Well its a three day thing. Friday was the LP practice day. Man oh man was there a few get offs. A lot!!!!!!!
I went out and did three session and felt better and was on it at the last session. I was on pain killers as my back got tweeked friday morning. I got to meet the rest of the off the wall racing crew, chatted with a few others, ( Hector, Ryan, etc) it was great to be back at the track.
Well its staterday and my back it F*** and I was still feeling slow from fridays lap times. So I cornerworked today. Our crew did well ( scott and danny both placed. ;D)
The EXs were off the hook ( hecter and ryan ran great all day.)
Hey penut where the hell were U? I saw you on friday but did not see u race today and could not find your pit. Three of the guys that drag race were there on firday but we could not find u.
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What's up with the back?
AAAAHHHHHHH! The pain!
Hey Smoke!! It was great meeting you guys this weekend... my wife and family had a super time :D I'd like to thank you and Danny again for all of your help out there. We'll be seeing you again at the end of May for FUSA at Summit. Hope your back is doing better today ;D BTW, you were riding smooooth through 5-6-7-8; it was fun following you through there on Friday!
Speaking of get offs...does anyone know how the guy who crashed in four toward the end of the day who went to Baltimore hospital is doing????
SD
I was moving danny s big ass tool chest friday morning in order to load my bike. Damm that thing is heavy.
WV97 ( scott) I still have a lot to learn from u and danny. It was great to hang out and you and your family are good people and now are part of our family. If we got and u need it , take it. Congrats on the WOOD!! Oh I talked to danny today here was a red flag on the second lap so they called the session.
LAR
The friday get off in T4 a guy broke his leg ( per the corner workers I talked too., saterday (one guy was ok, and another guy tweeked his ankle. During race 9 yesterday there was a bad crash at the start of the race.
glad it was a good weekend. ill be looking forward to hearing how the clowns did.
Any news on wins. I am specifically interested in the lightweight Am's. Anyone?
QuoteLAR
The friday get off in T4 a guy broke his leg ( per the corner workers I talked too., saterday (one guy was ok, and another guy tweeked his ankle. During race 9 yesterday there was a bad crash at the start of the race.
There were two guys in turn 4. The guy who broke his leg was a customer of the shop my husband works for. He has a tib fib fracture in 4 spots and has an external thing on for four months. The guy who hit him had a head injury and was flown from jefferson to baltimore. We babysat his dog while his wife and family went to jefferson to see him...when they got there, they found out he had been flown to baltimore. I'm just hoping he's ok. :(
I wasn't there for most of yesterday...hope the guy who crashed during race 9 is ok.
LAR
When my team mate droped my bike off he said They told the racers today that the guy that went to Bmore was most likey going to make it. He also siad that during one race there were like 5 get offs in T10 in his AM race. He also said alot of others went down.
The guy from race 9 went to jefferson for stitches. The old guy on the 125 was pitted next to us and he went home last night
WV97 Danny hit the 21s today ;D in the Unl race. But 21s only got him 7th. :o
Smoke, thanks for the info. His family was really distraught and it was hard for them to get any information when they went to Jennings so I was just hoping for the best for them. It really did seem like a rough weekend for get offs, and the pace was definitely quick.
Glad I only did the practice day. :)
QuoteWV97: Danny hit the 21s today ;D in the Unl race. But 21s only got him 7th. :o
Way to gooooo Danny! Now I wish I'd been there to run with him :-/ Oh well, since I'm my only real sponsor work has to come first, and Sunday was when I had to get back. Well, maybe somebody will notice that I pulled a 4th and 7th my first time racing on that track and shower me with parts and support!! Not to mention I did it on a bone stock Honda 600RR ;D ;D ;D ;D That way I won't have to worry about work and I can keep up with mister speedracer ;)!! What were the top guys running in the Unlimited race? Did Danny just fall off the pace?
Don't know the times. He also told me he was leading in a race but got the meatball flag :o and end up 13th.
