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Title: Who would you vote for?
Post by: EX#996 on June 25, 2004, 09:07:55 AM
This should be interesting and diverse.  Remember, this is all in fun.

If you choose a "Write in canidate"  be sure to share who that is.


Dawn   ;)
Title: Re: Who would you vote for?
Post by: Protein Filled on June 25, 2004, 09:08:52 AM
You missed the "Not Allowed to vote" option!
Title: Re: Who would you vote for?
Post by: EX#996 on June 25, 2004, 09:15:15 AM
QuoteYou missed the "Not Allowed to vote" option!


Ooops Sorry Edgar....  

 ;)
Title: Re: Who would you vote for?
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on June 25, 2004, 09:51:55 AM
Note to self.  Have immigration swoop down to hassle Edgar just moments before call to grid, thus causing him to miss the race.  Later, show him my trophy and really rub it in... 8)

I'm not voting in this poll, because I have know idea what I'm going to do yet.  I don't suppose Dave Rosno would be an appropriate write-in candidate, would he?
Title: Re: Who would you vote for?
Post by: tigerblade on June 25, 2004, 10:38:58 AM
I know it's all in fun, but I can't imagine anyone on a motorcycle board voting for Ralph Nader.  Unless you want to get out of motorcycling that is...  
Title: Re: Who would you vote for?
Post by: MadXX on June 25, 2004, 11:04:37 AM
To me this question is like "how do you want to die? the knife or the gun?"   :P  

But hey, if you dont make a choice you have no grounds to complain about what someone else chooses for you.

Title: Re: Who would you vote for?
Post by: tigerblade on June 25, 2004, 11:46:47 AM
QuoteBut hey, if you dont make a choice you have no grounds to complain about what someone else chooses for you.


True dat.  Get out and vote if you're able.   :)
Title: Re: Who would you vote for?
Post by: Super Dave on June 26, 2004, 07:06:44 AM
I can't vote on this forum...don't know why...

K3...LOL!

Because of a long military background, I really kept myself out of voting for a long, long time.  It was the tradition from ages ago...soldiers really didn't feel they needed to "vote" in the Commander-In-Chief.

Anyway, I started voting.  Started to have time to do it, and I have a family.

I am registered as a Libertarian.

I voted for GW Bush in the last election.  I will probably do so in the next.  I am looking for one answer to one question...not two or three depending upon the audience.  

And the war on terrorism...

The only way to win is to fight.  Not fighting is loosing.  Just like racing...you can't win if you don't grid up...and being victorious in a race is not necessarily about being the first one across the finish line...  I think most of us know about that.
Title: Re: Who would you vote for?
Post by: am_#65_john_deere on June 26, 2004, 10:52:47 PM
not allowed to vote either.

if i could vote i wouldn't vote for any of the listed options.

for a country of 300 million isn't it a bit wrong to basically have a choice of two or three????

bring back clinton ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Who would you vote for?
Post by: EX#996 on June 27, 2004, 05:58:34 AM
Quotebring back clinton ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Umm......   No

 ;)
Title: Re: Who would you vote for?
Post by: mj on June 27, 2004, 08:17:34 PM
QuoteI can't vote on this forum...don't know why...

K3...LOL!

Because of a long military background, I really kept myself out of voting for a long, long time.  It was the tradition from ages ago...soldiers really didn't feel they needed to "vote" in the Commander-In-Chief.


What is this military background that you speak of?
What was your MOS, rank and combat experience ?

Not vote because you were in the military. Doesn't make any sense.
 ???
Title: Re: Who would you vote for?
Post by: DRU2 on June 28, 2004, 12:41:56 AM
did anyone that said that they would vote for bush happen to think that there are more people out of work now then in the great depression. And that the numbers of people that are on unemploment are wrong. the reason that there arnt so many now is that they ran out of unemployment and and can no longer collect. If you think thats wrong check the numbers yourself. also as for our presedent. he would like to go into our national forest preserves to drill for oil. he has also said on ocasion that he would like to take min wage and lower it.God help us if that oil baren gets to be presedent again. Just one persons view
Title: Re: Who would you vote for?
Post by: spyderchick on June 28, 2004, 06:08:18 AM
QuoteNot fighting is loosing.   

Tell that to Mahatma Gahndi, Martin Luther King, Mother Teresa, the Dali Lama, or Thitch Naht Hahn.

Fighting does not have to mean violence or war. Just remember, this administration is setting up how our military capitives will be treated in the future through their policy.

Fighting can mean standing up for what you believe in, holding firm to your values and ethics.

Abortion is bad, but I guess sending the under classes to war for oil is post-abortion, which is ok since these people have not proven themselves worthy in the Bush Elitist point of view. Also, the kid of "questionable color" robbing the mini-mart should get 30 years in prison for making a bad choice when he's in his early 20s, but a full blown CEO of a company can rob and squander billions of dollars in investors retirement funds and get off with just 14 months in prison, because he can afford good lawyers. Well, he is a useful member of society. Besides, he's white.

Oh yeah, my daughter is in the military, my father, uncles, father in law, grandfathers and cousins were in the military, some injured or killed.  My one Grandfather was a cop killed in the line of duty.

