What a cluster... Anyway, does anyone know when and where the races will be made up? Hope its a 3 region race weekend so all of us can make it.
I'm almost sure that it will be this coming Blackhawk date, Saturday May 8th. Who know's how that will change tho....
They mentioned it would be at BlackHawk on the May 30th Weekend, Kind of a bummer for those who didn't plan on going :-/
Stumpy
Well, May 30th is Memorial Day Weekend....
How many races were rescheduled?
Dawn
12-17 on sunday. I'm going to be really bummed if they don't schedule it on a Great Plains weekend. It was bad enough that it was $75 per race and they are transferring it to a track that is usually $45 after your first few entries.
They told me in the scoring tower that it would be for Saturday, May 8th at BHF.
They changed it to the weekend of May 29/30th due to it being a triple region event and May 8th isn't.
Only problem with Labor day is that that wasn't on the schedule for Great Plains. We do Gateway that month. Why not July at MAM or Barber in August?
QuoteThey changed it to the weekend of May 29/30th due to it being a triple region event and May 8th isn't.
Ok well that is great - what about those of us who will be at Summit Point attending the next FUSA round??
This is ridiculous. Just give us refunds and be done with it. It's bad enough I sat around all day in the freezing cold for nothing... not to mention that since they rescheduled, I am now paying $55 a class for those two classes, to now run at BHF, where it would normally cost $35.
I'm down for a total cancelation and refunds as well. I'd rather have my $150 than 2 races at BHF.
Contact CCS to see if you can get your races refunded to you....
;)
QuoteI'm down for a total cancelation and refunds as well.
Ditto.
I heard they were going to be held on the moon!!! June 20th.....
I heard this I heard that.....what a joke!!!!!
You would think that if the CCS REALLY CARES they would inform everyone on what is going on!!!! They got there money....big deal to them!!!!! The only right thing to do is to refund that money to each raced enter in the races....CCS knows that's the right thing to do!!!! But they will not do that!!!! God for bid give money back. No way!
And what was up with finishing entire cool down lap. what a complete waste of time. when you are already crushed for time.
What I have heard is that Kevin is going to be sending everyone that is entered in those races a postcard to let them know which event those 5 races will be rescheduled to. If you want to cancel your races, you can call the office and they will give you a refund for those classes but you have to cancel them before the event in order to get a refund.
Hope this helps out.
QuoteWhat I have heard is that Kevin is going to be sending everyone that is entered in those races a postcard to let them know which event those 5 races will be rescheduled to. If you want to cancel your races, you can call the office and they will give you a refund for those classes but you have to cancel them before the event in order to get a refund.
Hope this helps out.
Ok - if that is what happens, then that is fine with me. Hopefully it falls on a weekend that I will be able to attend - it'd be nice to keep up the points a little.
Hopefully we here from Kevin before it is to late to cancel. I'd like to know where the races will be run before I try for a refund, so I can at least make an attempt to stay up in the points.
QuoteAnd what was up with finishing entire cool down lap. what a complete waste of time. when you are already crushed for time.
Really! You're not suppose to 'show off' with wheelies, stoppies, burn-outs...so what's the point. Just a waste of another quart of fuel.
Now if wheelies were allowed, I'd be all for a full cool down lap ;D
Somone brought up the fact at the riders meeting that FUSA riders shouldn't come in at turn 5 because that left the oppurtunity for changes to the bike in the pits quickly.
It was then decided that all races would run full cool down lap. ??? :o
I just talked to CCS. Rescheduled Races are going to be held at Heartland Park on June 19th. Only riders gridded at RA can Grid for the rescheduled races, and those that where gridded at RA get a free track day at Heartland Park ;) Way to settle things up CCS! Thanks,
Thats for the Great Plains Reschedule, other regions may be running elswhere for the reschedule.
QuoteI just talked to CCS. Rescheduled Races are going to be held at Heartland Park on June 19th. Only riders gridded at RA can Grid for the rescheduled races, and those that where gridded at RA get a free track day at Heartland Park ;) Way to settle things up CCS! Thanks,
Very good solution IMHO. :)
QuoteThats for the Great Plains Reschedule, other regions may be running elswhere for the reschedule.
How is this possible? So we can go to Topeka June 20 and make them up for Great Plains and go somewhere else to make them up for Midwest? And another for Great Lakes? How can one race be ran three different times? Am I understanding this wrong?
Heather
Great Lakes and Northern will run there race at an event they are both already at. Great Plains and Mid West will run at Heartland Park where we will already be at. Points will be added to thier respective regions, unfortunatly My Great Plains points won't transfer over to Northern like they would have had we run at RA. I'm happy with the soltion though. By the way what is IMHO?
how about us mw folks who didn't plan on going to heartland park? Are we sol?
