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Racing Discussion => Racing Discussion => Topic started by: Jeff on April 09, 2004, 07:15:09 AM

Title: How much work do you have left?
Post by: Jeff on April 09, 2004, 07:15:09 AM
So, I sit here trying to prioritize everything between now and Road A, a mere 2 weeks away.  I have:

Finish sanding 2 sets of bodywork
Prime/Sand/Paint/Sticker bodywork
Pick up bike from Drucker's (8hr round trip jaunt w/pickup and lunch)
Re-gear bike
Mount new tires on spare wheels
Install new brake controller in new van
Organize spares
Clean out trailer
Prep generator
Load trailer

Damn...  Now that I've laid it all out it doesn't seem too bad.  But I've also got this new hot tub sitting in my back yard which I REALLY want functional for when I get back from Road A.  For that, I need to:

Finish digging 8" deep hole for pad
Wire to main box (brother will do tomorrow)
Build concrete frames
Find somewhere to get gravel on a Saturday
Pour concrete
Figure out  how to move a 650lb tub onto the new concrete slab...

My kids are on spring break now.  I guess I could make them do some of this!  ;D  Man will I have ONE UGLY bike  ;D
Title: Re: How much work do you have left?
Post by: smoke on April 09, 2004, 07:22:59 AM
 I need to work out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My legs were jello yesterday.
Title: Re: How much work do you have left?
Post by: EX#996 on April 09, 2004, 07:34:47 AM
Paul gets the motor back on March 29th and THEN he dives into the wiring harness.   ::)

Motor and exhaust is installed and he will finish the wiring harness today (I certainly hope there's no problems).

He needs to break in the motor and take it down for dyno tuning.  

What is left to do....

Get the motorhome out of the barn (Dawn)
Change oil and rotate tires (Paul)
Pack the trailer and motor home (Dawn)
Repaint and sticker body work (Paul)
Build an aluminum subframe (Paul)
Rebuild his slip on (Paul)

Needless to say we will be at RA, but Paul won't be racing (he'll be working corners so be sure to "wave" to him on your way by).  He doesn't want to take is brand new $$$$ motor where there is sooo much WOT.

Blackhawk....  heh heh heh.....  NOW that's a different story!

Dawn   ;D
Title: Re: How much work do you have left?
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on April 09, 2004, 09:09:19 AM
Maybe Sunday I'll take my bike out of the trailer and see if it will start. ;D
Title: Re: How much work do you have left?
Post by: cornercamping on April 09, 2004, 09:30:56 AM
I've gotta
Title: Re: How much work do you have left?
Post by: cornercamping on April 09, 2004, 09:34:12 AM
I've gotta STILL:

Wait another 1.5 weeks to get my bodywork for Sharkskinz.

Take the bike to my mechanic to put the rear shock/fork kit in (have the parts, not a big deal.)

Send them off for paint which will take a week to get back.

Change the cheap Dunlops on there now and put a set of DOT Michelin on.

Finish Saftey Wiring (if I wanna run WERA with her  ::) )  CCS regs are done.

That's about it.  It cost me a bunch of money, but I got her set up quick.  I'll take some pics and post shortly.
Title: Re: How much work do you have left?
Post by: diesel748 on April 09, 2004, 09:42:29 AM
Tires That's it-Tom M please call me back
I've worked alot this off season on the duck
Done
Bodywork(fitted & Painted)
clip-ons
fix dented Gas tank
new rear spring(set suspension)
new throttle
clutch reseviour(mount fill and bleed)
rear sets(fix tabs)
leathers/helmet
and a whole bunch of little junk that takes way to long!
Title: Re: How much work do you have left?
Post by: dwilson on April 09, 2004, 10:39:21 AM
I still need to learn to go faster  ;D

The bike's done and I plan to touch *NOTHING*, only suspension adjustment and playing with sprockets...  Now that I've said that I'll probably find a deal on a big bore kit or cams or something  8)
Title: Re: How much work do you have left?
Post by: cornercamping on April 09, 2004, 10:53:23 AM
QuoteI still need to learn to go faster  ;D


Faster is just a figment of the imagination  ;D
Title: Re: How much work do you have left?
Post by: lil_thorny on April 09, 2004, 11:16:21 AM
QuoteI still need to learn to go faster  ;D

The bike's done and I plan to touch *NOTHING*, only suspension adjustment and playing with sprockets...  Now that I've said that I'll probably find a deal on a big bore kit or cams or something  8)
DON,
I just hope that learning and doing go hand in hand ???
for me I mean...with all the technology out there...it
is getting harder to just ride the wheels off of it.
Title: Re: How much work do you have left?
Post by: smoke on April 09, 2004, 11:24:48 AM
Thorny

The learning was made simple and to the point. I think we all took a lot away form yesterday.