I'm proud of my family for their generous service to this country. I also believe that this administration has not made the best choices for this country as a nation, as a world citizen and as the most powerful entity on the planet. Our resources are stretched, our economy is in a tenuous place, and the people are complacent. It's not American to silence opposing views as this administration has done. Think about that.

Now GUESS who I might be voting for. Oh yeah, I do vote. With information from a variety of sources on all issues. That source is not Fox news. I vote every election, even if they are running for head garbage collector.

You don't have to agree with me, but if you have the priviledge, you should vote too.

I am stepping off my soap box now.

 
Title: Re: Who would you vote for?
Post by: VPFL on June 28, 2004, 06:22:03 AM
Always a Republican. I am all about freedom- NOT entitlements!!!!!  In America the only thing you are entitled to is to work hard and play even harder - on your OWN dime. ;D

disclaimer: (the above views are expressly my own and do not reflect the views of the company I work for, yadah, yadah, yadah...) 8)
Title: Re: Who would you vote for?
Post by: spyderchick on June 28, 2004, 07:05:32 AM
Read the PATRIOT act and tell me about freedom. Oh yeah, and ask your congressmen if they read it before they passed it.  :o
Title: Re: Who would you vote for?
Post by: Jeff on June 28, 2004, 07:11:33 AM
The unfortunate thing is that you are locked into a select few candidates, and not ONE of them will represent everything a person wants.  

Registered Democrat, but my views span the parties.  Realistically there isn't going to be anything BUT a Rep/Dem in the office, so voting outside these 2 choices makes no difference.  The last hope was Perot (he wasn't Rep/Dem was he?), and he screwed that up for himself.  I honestly believe he would have had a chance if he stayed the course.

Because of the war and the bad PR of it, I don't believe Bush will be re-elected.  Looking at history, a Republican has never "ended" a war.

Do I blame the administration for the prisoner scandals?  No, I blame bored youth antics for it.  Do I think Bush lied?  You bet your ass I do...  (does that mean I don't think any other President has lied?  absolutely not...)

It comes down to personal agendas in the end, and I personally don't agree with GB on that front...
Title: Re: Who would you vote for?
Post by: DRU2 on June 28, 2004, 02:22:14 PM
I just wish that they would spend as much money on the american public as they do every one else. Im proud of our armed forces! I back every soldier that we have to bad you cant have the same felling about politics! I just dont think that we spend enough time and energy worring about whats going on right here. terror is a different story.  like i said befor just one mans opinion........
Title: Re: Who would you vote for?
Post by: am_#65_john_deere on June 28, 2004, 07:15:19 PM
america is not the only country that spends more money on other countries than it does its own people.

governments are all corrupt, it doesnt matter which one is elected,, they are all going to screw the average joe in what ever way they can get away with.

but at least vote  for which one takes your money.
excercise your right to vote.
Title: Re: Who would you vote for?
Post by: tzracer on June 29, 2004, 07:15:33 AM
QuoteUnfortunately as long as the majority continues to think this way. I have started to vote for the person I would like to see in office regardless of party. I will no longer vote for the lesser of 2 evils. My vote is not wasted as long as I have voted for a candidate in which I believe. I have not voted Dem or Rep (really they are the same regardless of wht they say) for quite a few elections.
Title: Re: Who would you vote for?
Post by: Jeff on June 29, 2004, 07:41:44 AM
Point well taken Brian.

Really, I think it comes down to marketing.  The two mainstream parties have exceptional marketing skills, abilities and resources.  Many other parties either don't have the funding or refuse to be caught up in the whole marketing spin "thing".  

While I can understand and respect a candidate who says that the "marketing spin thing" is ridiculous so they won't jump into it, this is what the public relies on to make decisions.

By nature, people want decisions made for them.  The commercials really feed that process...  Market an X party candidate well and they would stand a SERIOUS chance of being elected.  However, again, it goes against the fundamentals of any party other than Rep/Dem (and the fundamental I speak of is lying and inflating the truth, selling themselves)...
Title: Re: Who would you vote for?
Post by: spyderchick on June 29, 2004, 07:45:59 AM
Did you guys know that ShowTime is having some sort of thing where they are looking to "field" a presidential candidate through some show starting in july?
http://www.americancandidate.com/home.php

Scary thing is, After Jesse in MN and Arnold in CA, it could work!

Maybe not likely, but then again... :-/
Title: Re: Who would you vote for?
Post by: tzracer on June 30, 2004, 06:20:31 PM
I agree Jeff, the smaller parties just cannot compete in marketing due to lack of funds. The only time they have done well in the recent past was if the candidate was popular/well known. The average person does not seem to want to do any research about candidates, just decide based upon what they happen to see on TV. People should vote for the candidate whose views most agree with their own, regardless of party. We need to get away from the idea that a vote for a 3rd party candidate is a wasted vote. The only wasted votes are the people that do not vote.

Unfortunately the deck is stacked against a third party entering the presidential debates. The requirements for entry (something like 5% of the popular vote in the last election) are set by the republicans and democrats. It is in there common interest to prevent any pther party from doing well. Probably the only time they agree on something.
Title: Re: Who would you vote for?
Post by: secularist on June 30, 2004, 09:12:58 PM
anyone but Bush...

but I'll end up voting Llbertarian, no matter what.  can't stand the BS of either major party.  they don't have ANY of your interests in mind.  they only care about staying in power.  it's sad and pathetic.  careerism has ruined the political system.