Heartland Park on the 20th is a MW event so you should be there. If your not in it for points call and get your money back.
i planned on going to all the midwest races i could, but due to a baby i am forced to miss heartland park and mid america.
i thought i would only miss two rounds, but now due to ccs' f@$%k up's i will miss three rounds because i didnt get to race on sunday cause my races didn't run.
the best solution is to refund everyone who was entered in the rescheduled races.
that way nobody looses road america points if they can't go to heartland.
anyway,
you think they can run five extra races in a one day event.
last time at heartland they cut laps in the last few races cause they were running out of time.
five more races...... i doubt it.
just cancel them and give us all refunds.
I think the only fair way to actually run the make-up races would be with all 3 regions present at the same time that were at RA. Otherwise if you had say 5 riders at a single region event the difference between individual finishing positions, and the points paid, would be different than if all 3 regions were present. Also how would it be decided for people following multiple regions, would I race at multiple events then?
As far as refunds for those races goes, I suppose it would be fair if all racers in those remaining classes were refunded and no 1 raced them at all. But, I highly doubt that would be the option since CCS still had to pay the huge rental fees and costs associated with the RA event, and refunds for those races would probably be something like $10,000 (guessing). To move those races to another triple region event doesn't lose CCS any money and would only require running races at that event using the number of laps we used last season, for the entire event (we always seemed to finish early last year). If some people can't attend the triple region event with the RA make-up races, then refund them their money, because if their not attending that event in the 1st place then points are most likely not of concern.
Road America was a 4 region event. I would have been happy either way...I guess it worked out better for us than you. Sorry. Hope you can make it anyway, my teamate had a baby in NICU and made it to Road America. You'll find a way if your motivated.
Quote Hope you can make it anyway, my teamate had a baby in NICU and made it to Road America. You'll find a way if your motivated.
Sorry Chuck....
I have to disagree with you there. Everyone knows that I would do anything to be at the track and get Paul to the track. However, if we were racing at the time that Renee was in the NICU (not that he would have because to him family is first), I would have had his balls.
Dawn
Just to clarify, RA was a 3 region event: Great Plains, Midwest and Great Lakes. There is no Northern region.
I say reschedule in the Bahamas the 3rd week in January. I'm pretty sure Team Stumpy can make that.
Heather
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I say reschedule in the Bahamas the 3rd week in January. I'm pretty sure Team Stumpy can make that.
Heather
Count me in for THAT!!!!!
Your right, Im looking at a copy of the printed CCS schedule it lists a Northern Region. When I went directly to the CCS site they don't list one. Another reason I'm a newbie I guess...
Familly is first for everyone on the team, I think my Teamate wanted to keep racing to keep his sanity. He's been doing nothing but Hospital activities for 4 months now.
Quote By the way what is IMHO?
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Hope your teammate's baby is out of the unit soon. :-/
Blaise is doing well, she is 6 pounds now. As soon as she can eat on her own she is going home...finally. Thank you, Mike needs all the support he can get.
By the way...I'm down for the bahama reschedule as well ;)
QuoteFamilly is first for everyone on the team, I think my Teamate wanted to keep racing to keep his sanity. He's been doing nothing but Hospital activities for 4 months now.
Aahhhhh...
Now with more information, that make sense. Wow, I remember those days..... :( I can see why he went racing now.
I hope all goes well, my prayers to everyone.
Dawn :)
Thanks Dawn :)
I am Chuck's team mate that he had been speaking of. I have had and will continue to have a long road with my daughter in the NICU. I want to take a moment to thank all of you for your support of my family and my daughter Blaise.
She will be there for at least another 3-4 weeks, probably longer. As Chuck hinted to, My wife was on strict bed rest for 10 weeks before goinginto the hospital in January. She was there 7 weeks before blaise was born 10 weeks early. Blaise is now 10 weeks old and still having problems. This has been an issue since November, so I do really appriciate the good wishes.
I have continued my racing plans due to sponsorship commitments I made and people paided for, but additionally, it is one of the only things that I can focus on enough that I am not thinking about my daughter every moment (just between races).
Again, thanks to everyone and I will see you at the track. Find us in the pits and say hello.
Mike
God bless, good luck to Blaise, your wife and you... and we'll see you out there! 8)
I am all for the Islands in January, but could we have some sort of confirmation from Ft Worth please; which regions are making up their respective races where/when?
Also, we ran race 12 on Sunday afternoon, the last one of the day. Was that race nullified and going to be re-run?
QuoteAlso, we ran race 12 on Sunday afternoon, the last one of the day. Was that race nullified and going to be re-run?
