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Title: bhf times
Post by: RailingZX6R on September 09, 2002, 01:44:45 PM
Hey guys
Was wondering what is considered a fast time at Black Hawk Farms on a 600?  I've done a couple of track days and was thinking of racing sometime soon.  I feel really fast there just was wondering if I'd be completive?  Any Help would be nice.


Thanx
Title: Re: bhf times
Post by: Dawn on September 09, 2002, 01:47:18 PM
Ike:

What times are you turning on your 600?

Dawn
Title: Re: bhf times
Post by: casper on September 09, 2002, 02:40:00 PM
well a good time for someone just starting out would be like in the 1:25 to the 1:28
Title: Re: bhf times
Post by: RailingZX6R on September 09, 2002, 02:47:52 PM
Thanks man,

Then what are the fastest ams running?  
Title: Re: bhf times
Post by: Numbskullz113 on September 09, 2002, 02:52:13 PM
I think the top amateurs on 600's are running 16's and 17's

Top experts run high 13 - low 14's
Title: Re: bhf times
Post by: am125ike on September 09, 2002, 03:38:37 PM
QuoteIke:

What times are you turning on your 600?

Dawn


heeey dawn.......
im down to the mid 18's,      
i started out somewhere in the 24's or 26's back in april/may........
 
Title: Re: bhf times
Post by: Dawn on September 09, 2002, 03:42:57 PM
Cool...

That one race where to took first you were just fly'n

Dawn   :)
Title: Re: bhf times
Post by: am125ike on September 09, 2002, 04:17:28 PM
QuoteCool...

That one race where to took first you were just fly'n

Dawn   :)


thnx dawn,
i dont know what happen to those guy's....
from the start, it seemed like they were all asleep, from the third row, from behind what woulda been the poll sitter (who was absent for some reason or another) she threw out the green and i got a great start (i say this, cuz no one was on the side of me, seems like they never left the line, i was in turn 1 from row 3, all alone) and i never looked back (literaly) my crew said there was a nice gap when i came thru 4 and 5, i know i had lost confidence from a couple of falls, and it was coming back, but i wasnt having the focus on the line either, so thats what was on my mind, my confidence was back, and i was only planning on finishing this race the best i could,..... and there you go, i got my first 1st place  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
of course mike227 wasnt in full agreement with that, he showed me his wheel thrice, two at the bus stop, and once at 6, my eyes were on the race line, until we approached the checkered, we coulda been "slappin" each other "hi-fives" we were so close, realy exciting! my first win came by less than a foot.
i would brag, and say YEAH, I'M FAST...THATS RITE, THATS RITE !!!!
but even tho im faster than i was, its not a 13/14, im still looking for low 18's or even high 17's........but it was a good weekend, 3 top fives, is a first also...

this sh1t is fun!!!

oh yeah, thanks again CCS for making it happen! FORMULA USA is da sheeeiiiiznit   8) ;D ;D ;D ;D 8)
Title: Re: bhf times
Post by: sdiver68 on September 09, 2002, 06:47:40 PM
Congrats Mike on the win

darn you Chicago/Milwaukee guys who do BHF like 10 times per year, I show up and struggle :(  

So, ya coming to Gateway the next 2 races ?  ;D

Title: Re: bhf times
Post by: KBOlsen on September 09, 2002, 07:00:46 PM
Wooohooo!!! Ike, you were ROCKIN'!  Congratulations - and it was nice to meet ya too!

See you next year!
Title: Re: bhf times
Post by: Woofentino Pugrossi on September 09, 2002, 07:10:56 PM
Ike, are you the one that did that spectacular dismount from the trailer Sat? Hows the ankle?

See ya all next year. Kim I'm gunning for you next year. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: bhf times
Post by: yellow flag on September 09, 2002, 08:20:57 PM
I was up there on Sunday just checking out the races.  All I know is that Andy #19 and #966 (I've never seen or heard of him before) were on rails Sunday.  I got a kick out of watching 966 beat Andy in one of the middle weight races.  Finally someone who can run w/ Andy;) :o :o.  I got both of them at high 1:15s in that race both on 600s!!!  Talk about walking away from the pack!!  
So I guess Railingzx6r, if you think you're fast there for an amateur, you better be running 15s  haha. Good luck and maybe see you next year.
Title: Re: bhf times
Post by: sdiver68 on September 09, 2002, 09:23:12 PM
966 would be Dan Ortega, and yes he is fast at BHF, its his first year too!

Title: Re: bhf times
Post by: KBOlsen on September 10, 2002, 06:42:51 AM
DanO is seriously fast... that guy Bill from Ohio who stayed by us was also right up there with Andy, Mike & Co. - and it was his first time at BHF.   :o  

Rob - Catch me if you can!!! ;D
Title: Re: bhf times
Post by: Dawn on September 10, 2002, 06:46:00 AM
Rob940:

It wasn't Ike that dismounted from the trailer, it was Shawn practicing his gymnastic skills.