That whole 1st and 13th thing was kind of gay but...They say some people have talent and others have to learn. I'm learning while you and danny all ready have it. Fill out all your contigency stuff. They should be giving u stuff.
smoke, i was around all weekend, sorry we missed each other.
had my issues but ran faster than last year and took a 3rd, 2-5ths, a 6th and 7th, so not too bad a weekend.
our crew had it's ups and downs, on the good note,
*the weather turned out to be great!
*my 1st 3rd after my 1 and only good start.
*josh lilburn's top 10 finishes.
*hector's win and 2nd place finish on sat.
*troy (nesba cr) coming from the back and getting a 4th and 5th i believe in am.
*rob smith (another nesba cr) getting a top 10 as well.
on the negatives
*my shitty starts continue even after getting advice from almost everyone.lol
*geoff reed (nesba cr) running in around 6-7th in the gto race but crashing out in turn 4 ending his weekend.
*hector crashing out 1st and 3rd and then possibly braking his wrist (i'll check with him later).
so hopefully everyone will be ready for the fusa weekend to give it another run! :)
congrads out to ryan patterson, donny kelley, jason moss and the osr racing crew (aj and will) for excellent weekends as well.
nice job peanut
my weekend is lousy again. Went slow on sat, figured out how to go faster on sunday, moved way up in the times during first pratice, and got ran off in T4 during the second practice, trashing my bike, and ending my weekend. I entered 3 races and I feel was on point to achieve my usual laptimes. Made a lot of changes to the bike Sat night, and all is positive until the same stupid thing happens in T4 again.
Nice job to everyone who did well. I saw hector at the end of day while I was walking around with a non-operative shoulder, and it sucks to see him like that. My difficulties continue, and he hasn't seen a real positive weekend for a while either.
I probably won't be racing again soon if I don't figure out how to ride like I used to. That and how not to get my bike destroyed for other people's mistakes.
Quotenice job peanut
my weekend is lousy again. Went slow on sat, figured out how to go faster on sunday, moved way up in the times during first pratice, and got ran off in T4 during the second practice, trashing my bike, and ending my weekend. I entered 3 races and I feel was on point to achieve my usual laptimes. Made a lot of changes to the bike Sat night, and all is positive until the same stupid thing happens in T4 again.
Nice job to everyone who did well. I saw hector at the end of day while I was walking around with a non-operative shoulder, and it sucks to see him like that. My difficulties continue, and he hasn't seen a real positive weekend for a while either.
I probably won't be racing again soon if I don't figure out how to ride like I used to. That and how not to get my bike destroyed for other people's mistakes.
Hey
I did not want to mention your name in my first post cause I wanted to talk to u first but on saterday I was in T5 and I was watching u come in and u had the oppertunity to pass but u did not. I wondered why. It does seem like u are holding back Why? It seems like after the T4 thing last year your riding style has changed.
Mel
geoff reed (nesba cr) running in around 6-7th in the gto race but crashing out in turn 4 ending his weekend.
That was geoff? I did not know who he was. I saw the bike hit the wall and go up as it was on its way down I was darting across the track to get him. At that point I saw him sliding to the wall. His bike was done. Hows he doing?
I hit the wall twice in T4 last year. And I just again narrowly missed the wall, but still ended up on my head yesterday. I love racing and would like to be back riding like I used to, but so far this year it is just not there.
But then this could be a good thing too. I nursed my new bike for 2 weekends and end up running 3-4 seconds off pace. The best I did on Sat was 22's. Even you from track side can tell I am not riding the same way. riding scared. Now that the bike has been "broken-in" maybe I can go back to riding the same way.
I do know exactly what you are talking about. I came up on guys and could pass them in 4, 5, 6, 7 but I waited til 8 to do so.
I felt like I should even have come to race, because I wasn't racing, just riding around. Still not slow slow, but no where near where I should be (with my competitors like hector, peanut, donny and patterson)
I think my pride hurt more than my shoulder, arm, neck and head add together
he's ok, a little banged up but no major issues. the bike took a beating but he'll be back, he was running well in friday practice and on sat. morning as well.
