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Title: What is the strangest thing...
Post by: MadXX on May 17, 2004, 12:42:43 PM
... you have ever hung off of?  I was pondering this when I caught myself unconsciously hanging off my lawnmower while making sharp turns.  

Then I started analyzing which footboard I was putting my weight on, looking through the turn, and wondering if I needed a piece of abrasive contact paper on the gas tank to help me grip it with my knees better.  ;D
Title: Re: What is the strangest thing...
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on May 17, 2004, 02:41:32 PM
I've spent whole days doing that at work.  We have several multi-million gallon water storage reseviors to mow.  It's also less boring to mow in laps instead of passes...
Title: Re: What is the strangest thing...
Post by: GSXR RACER MIKE on May 17, 2004, 08:37:32 PM
QuoteI've spent whole days doing that at work.  We have several multi-million gallon water storage reseviors to mow.  It's also less boring to mow in laps instead of passes...

     Hey K3, do ya have the lap timer on the mower? LMAO!  ;D
Title: Re: What is the strangest thing...
Post by: CCSRacer114 on May 18, 2004, 04:47:23 AM
QuoteI've spent whole days doing that at work.  We have several multi-million gallon water storage reseviors to mow.  It's also less boring to mow in laps instead of passes...

K3,

I'll be mowing at the reservoir this coming weekend. Since this will be my first time mowing there, what gearing should I use for the 2 million gallon reservior?  I'm running a Deere with a 20HP engine.

And one more question: what tire pressures do you recommend?  And have you tried different compounds?

Any help you can give to a newbie mower would be appreciated!

Thanks!

(I couldn't resist)
Title: Re: What is the strangest thing...
Post by: Jeff on May 18, 2004, 06:16:39 AM
I have a pretty steep grade on my front yard, so I have to drag knee to keep the mower on all 4.  And I get to countersteer the whole while  ;D
Title: Re: What is the strangest thing...
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on May 19, 2004, 03:18:40 AM
Stock gearing has worked well for me.  I run five pounds of air with the standard compound tires.  One thing that you really want to watch out for is the slopes around the perimiter.  they get very slick with dew, so you should avoid them during the morning sessions, or you'll be straight into the fence!  And don't forget to set your deck height before you go out.  I usually run 5", and it's worked well for me.
Good Luck!
 ;)
Title: Re: What is the strangest thing...
Post by: CCSRacer114 on May 19, 2004, 07:48:24 AM
QuoteStock gearing has worked well for me.  I run five pounds of air with the standard compound tires.  One thing that you really want to watch out for is the slopes around the perimiter.  they get very slick with dew, so you should avoid them during the morning sessions, or you'll be straight into the fence!  And don't forget to set your deck height before you go out.  I usually run 5", and it's worked well for me.
Good Luck!
 ;)

Good Answer!
 ;)

Title: Re: What is the strangest thing...
Post by: StumpysWife on May 19, 2004, 07:55:32 AM
Johnson found his way back to the motorhome at 4am Saturday at Gateway to report that he did one handed wheelies on his xr50 while holding a beer and wearing a sumo wrestler suit for the drag racers.  

Where do you rustle up a sumo wrestler suit at drag races?  

Title: Re: What is the strangest thing...
Post by: 251am on May 19, 2004, 08:24:29 AM
 Don't forget your blade warmers. You can waste a whole session w/o yer bladewarmers. ;D
Title: Re: What is the strangest thing...
Post by: MELK-MAN on May 19, 2004, 08:47:24 AM
QuoteK3,

I'll be mowing at the reservoir this coming weekend. Since this will be my first time mowing there, what gearing should I use for the 2 million gallon reservior?  I'm running a Deere with a 20HP engine.

And one more question: what tire pressures do you recommend?  And have you tried different compounds?

Any help you can give to a newbie mower would be appreciated!

Thanks!

