prices as they are posted on my website. If you have or had a problem with VP pricing you should have contacted the regional manager for where the problem happened as well as my regional manager. You can get the numbers from VP's website.
U4 does not retail for 50.48. Retail is now 56.70 I believe and we continue to sell it for 54.00. Perhaps the fuel you purchased was bought by your retailer 8 months ago and has been sitting since prices were less, who knows. I order enough VP that the semi delivers to my shop once a month. My product is always new and fresh and so are my bills. I pay whatever the latest price increase says I have to. The information that you are spreading is false and is not fair to your trackside vendors. If anyone is interested in knowing exactly what the costs are for fuel directly from VP feel free to call them direct. The number to the Terre Haute, IN office which is where I am based is 812-238-2084.
Porky... i should have known that was the Fat truck driver with a name like that ;D .. I think the fat guy is saying that if a the vp truck is going to show up even though he can sell cheaper that he should at least only sell to the contracted riders at that price and match my price so that it doesn't make me look bad.. because tonay is right about that weekend and there was nothing i could do about it. I had to come so far and knew it was going to be a big weekend that i didn't even leave enough room for my own bike so that i could race. I did that to make sure i would have fuel for anyone that needed it. and when i got there the truck was there which i had no idea they were even going to come... nor did i know at what price they would be selling at.. not that it would matter because they were selling some cheaper than I pay for it myself.. and even the fuel that was sold a little less than i pay for it there is no way i could match that price.. if so someone would be giving me a ride home because i would not have been able to even pay for my gas to come. Not to mention the fact that i gave up racing that weekend so that i could make sure everyone would have their fuel. Now did the guy driving the truck do that?.. No he was paid to be there and it didn't matter how much he sold he got the same amount of money.. i didn't get into this to get rich... but you can't expect me to go to every track and be there if you need anything and not make a little.. and that is about all i make...a little.. now.. you call that guy on the truck and tell him who you are and ask him a question about that weekend and see if he remembers who you are... now ..call me and ask me the same thing.. in some of your cases i can tell you what lap times you were running that weekend... .. ok enough said.. hey Tony.. off topic i need you to call me about something other than this i need to ask you something.. 706-936-1583
First of all I am not making this personal, and yes being an owner operator in the trucking business I do know about hazmat insurance, highway fuel tax, road tax , and the cost of transportation. But at anytime have I stated anything false and can show proof . At Vir I purchased the fuel from THE VP person for the stated rates , actually he cut us an even better deal than stated, I am not being unfair to any vendor just stating what I know. Mr lm you are a very gracious person, Miss ivey sorry you're pissed. And I suppose the fuel could have been there for a few months suposedly, but I reckon he had to pay shipping, ins., and so-on also. But I do not lie, I do not tell untruths, and to get pissed because I brought up that my track vendor a friend of mine I pit with often lost sales, had people asking why, and the basic total embarrassment is just totally stupid. The prices I stated is what was paid, with receipt, and also the people that came back to get a refund because he was higher. I am not trying to say any of you cheat any racers , instead I respect all vendors as i said before, most vendors go out of there way to help racers, and to think that pisses me off. But none of it matters anyway, you think I'm out just to make you look bad instead of thinking about the guy thats out there working hard for you. So if you could get your head out of the sky for one moment you could see my point, the fact that we are used to our track vendor and believing what he says, then when a vp truck rolls up telling us totally different things, we then loose faith in who may be telling the truth.
Just in closing MR lm I respect you very much, and Ive heard extremly great things that you have done for racers I aplaud you for this. And since Miss Ivey is so pissed now I guess I won't get sold anymore fuel, but I'll save money over contingency since in the southeast our fuel is $65, now thats personal.
Give me a time to call you greg ,after six would be good, I've got to get some permits on a load going out to texas next week. When I get back I'll give you a shout. Miss Ivey thinks I'm ditching her i guess , but thats not the situation, I just really felt bad for what happened, and nobody cares about you just that I think people that never get contingency should get the best price on fuel that they can. But any way peach booze and bear candy, jammin on down asphault highway cruizin thru k-town 90 down.
thanks greg see ya on the highway