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Title: I just need to get this off my chest...
Post by: Dawn on March 26, 2004, 03:19:29 PM
I know that there are always two sides to every story.....  but this is something that I just need to put out here and get off my conscience.  It has been eating on me for some time, and it doesn't even effect me personally!

I care deeply for many of you on this board, some I consider family, but one of friends has been taken advantage of by another.  Money, parts, and damage to a piece of equipment that you (you know who you are) borrowed have not chosen not to make right.   Now you're looking forward to the 2004 race season.  Be a man and take care of this before you show up at the track.

This is all the information that I will put out regarding the situation, so don't worry, I won't say who you are or what happened.  I ask that those who know of this do the same.  

What I do ask is that you make it right or don't show up at the track, or you may be hearing this question shouted out across the paddock.  "Hey, did you....."  


Dawn
Title: Re: I just need to get this off my chest...
Post by: Super Dave on March 26, 2004, 04:38:43 PM
Try selling stuff to racers...and sell more of it.

I'm left waiting months for payments from trusted friends.  It happens.  

I feel for you.

Hopefully, the person will recognize their responsibility, and see that it puts you into a bind that is not yours...but theirs.

If you need help motivating the person, don't hesitate to come to us for thoughts.
Title: Re: I just need to get this off my chest...
Post by: nfcracin on March 26, 2004, 05:02:56 PM
 :o :o :o
 OH NO
 This reminds me of some one.
 Me :-[ :-[ :-[
 Dave I am writting the check now.

 
Lonny
Title: Re: I just need to get this off my chest...
Post by: Super Dave on March 27, 2004, 02:45:31 AM
LOL!   ;D

I wasn't directing this at you.

I've got lots of issues... ;D ;D
Title: Re: I just need to get this off my chest...
Post by: 251am on March 27, 2004, 02:53:30 AM
 Dawn, that's a real bummer. Sorry to hear it.  
Title: Re: I just need to get this off my chest...
Post by: Thorny on March 27, 2004, 03:02:20 AM
There are more racers that are ready to screw you then there are that will make things right. Heck, allot of them will change the agreement and then say they made it right.
 Since 1999 I have gotten ripped off, people have owed me money, and some guys have even borrowed parts and haven't said hey or ney when I am standing right in there pit, as a matter of fact they basically have turned it into a situation where I guess they figured I owe them and so forth it was all squared away.
 I have been owed up to a full year by riders that had a #1 plate and had no entry fees for the season and strill didn't try to make good. If you think all guys are like Dave Rosno, you wrong, but they should be. Dave taught me something along time ago, be who you want to be known as. If you want to be the guy who borrows something and wrecks it, and doesn't pay for it or replace it be that person but take notice, racing is a small family. Everyone will know what person you are. I choose to be the guy who squares away my debts.
Title: Re: I just need to get this off my chest...
Post by: Super Dave on March 27, 2004, 03:08:52 AM
No good deed goes unpunished.[/i]   LOL!
Title: Re: I just need to get this off my chest...
Post by: dwilson on March 27, 2004, 04:18:40 AM
QuoteThere are more racers that are ready to screw you then there are that will make things right.

It doesn't have anything to do with racers specifically, people in general are often purely self serving.  Like Dave said
QuoteNo good deed goes unpunished.

I'm active in the local BMW community and sold a doctor an engine.  He paid by check, well he's a doctor and a BMW owner so I accepted it...  bounced...  He eventually made good on it but was still a PITA.  
Title: Re: I just need to get this off my chest...
Post by: EM JAY on March 27, 2004, 04:30:07 AM
 I may have to add soon......still giving the benifit of the doubt tho...for a few more days.  You know who you are also, let's make this right.
Title: Re: I just need to get this off my chest...
Post by: smoke on March 27, 2004, 05:11:20 AM
I'm sorry this situation is out there again.  It seems as if we all get screwed over at some point in time but for me it happens weekly.  I first thought it was an area issue ( people in dc, MD, VA area) screw you over  for there on benafit.  
 But I was proved wrong by Bernnie. ( thank You)

I had tools walk, my good tools swaped for striped ones, my garage left a mess way too may times, fined $300 by my home owners assoc for loudness, my b-day shot to hell because someone else wanted to work on there bike. way more than that has happend but  all I need is a thank u and I'm sorry to make my day.