(I couldn't resist)


 ;D ;D ;D good one rob.. ;D
Title: Re: What is the strangest thing...
Post by: Thorny on May 19, 2004, 09:58:12 AM
I am a Maintenance man at a large manufacturing facility and have access to some pretty cool motorized equipment. I like to lean way out on my scissor lift (as long as no one is around, you know, all the safety crap now days!!)
Title: Re: What is the strangest thing...
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on May 19, 2004, 10:01:41 AM
QuoteDon't forget your blade warmers. You can waste a whole session w/o yer bladewarmers. ;D
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: What is the strangest thing...
Post by: GSXR RACER MIKE on May 19, 2004, 10:25:08 AM
QuoteStock gearing has worked well for me.  I run five pounds of air with the standard compound tires.  One thing that you really want to watch out for is the slopes around the perimiter.  they get very slick with dew, so you should avoid them during the morning sessions, or you'll be straight into the fence!  And don't forget to set your deck height before you go out.  I usually run 5", and it's worked well for me.
Good Luck!
 ;)

What type of gears do you use, do you get contingency? Do you use air or are you using nitrogen in the tires, is there contingency available for these as well? What degree banking are the slopes, are they steeper than Daytona? Are there any good reference points and braking markers, like the 3rd dandelion after the rock? Does the machine have anti-squat like a bike or does it squat like a car under acceleration, does that throw off your frame geometry too bad? Have you had a frame optimization done by GMD Computrac? ;)
Title: Re: What is the strangest thing...
Post by: cornercamping on May 19, 2004, 10:28:16 AM
Quote... you have ever hung off of?

 ::)  Not gonna answer in fear of the wrath of Dawn and her banning powers  ;) ;D :P
Title: Re: What is the strangest thing...
Post by: MadXX on May 19, 2004, 11:07:56 AM
Quote... Are there any good reference points and braking markers, like the 3rd dandelion after the rock? ...

That works for the first lap but you have to be adaptable since you keep mowing off your reference points.  ;D
Title: Re: What is the strangest thing...
Post by: grasshopper on May 19, 2004, 12:00:00 PM
You guys are sick  ;D You realize this rite?
Title: Re: What is the strangest thing...
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on May 19, 2004, 02:24:01 PM
QuoteWhat type of gears do you use, do you get contingency? Do you use air or are you using nitrogen in the tires, is there contingency available for these as well? What degree banking are the slopes, are they steeper than Daytona? Are there any good reference points and braking markers, like the 3rd dandelion after the rock? Does the machine have anti-squat like a bike or does it squat like a car under acceleration, does that throw off your frame geometry too bad? Have you had a frame optimization done by GMD Computrac? ;)
Actually, the machine has hydrostatic drive.  (Like a tank or bulldozer.)  This has required me to adopt a new riding style, and hanging off is very important.  You see, if I try to turn uphill, the inside wheel is the one pulling, and it is already light.  As the machine slides down the bank, your natural tendancy is to push the joystick harder toward the uphill side.  All this accomplishes is causing you to accelerate even faster down the bank!  Quite like countersteering, actually.  As a result, I adjusted my line to attack the banking at an angle of about 45 degrees, similar to the angle I run leaving the infield at Daytona.  As I mow each lap, the track gets smaller, and the radius of each corner changes, causing me to constantly rethink my line.  Consequently, I tend to "mow down" my brake markers with alarming regularity.  Because the tires don't get that hot, regular air has been fine so far.  The machine has no suspension, but it is important to adjust deck height as the terrain changes.  I have an official Computrac heavy maul that I use to realign the frame after the occasional mishap.  I really don't know the contingency arrangement, beacuse I am a paid professional rider, and this is a factory ride.  I go out and get the results, and the team cuts me a paycheck.
Title: Re: What is the strangest thing...
Post by: MadXX on May 19, 2004, 03:03:06 PM
QuoteActually, the machine has hydrostatic drive.  (Like a tank or bulldozer.)  This has required me to adopt a new riding style, and hanging off is very important.  You see, if I try to turn uphill, the inside wheel is the one pulling, and it is already light.  As the machine slides down the bank, your natural tendancy is to push the joystick harder toward the uphill side.  All this accomplishes is causing you to accelerate even faster down the bank!  Quite like countersteering, actually.  As a result, I adjusted my line to attack the banking at an angle of about 45 degrees, similar to the angle I run leaving the infield at Daytona.  As I mow each lap, the track gets smaller, and the radius of each corner changes, causing me to constantly rethink my line.  Consequently, I tend to "mow down" my brake markers with alarming regularity.  Because the tires don't get that hot, regular air has been fine so far.  The machine has no suspension, but it is important to adjust deck height as the terrain changes.  I have an official Computrac heavy maul that I use to realign the frame after the occasional mishap.  I really don't know the contingency arrangement, beacuse I am a paid professional rider, and this is a factory ride.  I go out and get the results, and the team cuts me a paycheck.