QuoteI hit the wall twice in T4 last year. And I just again narrowly missed the wall, but still ended up on my head yesterday.
I felt like I should even have come to race, because I wasn't racing, just riding around. I think my pride hurt more than my shoulder, arm, neck and head add together
if i hit the wall i don't think that i would have been able to come back as quick as you have, fwiw. don't under estimate some crashes affect on you. i'm still slow out of turn 1 getting on the gas after highsiding there 2 seasons ago, and your get off was 10 times worse.
the season is still very young.
Quotethe season is still very young.
man i sound like some old guy giving advice...wtf!
gas and go!!! lol. ;)
Nut
Glad he's ok. Coming to TPM Day on may 10th?
Dafan: its going to take one thing for u to run up front. "The will to do so."
actually it is the will to stop being scared. yes I admit I am racing scared.
so now that I have ended up on my head (or on my face) and still able to work on the bike the day after, I think I got some of that scare out of my system.
Peanut, I came back to riding maybe 5 weeks after I was injured, but I still am not back "racing". I remember so many guys I don't see at the track anymore because of injures. I did come back, but I am not nearly 60% back mentally. I am not going to challenge anyone because I can't even chanllenge myself.
I did go faster in practice on Sun before I got forced off. Kept up with Ribiero and Rinaldi for a few laps, surprised myself too.
I was driving home with a lot of pain, and thinking about how I lost that switch that turns you on to "race mode". So I need to find that switch or not come to races. I had it briefly before I went off. I was on a mission to go fast in practice (And you all know I hate morning practices).
i'll be back 8)
I'm the same way. I need to will my self up front. But thats why I will be there on the 10th to get some laps in.
so will I, if I can get myself and my bike together by then. My teammates are signed up, and I think I will just come and ride.
Quoteactually it is the will to stop being scared. yes I admit I am racing scared.
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I was driving home with a lot of pain, and thinking about how I lost that switch that turns you on to "race mode". So I need to find that switch or not come to races. I had it briefly before I went off. I was on a mission to go fast in practice (And you all know I hate morning practices).
i'll be back 8)
I've been down the road you are on right now. Some folks totally walk away. Some don't. if it's not fun for you make sure you are ready to come back.
After I got injured a few years ago (Speedbump to a GSXR600, abdomen gashed open nicely, stitches, tubes sticking out...looks of cool shit.) It took nearly a year to really come back on my pace and get my aggression up. Part of that was due to the fear of landing on that side...the traumatized area had no skin level sensation...but slap it in I hit the roof. So part of that ws fear of pain.
From what I've heard of you and read here...you'll put the demons down and find your pace. Sometimes it just takes the wrong guy passing you to piss you off and suddenly you find the 'GO' switch.
Good luck.
Keener
hey peanut, what did you end up running for lap times. (just to give me a ball park to shoot for when im down there, although i probably wont be racing there until the end of the season).
Quotehey peanut, what did you end up running for lap times. (just to give me a ball park to shoot for when im down there, although i probably wont be racing there until the end of the season).
i ran 18's and 19's. i've only been into the 18's once before so running a few in most races was a big improvement for me.
if you can run 18's most laps and get a good start you can do some damage right now in the 600 classes. i would think 18's with dips into the 17's would be needed soon on the regional level. 17's with possible dips into the 16's will be needed on the big bikes. (these are opinions so don't quote me.)
i'm thinking when the big boys show up at the end of the month you need to get your 16's and lower on or be blown away....lol.
i think matt wait actually hit 14's last year.. but it may have been 15's.. either way that is just fucking nuts.
my best is in the high 1:20's. ive run 2 race weekends there total of 5 races. i ran my fastest time in my last race with the cords showing so im hoping for some 19's when i get down there next. i dont think id be lucky enough to pull any 18's, but i got big elbows so maybe i can get in front of you and keep you back there. ;) j/k
Quotei think matt wait actually hit 14's last year.. but it may have been 15's.. either way that is just fucking nuts.