I couldn't believe when I heard the 1st call for race 12, since it was like 5:45, the current FUSA race was still racing out on the track, and we had to be done by 6:00. We got our warm-up lap, 1 flying race lap and part of another one (not sure if the leader got 2 full laps?), then the red flag was thrown. Waiting to do that lap and a half caused me to stay 3 hours later than I think was needed. In my opinion there should have been a decision made mid afternoon that the FUSA races would complete the day. Figuring the race lengths by the average pace the leaders run, it was obvious that it was going to be lucky to get all of the FUSA races completed, but time for even 1 CCS race didn't seem likely.
I think this extra race distance thing is still getting the bugs worked out of it, but adding a full cool down lap on Saturday wasn't really the best choice.The added race distance (5 laps instead of 4) pushes the time finished back by about an hour, a full cool down lap at RA does about the same thing, so that pushes our finish time out by apx. 2 hours. I suppose we chalk that 1 up to live and learn. :-/
QuoteI am Chuck's team mate that he had been speaking of. I have had and will continue to have a long road with my daughter in the NICU. I want to take a moment to thank all of you for your support of my family and my daughter Blaise.
She will be there for at least another 3-4 weeks, probably longer. As Chuck hinted to, My wife was on strict bed rest for 10 weeks before goinginto the hospital in January. She was there 7 weeks before blaise was born 10 weeks early. Blaise is now 10 weeks old and still having problems. This has been an issue since November, so I do really appriciate the good wishes.
I have continued my racing plans due to sponsorship commitments I made and people paided for, but additionally, it is one of the only things that I can focus on enough that I am not thinking about my daughter every moment (just between races).
Again, thanks to everyone and I will see you at the track. Find us in the pits and say hello.
Mike
Hey Mike,
It was nice to meet you Sunday. What are the odds? ??? :)
Tigerblade- Mike told me you guys bumped into each other at breakfast/brunch. That's crazy. Come over to the pit and say hello at Gateway.
QuoteTigerblade- Mike told me you guys bumped into each other at breakfast/brunch. That's crazy. Come over to the pit and say hello at Gateway.
Pretty funny. You meet the nicest people when you wear racing shirts... LOL
1. Did I miss the posting for where/when these regions' races will be made up? There are now three different notions floating around for make-ups; June 19th @ HP, May 8th @ BHF, May 30th @ BHF.
2. What's the deal with race #12 from RAmerica on Sunday. A lot of people like me stuck around all day to run it, and we did. Race 12 is rumored to be one of the races to make up. Of course it's only a rumor because noone in scheduling from CCS has come out and made this issue clear. What is the deal.
3. Is CCS run by Clear Channel or simply owned by them? It seems ironic that a communications company owned company can't keep their bread and butter informed through a BBS? :o
Call CCS and ask!
This is the 'unofficial forum'
Dawn ;)
Thanks Dawn, I thought Eric/Kevin/Keith would address this for everyone to see? (Gotta dip into the brake fluid fund for the long distance call. Who needs brakes?) ;D
Quote1. Did I miss the posting for where/when these regions' races will be made up? There are now three different notions floating around for make-ups; June 19th @ HP, May 8th @ BHF, May 30th @ BHF.
Add a 4th. Last I had heard, it was rescheduled for the 6/20 weekend at Topeka.
according to tiffiney at ccs they are being run at topeka on the weekend 19/20th june. ??? ???
If it's at Topeka they are going to be giving alot of refund's.
Quoteaccording to tiffiney at ccs they are being run at topeka on the weekend 19/20th june. ??? ???
Did Tiffany happen to mention how CCS was going to update all of the necessary riders? Email? Postcards? Not to mention instructions on applying for refunds if you can't make it.
My guess would be that it will be the same way they notified everybody of dropping the Northern region and also the 1st Topeka from the Midwest region...
OK, I left voice mails w/ Linda Hipps and Tiffiney about hopefully clearing this up as to when/where and for which regions the make-ups will be. We'll see what shakes out.
Chuck, I don't mean to discount what you have heard from Tiffiney. I'm trying to clarify whether race #12 is in the make-ups, even though we ran it. Were there protests filed by anyone who felt Sunday's #12 should be re run?
Post whatever you hear to be the latest news...just in case we don't hear from CCS. :-/
Have heard not a word-except that @ RA the announcer said make-ups will be at BHF May 8 & 9. I guess if noone in scheduling wants to clarify we go w/ what we were told at the last race.
The announcer said that they would be at BHF May 8/9 then later said that they would be at BHF the May 30'th weekend.
All regions will make up RAmerica's unfinished races in Topeka, on June 19th, as Chuck reported. This includes race 12 from Sunday the 25th. I guess we didn't run enough laps.
It will be considered a free track day, after conclusion of the races, with those who are attending the SportRider TD. Tiffiney :) called Wed afternoon and was very nice to talk with. ;D