K3 I just have to say this is the funniest thing I have read in a long time  ;D ;D
Title: Re: What is the strangest thing...
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on May 19, 2004, 07:52:09 PM
QuoteK3 I just have to say this is the funniest thing I have read in a long time  ;D ;D
Thank you!  Nothing pleases an old bullshytter more than an appreciative audience!
Title: Re: What is the strangest thing...
Post by: lil_thorny on May 19, 2004, 09:23:16 PM
I hang off of all the great writings of a famous
author I know by the name of Onwiler.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

mini Thorny.
Title: Re: What is the strangest thing...
Post by: GSXR RACER MIKE on May 19, 2004, 09:35:13 PM
QuoteActually, the machine has hydrostatic drive.  (Like a tank or bulldozer.).

So is it still stock and legal for Supersport, or have you had the drive train modified?

QuoteThis has required me to adopt a new riding style, and hanging off is very important.  You see, if I try to turn uphill, the inside wheel is the one pulling, and it is already light.  As the machine slides down the bank, your natural tendancy is to push the joystick harder toward the uphill side.  All this accomplishes is causing you to accelerate even faster down the bank!  Quite like countersteering, actually.  As a result, I adjusted my line to attack the banking at an angle of about 45 degrees, similar to the angle I run leaving the infield at Daytona.

So having mastered the art of cornering on your machine do you sometimes feel yourself becoming overconfident with your abilities?

QuoteAs I mow each lap, the track gets smaller, and the radius of each corner changes, causing me to constantly rethink my line.  Consequently, I tend to "mow down" my brake markers with alarming regularity.  Because the tires don't get that hot, regular air has been fine so far.

With the ever changing lines you encounter adapting to new lines, your skills must be incredible.

QuoteThe machine has no suspension, but it is important to adjust deck height as the terrain changes.  I have an official Computrac heavy maul that I use to realign the frame after the occasional mishap.

Did you let Super Dave use that alignment device on the R6 last year at Gingerman? He has said how awesome the bike was after that optimization.

QuoteI really don't know the contingency arrangement, beacuse I am a paid professional rider, and this is a factory ride.  I go out and get the results, and the team cuts me a paycheck.