That was unreal! We were in the turn 4 bleachers and watched him slide both wheels through 4 and back it into turn 5 for 30 laps. During his cool down, he got a major standing ovation from all of us.
My husband, during that race said, "well, if anyone wants to know the fastest way around summit point, apparently that's it." :o
Quoteif i hit the wall i don't think that i would have been able to come back as quick as you have, fwiw. ?0,,2don't under estimate some crashes affect on you. ?0,,2i'm still slow out of turn 1 getting on the gas after highsiding there 2 seasons ago, and your get off was 10 times worse.
the season is still very young.
you still rode well ., for coming from crashed ., like peanut said., it takes a while to get back to full speed.... do not let it get to you . ,just get back out and ride the track , not other guys , at first to get the grove back on...
btw i was #989 pitted right next to you !! you really did not do as bad as it seems., and does suck about the bike... but you are in one piece !!!!
Matt Wait was turning 14's...I was in the bleachers on the outside of T10 with my jaw dropped everytime I saw him come over the hill and just crush it thru 10. He's just wrong! ;D
Quoteyou still rode well ., for coming from crashed ., like peanut said., it takes a while to get back to full speed.... do not let it get to you . ,just get back out and ride the track , not other guys , at first to get the grove back on...
btw i was #989 pitted right next to you !! you really did not do as bad as it seems., and does suck about the bike... but you are in one piece !!!!
now I notice the "off the wall racing" ;D you guys seem to make out ok and had fun. Wouldn't be so friendly if we had burned your canopies down :D
I know it takes time, just taking too long for my taste. and hitting snags like my face plant isn't helping. Bike is not too bad, all I need to buy is a windscreen. Everything else is fixed now. Well my beautiful new tank took a beating... well thats what I get for getting a brand new bike to race.
you know I was watching your video that night and keep saying to myself "this doesn't look like me" I really not riding like how I rode. I need to work that out. This year is killing my confidence and pride. Now that I got that first crash on the new bike out of the way, maybe I can go faster now 8)
"now I notice the "off the wall racing" you guys seem to make out ok and had fun. Wouldn't be so friendly if we had burned your canopies down "
LOL.... sure would .,
yeah we had a blast 3 of us battling every race,. 575, 701 and 989me.. we did not run as fast as i hoped we would ,. but we had more fun doing what we were doing anyway....
and getting the first crash out of the way on a NEW bike sure may help alot !!!!! at least i hope !!! was this your first race back for the season ?? or were you at VIR also ?? we will see you out there again., and i hope i am doing well enough to run with you when you are back up to speed !!!
Quote"now I notice the "off the wall racing" you guys seem to make out ok and had fun. Wouldn't be so friendly if we had burned your canopies down "
LOL.... sure would .,
yeah we had a blast 3 of us battling every race,. 575, 701 and 989me.. we did not run as fast as i hoped we would ,. but we had more fun doing what we were doing anyway....
and getting the first crash out of the way on a NEW bike sure may help alot !!!!! at least i hope !!! was this your first race back for the season ?? or were you at VIR also ?? we will see you out there again., and i hope i am doing well enough to run with you when you are back up to speed !!!
he was at VIR too, he was right next to me in all the races, remember when my grids got screwed up???
I know all about crashing hard, i crashed at VIR last season and it put me out of commission for the rest of the season, i broke both ankles, right wrist and hand. and i'm back, I'm not 100% but i'm trying to ease onto the season.... mental block is a Bit###, we had a blast this weekend that's for sure!!!
at least you got to meet the craziest of the crew already. some of those offthewall guys are nucking futs. ;D
I have an opportunity to ride as much as I can at trackdays, so I am probably going to focus on riding better and getting faster, instead of racing, until I get back up to old speed. While it is always fun to race, the pressure of doing as well as I "potentially" can and not having able to do so, really take some fun out of it and put a lot of stress on myself. I am going back to Summit on Monday, and have another weekend coming up in june. I was going to make it to the FUSA weekend, but I may just skip that one. Last year I busted my butt getting there to race only to come home with a broken butt (lol that was my big crash) so this year instead of sharing my vacation and the weekend the same trip, I may just take the vacation instead.
