I raced a total of three CCS races last year (2003)
I'm going to RA on the 24th (Saturday) of April and looking for some advice about what races to enter in.
I'm thinking LWGP, LWSB, and LWSS.
Does anyone have any suggestions for the Newbie.
What about Supertwins, will I get spanked? :-[
Thanks
Nick
SV will get spanked in dry conditions at RA in Super Twins race.
Think about GTL for track time. Other classes look good from a class fit standpoint.
QuoteSV will get spanked in dry conditions at RA in Super Twins race.
Think about GTL for track time. Other classes look good from a class fit standpoint.
BS you can run an SV in supertwins anywhere. I got third on mine at Daytona a month ago. It is hard to win, but easy to place well. Very few big twin riders are fast in WERA or CCS.
I won a supertwins race on a Ducati 749S. Went against Mille R's, SV 1000, SV650's, ect. 2nd place was a SV650, and CUDA is right on one thing, not a lot of really fast riders in Supertwins from my ONLY experiance. Hey, I won, and I'm slow ;D
I'd say race it. What do you have to lose? If you win, you'll get hella bragging rights. SV650 kills a bunch of Ducati's and Aprilia's. ;)
The SV650 rocks the thunderbike class
Jeff
My first year racin an SV also, planned on the same classes minus the LWSS because it's combined with UltaLightSuperbike and I'm running the MZ in that. Thought about SuperTwins also and maybe GTL, $$$ is the issue with me on how many classes I do.
What Eric said.
I am racing
LWT SBK
LWT S/S
GT Lites
and I will enter Thunderbike & LWT GP depending on the track
As far as Supertwins, you will see guys on SV's turn the exact same times as guys on RC-51/ & 998's. So go for it, its all about the start in a race like that and being consistent.
QuoteAs far as Supertwins, you will see guys on SV's turn the exact same times as guys on RC-51/ & 998's. So go for it, its all about the start in a race like that and being consistent.
Okay, IMHO and all that...
Guys, he's only raced three times. Yes, some can keep up with RCs, etc., but I think Eric's advice is right on for a newbie's first time on Road America.
Nick, you know if you're fast or not yet fast. I'd look at it this way; Supertwins will be the most competitive class of the weekend. At other Midwest tracks there's often little difference at all, but at RA the larger hp bikes will probably run away from you from start to turn 5, leaving you with 5 laps of track time for the entry fees you spent. Obviously, if you're interested in accumulating points and plan to run Supertwins during the year, or just want seat time, you won't want to skip it.
Take a look at last year's results. There were 12 entries in AM Supertwins. The two SV's came in 6 and 8. Not a very strong showing and the 6 place finisher is a fast guy, although it's possible he was having jetting issues that weekend. In the EX Supertwins there were 16 entries. The only three SVs entered came in 14, 15 and 16.
GT lights gives you the better bang for the buck since you get more time on the track.
The jury is in on whether an SV can run with supertwins. See VIR results. ;)
I'm not looking. Was it a newbie on a stock motor with only 3 races in his career? :P :)
QuoteOkay, IMHO and all that...
Guys, he's only raced three times. Yes, some can keep up with RCs, etc., but I think Eric's advice is right on for a newbie's first time on Road America.
Nick, you know if you're fast or not yet fast. I'd look at it this way; Supertwins will be the most competitive class of the weekend. At other Midwest tracks there's often little difference at all, but at RA the larger hp bikes will probably run away from you from start to turn 5, leaving you with 5 laps of track time for the entry fees you spent. Obviously, if you're interested in accumulating points and plan to run Supertwins during the year, or just want seat time, you won't want to skip it.
Take a look at last year's results. There were 12 entries in AM Supertwins. The two SV's came in 6 and 8. Not a very strong showing and the 6 place finisher is a fast guy, although it's possible he was having jetting issues that weekend. In the EX Supertwins there were 16 entries. The only three SVs entered came in 14, 15 and 16.
GT lights gives you the better bang for the buck since you get more time on the track.
I will agree with you dylan, GT Lites is great for track time for newbies in racing, seeing that I am one. The race was great @ jennings last weekend. That being said on tight tracks I think that a good rider could finish nicle in the Supertwins. And you will almost always have a big enough grid for contingency. From what I have seen @ least.
Biggest thing man is if you feel like running it then run it, it's all about fun.
Thanks for the replies guys.
I can't race GTL unless if I "COUGH" "COUGH" call in sick on Friday! :o Don't tell the boss if I do!
But, thats what I'm hearing.... best bang for the buck and the most track time with GTL.
I'll sign up and Race LWSS, LWGP and LWSB. If I have an extra few bucks from a side job pending I'll say fug it and race Supertwins.
I should be good and primed, I did a track day at Grattan Last weekend, BHF this coming weekend and RA the weekend after.
See you guys out there.
Nick,
If you're at BHF on Sunday, say Hi. I'm a silver SV #53 like in the photo but white plate.
BTW, BHF is an example of a track where LW Supertwins is about like the rest of the LW races.
QuoteBut, thats what I'm hearing.... best bang for the buck and the most track time with GTL.
I'll sign up and Race LWSS, LWGP and LWSB. If I have an extra few bucks from a side job pending I'll say fug it and race Supertwins.
You may want to race Thunderbikes before S-twins, if you're on a limited budget. Tbikes is more restricted (no desmos or litre twins for instance) than Stwins, so the SV tends to fare better. I ran Am S-twins last year a few times, and gave up mid season - got tired of running down Aprilia 1000s and Duc 996s in the infield, only to be passed on the straight.