This from RoadracingWorld this morning.
QuoteCopyright 2004, Roadracing World Publishing, Inc.
By Lisa Theobald
Geoff May broke the lap record at Homestead-Miami Speedway during the Unlimited Grand Prix race at the 2004-season-opening CCS Florida event Sunday. May ran his fastest lap heading for the white flag, his time of 1:26.56 almost a second faster than the record set by Marco Martinez last December. And with a maneuver reminiscent of teammate Michael Barnes, May rode his Prieto Racing prepared GSX-R1000 across the finish line in a stand-up wheelie with a lap time of 1:27.99. Later, he explained that he "had to show everybody that I know how to do a wheelie."
:-/ I hope if he abides by the CCS rules he was fined or either another case of FL region doing what they want to :-/
we were warned about wheelies in riders meetings in the past.. however.. we were given some discresion (well i wasnt as i suck).. but if your winning, and looking behind there is no one, if memory serves we were given an ok. We were warned about cool down laps, warm up laps, crossing finish line back in the pack.. your just endangering other riders.
May had a large lead, looked behind.. broke the lap record (with the cones removed off the back section resulting in more speed, but hey..).. hard to fault the guy.
yes.. we can get fined..
I have seen Alex F. doing wheelies repeatedly as he pulls onto the track for the warmup lap at Jennings. Truly unsafe and stupid. No one said a thing to him or mentioned wheelies at the riders meeting, they pretty much do what they want Trey. :o
Ya its fun doing what we want!!!! ;D
Welcome to DeGouw-ville, Trey...
::)
R
fairly sure some fines were handed out at Moroso mid season last year...
I think Geoffs wheelie was awesome. What pissed me off was the idiot doing a wheelie down the hot pits on his way to a stop a go penalty after he got the meatball flag...that was just stupid....
So all you complainers out there, complain about that type of stuff and not about another florida guy breaking another record in style.....Jealousy is a terrible trait...... :P
QuoteI think Geoffs wheelie was awesome. What pissed me off was the idiot doing a wheelie down the hot pits on his way to a stop a go penalty after he got the meatball flag...that was just stupid....
So all you complainers out there, complain about that type of stuff and not about another florida guy breaking another record in style.....Jealousy is a terrible trait...... :P
If it violates the rules, it violates the rules, doesnt matter if he broke the track record on not. Jealousy has nothing to do with it, Safety of yourself and others around you has plenty to do with our posts. Trey could care less if the guy broke the track record, correct me if im wrong Trey. Also when one person feels its alright to wheelie if he happens to break a track record, then the other idiots that are watching think its OK to wheelie whenever they want too. Make more sense now??
QuoteIf it violates the rules, it violates the rules, doesnt matter if he broke the track record on not. Jealousy has nothing to do with it, Safety of yourself and others around you has plenty to do with our posts. Trey could care less if the guy broke the track record, correct me if im wrong Trey. Also when one person feels its alright to wheelie if he happens to break a track record, then the other idiots that are watching think its OK to wheelie whenever they want too. Make more sense now??
rules are rules but "some discression" can be applied! Geoff had a pretty big lead and did look back.. Mike Smith did a wheelie across start finish at Jennings last year in a race and pretty sure that was a combined se/Fl race..
i agree with the rule, but some discression and common scence can be used to still have fun and everyone will still be safe...
Quoterules are rules but "some discression" can be applied! Geoff had a pretty big lead and did look back.. Mike Smith did a wheelie across start finish at Jennings last year in a race and pretty sure that was a combined se/Fl race..
i agree with the rule, but some discression and common scence can be used to still have fun and everyone will still be safe...
Well lets get the rule changed to read, "If you look back, if you are Alex F., there is no one around, you just broke the track record, you are Mike S., if you use some discression, you just want to have some fun, wheelies are OK." Even if you pull a wheelie at a track day they will kick you compleatly off the property. Its just everytime I go to a SE/Fla race at Jennings its really crazy down there. I was passed twice in two different races by guys cutting across corners in the grass, they did it on purpose, I thought to myself if they want it that bad they can have it! :o Real aggressive stuffing people and banging bars, wheelies everytime Alex F. pulled onto the track. Some guy falling on the front straight then trying to push his bike across the race line causing a massive pileup;D When I go down to SE/Fla races I just try to survive and get my SE points. Me and Trey have talked about this, we both hate going down there because of all this stuff. Maybe Im just getting too old for you super aggressive Fla boys, I have to go to work on Monday. Im off this subject, Ive said enough.
Ditto
QuoteWell lets get the rule changed to read, "If you look back, if you are Alex F., there is no one around, you just broke the track record, you are Mike S., if you use some discression, you just want to have some fun, wheelies are OK." Even if you pull a wheelie at a track day they will kick you compleatly off the property. Its just everytime I go to a SE/Fla race at Jennings its really crazy down there. I was passed twice in two different races by guys cutting across corners in the grass, they did it on purpose, I thought to myself if they want it that bad they can have it! :o Real aggressive stuffing people and banging bars, wheelies everytime Alex F. pulled onto the track. Some guy falling on the front straight then trying to push his bike across the race line causing a massive pileup;D When I go down to SE/Fla races I just try to survive and get my SE points. Me and Trey have talked about this, we both hate going down there because of all this stuff. Maybe Im just getting too old for you super aggressive Fla boys, I have to go to work on Monday. Im off this subject, Ive said enough.
not to get off topic but how is it that simply being in FL makes us "super agressive" ? I can't imagine with thousands of riders in 8 regions across the country, FL has "the most agressive riders"... I have been to jennings perhaps more than any rider (literally).. and i have yet to see time made up by going through the grass - unless you mean by cutting out turn 8 on the back section all together ..