Dawn   ;)
Title: Re: bhf times
Post by: am125ike on September 10, 2002, 12:02:22 PM
QuoteCongrats Mike on the win
darn you Chicago/Milwaukee guys who do BHF like 10 times per year, I show up and struggle :(  
So, ya coming to Gateway the next 2 races ?  ;D

heeey steve, missed ya this past weekend, ..ok, im joking.
you know you woulda beat me,  but THANKS for the congrats.
 this is only  my 1st year tho, and 6th weekend at bhf, but only my second good one, and i got no wood on the other good one.... i think i wore em down, the fast guy's are alll tired of winning, but they woke up after my sunday morning folly..  ;D   oh, we'll see you 10/5 in st. louiy, i didnt race there the sunday after LCR (ricky b.) on saturday 3/23....this will be my 1st race there, you gonna school me? or just leave me like usual...

THANX KBOlsen, you are not as easy to pass as a lil while back ;D .....im watchin YOU too...and yes, you too are from the gearheadthread (which = COOL) and jon too, 17 harley's ???  i think we can see you at gingerman! was realy nice meeting you, and my brother confirmed exactly what i was thinking when you stepped away, you have a very genuine smile (unless you're just that good at fakin it (the smile ;D)

yeah rob, my teammate, sean wyatt did the ballet routine for the croud, and you better get ready, kim is gettin much faster!!! i'll be watchin tho....

thanks guys
Title: Re: bhf times
Post by: Woofentino Pugrossi on September 10, 2002, 08:14:22 PM
Quoteyeah rob, my teammate, sean wyatt did the ballet routine for the croud, and you better get ready, kim is gettin much faster!!! i'll be watchin tho....


I'm bad with names anyways.  ;D

And as for Kim and her TLR. Shes lucky I only got to race the last 2 BHF events. If I had insurance form teh start of the year, I would had been faster than her. ;D ;D

Mental note, make sure I work the corners for her races. ;D
Title: Re: bhf times
Post by: KBOlsen on September 10, 2002, 08:54:55 PM
Awww, Ooompa Loompa... I've got it on good authority that you'll be working the FRONT GATE next year, so you might as well come race.  What the heck, I turn better lap times when I know you're behind me.  Just to make it worthwhile, I propose the loser pays the winner's entry fee. ;D
Title: Re: bhf times
Post by: sdiver68 on September 11, 2002, 05:59:48 AM
Hey Ike,

Us 1st year guys gotta stick together, ya know?  A win is a win is a win, and you beat Michael by a wheel as opposed to me losing to him by a wheel last time in MWGP.  Great job!  ;D

And based on how lap times seems to have come down at BHF even from 2 weeks prior, where 17's put someone in the lead, I would have been lucky to keep you in guys in sight!

Anyway, wondered what your (and everyones) thoughts are on turning expert next year?  Should a 1st year person get a chance to contend for a championship the next year (someone who did not do several races per region and therefore missed out on points) OR should it be based on placements when he/she (hi Kim) does show up ???
 




Title: Re: bhf times
Post by: ike125 on September 11, 2002, 10:06:35 AM
QuoteHey Ike,
Us 1st year guys gotta stick together, ya know?  A win is a win is a win, and you beat Michael by a wheel as opposed to me losing to him by a wheel last time in MWGP.  Great job!  ;D
And based on how lap times seems to have come down at BHF even from 2 weeks prior, where 17's put someone in the lead, I would have been lucky to keep you in guys in sight!
Anyway, wondered what your (and everyones) thoughts are on turning expert next year?  Should a 1st year person get a chance to contend for a championship the next year (someone who did not do several races per region and therefore missed out on points) OR should it be based on placements when he/she (hi Kim) does show up ???

  well steve,
first, you're correct in the win is a win, mike couldnt draft me, cuz i bobbled turn seven so, that he had to get on the side of me, but the split second that i got back on the throttle was the difference at the checkered, had i done it rite, he'd of drafted me and prob won by a bike ;D  oh well, i'll take it  ;D ;D ;D

but as far as going expert next year,........
   i think that it should be up to the individual feeling safe and or good about it, everyone seems to stay back the extra year to feel competitive, i like the option, and i'd like to have a good amatuer year b4 going expert, i'll say it, the money spent this year along with the learning process (for me) would feel much better with another am year, rather than learning what i wish i knew in march waaaay later, and then trying to compete with kevin/chris and tez (and the rest of the top 10 experts) ..... i feel fairly fast, and confident, but hell, i aint seen andy firestarter in a race all year :-[  and the only reason mike was behind me was the grid, and the people he had to get by, i held it, but im not consistant enough to catch and pass them, i want more experience, we're fast, but i guess like fastasskevin124 said, since everyone else sandbags, why take a chance at top 10 when you have a better chance at top 5 or even 3.... did i mention money???