I still go out of my way to help people out. Thats just me!  But Dave, dawn, thorny & nocents we are the same.  We get screwed over and still continue to help others.

Thanks  Super Dave !..  I know you did not need to set up a race school and drive all the way out here soon  ;D to work with us on the track. You could have spent the time with your family. Thanks for making the trip in advance and i do understand and realize you made personal sacrafices to help me ( a stranger to you) out.  Thanks sorry my spelling sucks


Mel
Title: Re: I just need to get this off my chest...
Post by: EM JAY on March 27, 2004, 05:39:56 AM
  Hey Smoke, your right, my situation may not be as bad as it sounds, but hasn't been looking up since I haven't been in contact with my guy.  Anyway, it's good that we all keep on helping each other out as much as we can, like has been mentioned were all family, just think that if once we got screwed in a deal and said forget it, I'm not helping ever again or trusting anyone else, I don't think anyone would be left trusting or helping anyone?   WE take care of our own and need to keep doing so.     ;)
Title: Re: I just need to get this off my chest...
Post by: Nate R on March 27, 2004, 06:40:16 AM
 >:( :(  

That just sux. I haven't yet been burned in an internet deal or at the track, yet.

I hope this gets resolved, and everything REALLY made right.  :)

Title: Re: I just need to get this off my chest...
Post by: 251am on March 27, 2004, 07:38:29 AM
Yikes, I guess it makes more and more sense to lock everything up tight while bike, crew, and myself are on the track? Or am I overreacting?
Title: Re: I just need to get this off my chest...
Post by: Dawn on March 27, 2004, 07:47:21 AM
QuoteYikes, I guess it makes more and more sense to lock everything up tight while bike, crew, and myself are on the track? Or am I overreacting?


You are over-reacting.....    :)

In the MW, you will not find a nicer bunch of people at the track, anywhere (OK, perhaps I'm a bit biased).  Everyone watches out for everyone else while there.  Sure, once and a while, something or someone doesn't have the same standards as everyone else does, but fortunately, those individuals are few and far between.  

Is it April 23rd yet....?    :-/   ;D

Dawn   :)
Title: Re: I just need to get this off my chest...
Post by: sanee on March 27, 2004, 10:09:57 AM
same here
fellow racer owes me money (4-5 months now)
recently called the person up to see what the fuks up
still waiting
bunch of bullshit
Title: Re: I just need to get this off my chest...
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on March 27, 2004, 10:12:58 AM
Well, from the embarrassingly steady flow of compliments I have recieved on this board over the last few years, I guess that I'm thought of as a pretty nice guy, and always willing to help anyone.  But like Thorny said, "be who you want to be known as."
Last year was tough for me.  I broke or crashed pretty much everything I touched.  People loaned me their bikes, parts, cash, you name it.  I came out the far side owing all sorts of money to a bunch of my friends.  It took all winter and what would have been my 2004 racing budget to get everybody paid, but the only debt I can think of now is that I owe Oldguy $20, and I probably won't see him until Wegman weekend.
I'm known for helping new guys when they first show up.  You can blame Don DeChant for that.  He became my new best friend on the day I started racing.  He didn't have to do that, but he volunteered himself for the job.  I owe what success I have had to Don and others for the help they have given me.  That is a karmic debt that cannot be repaid, so I try to pass on the same kind of help to newcomers.  Karma, man.  Good or bad.  Everyone makes a choice!
Title: Re: I just need to get this off my chest...
Post by: Bernie on March 27, 2004, 06:30:56 PM
Shucks.  I am pleased to say that I have met some of the nicest and most trustworthy people I have ever known at the racetrack. :)
Title: Re: I just need to get this off my chest...
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on March 27, 2004, 10:33:24 PM
Hey Bernie!  I love that line about Elvis in turn one!
Title: Re: I just need to get this off my chest...[/iu]
Post by: Super Dave on March 28, 2004, 03:45:21 AM
And this is good too...

Hours to build, seconds to destroy...

I will agree with Bernie...do meet good people at the track.  That's part of the addiction of racing.

Title: Re: I just need to get this off my chest...
Post by: Bernie on March 28, 2004, 07:18:27 PM
QuoteHey Bernie!  I love that line about Elvis in turn one!

I swear I saw him once at Roebling. ;D