I am going to be doing 18's at summit by the end of the year :) or I am going back to the yellow plates ;D :D ;)
by the way, you guys ARE nuts... you come to the races just to race each others ;D I didn't get to see my teammate once in the races.
Hey R6, I'm an old slow guy so you don't really need my advice but I'm giving it anyway.
Be gentle with yourself. It WILL be back. When it's back, you'll know it. Had a minor get off to begin 03 and almost gave it up, I had no confidence, not in myself, my equipment, or fellow riders. Went out and my laptimes just sucked and only raced 1/2 the year. Went to a track day this April and whatever was in my brain screwing with me is gone. I'm glad I didn't bail. It will be back. The more you worry about it the worse it is. Just go like it was the first track day you ever rode and you are there to have fun. Turn the timer off and enjoy that you're able to be on track at all and don't race anybody. In practice find empty space to fool around with corners you know you're not hitting. Have fun instead of trying to beat you times. More than likely, you'll do what you do best and the times will be slip back in automaticly. Best of luck
QuoteI had no confidence, not in myself, my equipment, or fellow riders. Went out and my laptimes just sucked and only raced 1/2 the year.
And this is where my work begins...
These are the kind of racer problems that I work with in my school programs...Visionsports' Racer University and my one on one stuff. There are ways around it, things to do, things to look for.
Doug you are a wise man indeed! How's the motor coming along?
last year after my get off that cost me 3/4 of the season i got back and couldn't even roll on the throttle because my wrist was so screwed up, could do anything cause my ankles had no mobility, but Scott Greenwood worked with me one day in practice and the best advice he gave me is this.....
You will crash, the best thing you can do is analyze why, have confidence in your equipment put it back the correct way, know what you are working with. As long as you know your equipment is good everything else will come to you. I had asked him what does he do to deal with mental block, and he replied that when he crashes he writes off his losses and goes right back out knowing that his equipment is in top shape and there is no reason why he can't go out and do the same he did preaviously....
Sort of not related but, I was involved in a bad street accident on the bike last year (tractor trailer swerved into the front of my bike, taking me out). I was flown to shock trauma with a broken collarbone, shoulderblade, 3 ribs, collapsed lung and a severely twisted ankle. I don't remember much about the accident itself..and am still physically recovering from the accident (May 19th of 03)
I've been riding again both on the street and on the track but I'm still way f-ed up in the head..whenever I hear something (bike/car) near me I tense up for a moment and the heart starts pounding. I'm back to commuting daily on the bike, but I know on the track I'm going to be pretty slow- and won't be able to get track time in.
I need to get up my confidence again- if anyone else has more tips please let me know!
Hey Bernie, sorry I didn't get to say goodbye the other day. Took the motor to HD of Baltimore and they straightend the rod. He said he thinks it came apart because of valve overlap. so with my new super duper SV eatin' heads I'm not going to chance it, Im going to let him put it together. Hope your hand is feeling better, that looked like it really stung.
Cool deal, we'll see you over the FUSA weekend then? Thanks again for the band-aids. I got some x-rays to make sure everything is kosher, and I'm good to go.
QuoteI need to get up my confidence again- if anyone else has more tips please let me know!
Street ridin' is just plain dangerous. Too many morons. I don't mind an occasional ride...
But my friends that like to sport ride seem to like to talk about my crashes, which happen, but I walk away...even after all these years of racing...endurance racing, AMA Pro, vintage...yet, I'm not the one with fused wrists and a zipper knee.
QuoteI'm not the one with fused wrists
Be nice! :-[