" ITs a progressive state"  
We learned things that will make u faster but you keep learning and u have to practice. Well I do at least.
Title: Re: How much work do you have left?
Post by: lil_thorny on April 09, 2004, 11:44:52 AM
Smoke,
I was being serious... I mean...and anybody else
chime in too....are club racers getting closer to factory performance? I think that the line is getting thinner and thinner don't you?  I keep thinking of my Daytona experience...which don't get me wrong turned out pretty good...but I literally got "Smoked"
on the banks..and I have a Super Sported motor.
These were 600's passing me like I was on a Moped.
Shorter tracks are a different story for sure, but, depending on your financial situation, a great rider
could be left in the dust by a well funded lackluster
rider with big brakes and lots-o motor. Skill still plays
the biggest part of it all, but back to my original question:
Are club racers slowly closing the gap on factory type
performance? And, with all of the big HP numbers coming off the assembly line, will we have to buy new to stay competitive?  Nevermind, I guess I know the answer to that already...YES.
so does practice even matter as much anymore when you have to compete against guys with 10-15 more HP.
I need to race.
Title: Re: How much work do you have left?
Post by: r1owner on April 09, 2004, 11:46:10 AM
I just have to bed in my new brake pads and I am ready.  

My first race isn't until May 16th! :(
Title: Re: How much work do you have left?
Post by: Zac on April 09, 2004, 02:26:36 PM
Man, this season I've already done a race school, raced at (and crashed at ) the CCS southwest season opener, put my bike back together, and raced at the ASMA season opener.  What's taking you guys so long  ;D ;D ;D ;D

I love living were it dosn't snow  :P

-z.
Title: Re: How much work do you have left?
Post by: Woofentino Pugrossi on April 09, 2004, 05:10:59 PM
Were we supposed to start yet? :o ;D


Racebike STILL is in teh storage area.:D:D Gonna get it ready this weekend.:D
Title: Re: How much work do you have left?
Post by: smoke on April 09, 2004, 06:55:36 PM
QuoteSmoke,
I was being serious... I mean...and anybody else
chime in too....are club racers getting closer to factory performance? I think that the line is getting thinner and thinner don't you?  I keep thinking of my Daytona experience...which don't get me wrong turned out pretty good...but I literally got "Smoked"
on the banks..and I have a Super Sported motor.
These were 600's passing me like I was on a Moped.
Shorter tracks are a different story for sure, but, depending on your financial situation, a great rider
could be left in the dust by a well funded lackluster
rider with big brakes and lots-o motor. Skill still plays
the biggest part of it all, but back to my original question:
Are club racers slowly closing the gap on factory type
performance? And, with all of the big HP numbers coming off the assembly line, will we have to buy new to stay competitive?  Nevermind, I guess I know the answer to that already...YES.
so does practice even matter as much anymore when you have to compete against guys with 10-15 more HP.
I need to race.


You are right a club racer with deep pockets can buy the bike and HP  he needs and not have the skill to ride.  

Can't we take pride in the fact that we don't cheet? Make mods to our bikes that are not allowed all for the sake of a wood? or is it all in the chance to get a factory ride?

I know I can't buy a new bike every year so I have to do the best I can with what I have, take classes, track schools with people like "SD" and go out and do the best I can.  If I go out and buy a motor with more HP I am still going to be slow because I don't have the skills yet to use it or control it.

In the EX class you have almost not choice but to spend the money for HP to keep up. You have the skill! u have/are a national champ.
When u won was it the bike or your skill?  From what I have heard about you and from reading some the items that u have wrote I think u won because of your skill. I can't imagen how frustating it may have been for u at daytona.
Title: Re: How much work do you have left?
Post by: cornercamping on April 09, 2004, 07:13:18 PM
Skill is aquired not bought.  Regardless, sooner or later, it will simply be a money match, just like everything else.  Take a look at what bikes are coming out.  Here's the perfect cheater bike:

2004 Ducati 749R

Supersport LEGAL.