So being that your a factory rider, how often do lappers get in your way and ruin your finishes? ;)
Title: Re: What is the strangest thing...
Post by: lil_thorny on May 19, 2004, 09:38:15 PM
I do actually hang over the jungle wheels on my buddy's 38" mower. Those things are a blast.
Title: Re: What is the strangest thing...
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on May 20, 2004, 03:35:52 AM
My machine is pretty much stock.  I've found that they are most reliable this way.  I did find that as delivered, there was a device that would not allow the carburator to open fully.  I checked with Kevin Elliot, and have his word that adjusting this device is a legal modification...
I will never feel that I have truly mastered the mower.  The resevior is just too tough an environment for anyone to think themselves a true master.  Lady Luck can fool even the best of us.  I have skills, but I'm still always looking for ways to improve my mowing.  Besides, it's hard to become overconfident while sitting astride 72" of whirling death...
I personally used my optimizing tool on Dave's bike after his Blackhawk crash.  Minutes later, He scored big in the money race.  He didn't tell you?  Well, you can't expect Dave to share everything I've taught him about bike setup, can you? ;D
Lappers.  We factory mowers always seem to cause controversy when this subject comes up.  I'll tell you how I feel.  To me, they look like scared rabbits.  If they can run fast enough to stay out of my way, that's good.  But sometimes you just don't see them until it's too late.  You hear a thump and know you've just ruined somebody's day, but it's really not your problem, you know?  If they can't handle it, then they shouldn't be out there.
Title: Re: What is the strangest thing...
Post by: lil_thorny on May 20, 2004, 08:42:26 AM
You see what I mean? Hang off every word. He's so
dreamy :-* :-* :-*

30 ;)
Title: Re: What is the strangest thing...
Post by: GSXR RACER MIKE on May 20, 2004, 10:26:47 AM
QuoteMy machine is pretty much stock.  I've found that they are most reliable this way......Besides, it's hard to become overconfident while sitting astride 72" of whirling death...

Have you at least gone with a Supersport legal multi-agle grind job on the whirling impliments of death? I would think your lines would be much cleaner and more precise that way.

The over confidence issue is so big in sports like this, just when you think your in control of the machine, the machine wacks your arm off! Gotta have respect for the power under you.

What type of steering damper do you have, a rotary or a piston type? Do you experience much head shake or do you have the rake and trail pretty dialed in?

I assume your using tire warmers also, does it make a big difference for you on your 1st few laps? :)
Title: Re: What is the strangest thing...
Post by: cornercamping on May 24, 2004, 03:26:09 PM
Alright, fess up... Which one of you is this  ;D

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/3328105/detail.html
Title: Re: What is the strangest thing...
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on May 24, 2004, 04:51:33 PM
Idiots like that reflect poorly on the entire lawn mowing community.  As if we don't have enough of an image problem already.  I have NEVER mowed anywhere but at an approved facility, and would certianly never put a child at risk.  To do so while intoxicated is the height of squidly irresposibility.  The thing that really burns me is that CNN needed a mowing picture to run with the story, so they selected a picture of World Champion Forrest Gump!  This causes public perception that even our World Champion, properly clad in safety gear and performing at a professional venue, is a drunken idiot.  I have already sent letters to CNN and Forrest.  Maybe a lawsuit will teach the media not to tarnish the reputation of the professional lawncare industry!
Title: Re: What is the strangest thing...
Post by: cornercamping on May 25, 2004, 09:42:25 AM
QuoteIdiots like that reflect poorly on the entire lawn mowing community. ÊAs if we don't have enough of an image problem already. ÊI have NEVER mowed anywhere but at an approved facility, and would certianly never put a child at risk. ÊTo do so while intoxicated is the height of squidly irresposibility. ÊThe thing that really burns me is that CNN needed a mowing picture to run with the story, so they selected a picture of World Champion Forrest Gump! ÊThis causes public perception that even our World Champion, properly clad in safety gear and performing at a professional venue, is a drunken idiot. ÊI have already sent letters to CNN and Forrest. ÊMaybe a lawsuit will teach the media not to tarnish the reputation of the professional lawncare industry!

LMAO  ;D
Title: Re: What is the strangest thing...
Post by: lil_thorny on May 25, 2004, 06:31:49 PM
QuoteAlright, fess up... Which one of you is this  ;D

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/3328105/detail.html


Corner,
that is just pathetic isn't it.  A cousin of mine..not
THORNY!!!  had his driving priveledges taken from him due to 2 DWI's along with his motor vehicles.
He was pulled over soon after while on his 4 wheeler
while intoxicated, and did some time in the workhouse.  You see people, there are people out there just like us. Alcohol, racing, smelling farts....
pick your poison. We are all sick. We all need some help.