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Title: Is Double Bubble Windsheild Legal for Supersport?
Post by: xlr8tn on February 19, 2004, 03:58:51 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Is Double Bubble Windsheild Legal for Superspo
Post by: motodirty on February 19, 2004, 04:02:03 PM
Brent It doesn't matter what kind of windscreen you have  :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Is Double Bubble Windsheild Legal for Superspo
Post by: stumpy on February 19, 2004, 04:43:56 PM
 It does say streamlining is not legal, but in that case a speed hump on the leathers would be illegal too :-/ Haven't heard of any problems though.


Stumpy
Title: Re: Is Double Bubble Windsheild Legal for Superspo
Post by: Jeff on February 19, 2004, 04:48:16 PM
Yes, it's legal, yes tinted screens are legal...
Title: Re: Is Double Bubble Windsheild Legal for Superspo
Post by: Nate R on February 19, 2004, 05:04:08 PM
streamlining on the RIDER isn't legal.  :D

It's not a speed hump, it's for safety.  ;)
Title: Re: Is Double Bubble Windsheild Legal for Superspo
Post by: r6_philly on February 19, 2004, 06:24:48 PM
double bubble is NOT legal in WERA superstock (new rule for 04) becuase it does not follow OEM bodywork shape. It is said to offer an aero advantage.

I am not sure the CCS ruling though. maybe something that rest with the head tech.
Title: Re: Is Double Bubble Windsheild Legal for Superspo
Post by: EX#996 on February 19, 2004, 06:27:34 PM
In the MW we ran it last year with no problems.

Dawn   :)
Title: Re: Is Double Bubble Windsheild Legal for Superspo
Post by: quicktoy on February 19, 2004, 06:27:44 PM
In CCS, that would fall under "THE NO WHINING CLAUSE" if someone protested based on that
Title: Re: Is Double Bubble Windsheild Legal for Superspo
Post by: r6_philly on February 19, 2004, 06:46:26 PM
interesting, in CCS Supersport, "any bodywork may be used".

in FUSA Sportbike:
"Any fairing may be used provided it is made of plastic, fiberglass or carbon fiber and it follows the shape and
silhouette of the OEM bodywork."

that may be questionable.
Title: Re: Is Double Bubble Windsheild Legal for Superspo
Post by: Super Dave on February 20, 2004, 07:39:26 AM
Your mileage my vary.

Terms and conditions apply.


Last year for most of the early part of the season, I was using a special prototype screen that I made.  It had a lot less frontal area on it, so I think it increased my speeds.
Title: Re: Is Double Bubble Windsheild Legal for Superspo
Post by: stumpy on February 20, 2004, 09:17:18 AM
 ;D ;D Dave your gonna be a millionaire after making windscreens and straightening frames!! ;)
Hard on the body though hey?

Stumpy
Title: Re: Is Double Bubble Windsheild Legal for Superspo
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on February 20, 2004, 09:20:02 AM
QuoteLast year for most of the early part of the season, I was using a special prototype screen that I made.  It had a lot less frontal area on it, so I think it increased my speeds.
HEY!  Who filed the sharp edges off that screen?  ME!!!  That was MY design! ;)
Title: Re: Is Double Bubble Windsheild Legal for Superspo
Post by: Lowe119 on February 20, 2004, 09:20:47 AM
I saw somewhere in the CCS rulebook the same:
"Any fairing may be used provided it is made of plastic, fiberglass or carbon fiber and it follows the shape and silhouette of the OEM bodywork."

So we can or cannot use aramid fibers (Kevlar)?
Title: Re: Is Double Bubble Windsheild Legal for Superspo
Post by: Mongo on February 20, 2004, 09:51:13 AM
Quotedouble bubble is NOT legal in WERA superstock (new rule for 04) becuase it does not follow OEM bodywork shape. It is said to offer an aero advantage.

I am not sure the CCS ruling though. maybe something that rest with the head tech.


Not new, they've never been legal for our stuff or AMA.
Title: Re: Is Double Bubble Windsheild Legal for Superspo
Post by: motobenco on February 20, 2004, 10:23:31 AM
Legal or not. did everyone forget who sponsers the CCS series and what product makes up a large portion of their sales?
Title: Re: Is Double Bubble Windsheild Legal for Superspo
Post by: Steviebee on February 20, 2004, 10:29:51 AM
um.. the racers are currently sponsoring CCS

And i thought everyone bought thier windscreens off ebay from squids that bought tinted ones.

heheh
Title: Re: Is Double Bubble Windsheild Legal for Superspo
Post by: Dawn on February 20, 2004, 10:35:51 AM
QuoteNot new, they've never been legal for our stuff or AMA.


 Curious....

How does WERA address the SV650-S and the standard SV?  The S model only has the upper fairing and the standard none at all.  However, most SV's racing have full upper and lower fairings.  Since that is not OEM, according to the rules, that wouldn't be legal.

Dawn  (confused again ???)    ;)
Title: Re: Is Double Bubble Windsheild Legal for Superspo
Post by: Lowe119 on February 20, 2004, 11:26:50 AM
QuoteNot new, they've never been legal for our stuff or AMA.

The tech guys told me it doesn't matter what kind of windshield we use.

As far as the SV650 - There is something in the rules that state something like "Unless required to meet standards such as belly pan." or something...
Title: Re: Is Double Bubble Windsheild Legal for Superspo
Post by: Zac on February 20, 2004, 12:04:28 PM
QuoteI saw somewhere in the CCS rulebook the same:
"Any fairing may be used provided it is made of plastic, fiberglass or carbon fiber and it follows the shape and silhouette of the OEM bodywork."

So we can or cannot use aramid fibers (Kevlar)?

Being that aramid fibers are classified as a polymer, you could argue it's just a composite of plastic fibers (arimid) in plastic resin (epoxy).  

Remember: a "space age ploymer" is a plastic developed in the '60s  ;D

-z.
Title: Re: Is Double Bubble Windsheild Legal for Superspo
Post by: Woofentino Pugrossi on February 20, 2004, 02:28:01 PM
OK what about the guy who had R6 plastic on his EX500 at BHF a couple years ago? So what are they gonna say when my YZF comes out with R7 plastic since, ironically, I found its cheaper and easier to find than YZF750 race glass. Or the R1's with the R7 glass?
Title: Re: Is Double Bubble Windsheild Legal for Superspo
Post by: Nate R on February 20, 2004, 03:08:04 PM
Rob, calm down. FUSA requires stock looking bodywork. Not CCS.


Dawn, in WERA, I believe any bodywork is OK on teh SV, but ONLY on teh SV.