Stock, 118 HP.  Slip on, 122 HP, Full System, 127 HP and you run it against 600's.  It has all the goodies right from the factory.  Lighthened Machesini wheels, Ohlins suspension, carbon fairngs, and everything else.  $20K and your at a huge advantage of standard supersport 600's.  Now, you put a super fast skilled rider on that thing, and a championship title is on it's way.   Show me a 600 that can give you 127 HP that is SS legal?  That bike was built for that exact reason.    

Ducati, and the rest of them know this.  It's not even a bling bike.  It's a "I have a big bank account" advantage bike.  BUT... lose him in the corners, and there isn't much straigtaway to use the HP on.  How do I know, I USE to be one of these guys.  I've learned I need to ride what will make ME FASTER, because I control the bike.  My prior bikes:

2003 Ducati 749s
2003 Aprilia Mille R
2004 Yamha R6
1999 Yamaha R6 (bastard bike)

Current Race Bike: 2004 GSXR600

Why?  Spending $20K and getting SMOKED doesn't do for me.  Believe it or not, I'd rather place 10th and earn it, than pay for it.  ;)  and guess where I learned it... believe it or not, the WERA board, and I can't stand 95% of those pricks, but... they were right.  I should have started on an SV or similar, and learned the corner speed, and how to ride.  Instead, I started out camping the corners, and blowing the doors off everything on the straightaway.  Then, I learned where most of the track is, and that isn't on the straight  ;)  Yes, your gonna have to get with the times, because as faster guys pick up newer models, they get huge advantages, but the slow guys will still be there.  
Title: Re: How much work do you have left?
Post by: smoke on April 10, 2004, 07:08:21 AM
Thats all I want is corner speed. "SD" made a few changes to allow it to turn in quicker. I felt so much better.

Yes I have thought about a new motor with tons of HP. I even know where there is one already to mount in my bike.  But it just would not make me feel good.  I don't mind working hard to develop skill.

But for others like thorny they have the skill already and need the HP to be competative what then?
Title: Re: How much work do you have left?
Post by: lil_thorny on April 10, 2004, 07:10:43 AM
QuoteYou are right a club racer with deep pockets can buy the bike and HP  he needs and not have the skill to ride.  

Can't we take pride in the fact that we don't cheet? Make mods to our bikes that are not allowed all for the sake of a wood? or is it all in the chance to get a factory ride?

I know I can't buy a new bike every year so I have to do the best I can with what I have, take classes, track schools with people like "SD" and go out and do the best I can.  If I go out and buy a motor with more HP I am still going to be slow because I don't have the skills yet to use it or control it.

In the EX class you have almost not choice but to spend the money for HP to keep up. You have the skill! u have/are a national champ.
When u won was it the bike or your skill?  From what I have heard about you and from reading some the items that u have wrote I think u won because of your skill. I can't imagen how frustating it may have been for u at daytona.

It was frustrating on the banks, but also exhilerating
to close the gap on everylap of the infield. I guess
I'm not too worried you know??  When we race against the heavyweights, they still have the challenge of putting all that HP and torque to the pavement, and we(600's) still beat them anyway...
so more power doesn't bother me so much as cornercampers with straightaway speed...getting in the way ;)  Man, I need to race!!!

30.
Title: Re: How much work do you have left?
Post by: lil_thorny on April 10, 2004, 07:31:31 AM
The cheaters know who they are...I could name a few... and they are friends that I will compete against
for sure. But, I wouldn't stoop to tearing them down..
for a slice of wood. I think that the cream always
rises to the top and it will continue to do so. I just need to race. Super Dave gave me alot of advice last year as did my cousin. Both of them were very
constructive concerning my riding skills...I was not pretty. But I improved. practice does make perfect...
I crashed alot. In practice. I improved the most by practicing with the 750's... I got alot smoother by trying to keep up with Mike Shallcross and Mike Roeser during Daves schools and practice. Watching those guys(750's) pull away from me out of the corners, forced me to be smoother and make less mistakes. Consistency and being smooth is what was
drilled into my little brain by Super Dave and PJ (THORNY)...All that stuff equates to quicker lap times
and longer lasting tires and brakes.  All 4 guys are riding R6's this year with big HP numbers, so I'm anxious to battle against them on my Suzi.