If you have ever listened to Henry at a riders meeting you would have heard "No wheelies on the red flag, warm up lap, or pit lane. If you win a race maybe you can do a wheelie but thats about it." I think the AMA rookie or the year, Geoff May and Barney can do a wheelie with out hurting any one. Hell they go into turn one at homestead at over 160 miles an hour. Its cool to see great talent putting it on for people. James "red-sv" quit your whinning. If you don't like it stay up north. As far as your beef with Alex F get over it he won 4 regional and 5 national titles as an ameuter and 4 regional titles as an expert and the #2 plate in the florida region + if you read 2wf is a graduate of the Keith Codes wheelie school so just shut up with your Florida Region riders are to agressive crap. Oh ya we did win like 21 of 49 races at the ROC. Before you say anything else we don't ride Daytona anymore than any other region either.
atta boy mikey. you tell em. hey hows its hanging mm. from the old man REC
"Chronic complainers" and "whiners"! That's what I call guys like "Trey Bone Head", Richard Sczensniak and James-redsv! "Sour grapes" and just plain jealousy also fit these "clowns" like a fine Italian shoe!
HD
ata boy henry. card sys hi.
Next thing they'll be whinning about is the heavy use of astroglide on friday nights, Right booby
so if I have been stuntn' for most of my riding life, am I allow to wheelie? I can garantee I wont endanger anyone. I am serious. Is flex in the rule book? If I actually went and competed in an XSBA event would that be proof enough? I was surprised to read that as well, although I don't have any intend to complain.
So if I win a race I can wheelie as long as it is safe to do so? I absolutely knows when to do something like that and when not to.
BOOBIE!!!!! good to hear from ya man....
maybe your right james and trey....maybe you guys shouldnt come down here anymore...not like you were ever gonna be anymore than a backmarker to us fl. boys anyway...I would hate to see you miss work on Monday because someone of Geoffs (or Barney, Mmills, Alex f.,Scuba Steve, or Jim P.) talent do a wheelie while their almost a full lap in front of you in a 6 lap sprint race.. Its a sad, sad, sad world in my eyes when those who CANT do, complain about those who CAN and DO. 8)
Ill be a glidin home tonight mm. jenkins as in jay?
Ok, Ok, you guys have convinced me its fine to do wheelies as long as its safe down in Fla. Cool, open season for wheelies!!! Im really just jealious of anyone that can do it, so as of tonight im doing nothing but wheelies so I can be the very best on the whole east coast, not just Fla. If im doing them and its a safe situation nobody better say a thing, Henry better not start whinning about me doing too many either because he aint no whinner, right Henry. He doesnt even mention it at the riders meeting. So in closing Im not coming down there to beat any of you guys, you are all too fast for me. Im just gonna be the best darn wheelie expert in all of Fla. Then, when I come in last place during a 6 lap sprint race Im gonna show everybody how good I really am by doing a loser lap on my rear tire only. That will show you overly aggressive Fla boys whos the real boss is. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Oh yea I learn quick too, im going to start passing through the grass and T-bone anyone on the other side, ask Trey, I left tire marks all over his new Pipe at VIR, ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Do a wheelie in last place and you will get fined!!!!! Sh*t I win alot of races and I don't do wheelies because I suck and I'm fat. But I only give guys like May the respect they desire on the track and applaud them for their abitiies on the track and VICTORY LAP. Really James your pitty party is getting old. You are totally missing the point.
sarcasm!!! that was funny james....haha ???
maybe if you spend as much time practicing as you do complaining you would be the one wheelieing across the line, instead of playing Patty Cakes in the back with trey....
no boobie...not jay....C.W.
I do think we race and being aggresive is a part of racing if you are to afraid james i think you need to stick with track days!!! I hope you dont plan on riding jennings again I am a very aggressive rider and i wouldnt want to scare you then again i probably already did you were probably one of the backmarker experts us Ams caught last year and we ended up stuffin!! Im so glad i wont have to worry about you in my way again!! Oh well im out tired of hearing people whine about being aggresive if you dont like it go to the MALL or race NASCAR they always whine about aggresivness
so nobody answered my question >:( is it ok to wheelie if I am good at it?
a rule should be a rule, loose interpretation is NO GOOD. Even you allow or disallow. If you want to judge by wheeling abilities then the last place guy should be able to do one if he is good at doing it.
so what is the rule?
R6 philly, I'll tell ya what, when you and your like minded buddies get good enough to sniff Geoff May's jock strap, I'll answer your stupid question. Get a life!
HD
Quoteso nobody answered my question >:( is it ok to wheelie if I am good at it?
a rule should be a rule, loose interpretation is NO GOOD. Even you allow or disallow. If you want to judge by wheeling abilities then the last place guy should be able to do one if he is good at doing it.
so what is the rule?
This is getting too stupid, they cant even anwser the question without a bunch of Jock sniff jokes. Yes it is a rule that is not enforced in the Fla region, bottom line, no more BS.
QuoteR6 philly, I'll tell ya what, when you and your like minded buddies get good enough to sniff Geoff May's jock strap, I'll answer your stupid question. Get a life!
HD
henry, I am not complaining, I just want a rule interpretation. Is wheelying allowed or not? Since you are the director of the FL region, I just want to know. We were always told that it is expressively prohibited in the Mid-A and everyone will be fined.
I don't really care for what the other guys said. They were saying that Geoff should be allowed to do so because he is good at doing it.
At which point did I complain or bad mouth the FL region, or you? At which point did my question warrant an unprofessional answer? I just wanted an answer to whether it is a rule or not ??? since you are the guy who runs CCS FL, who else am I going to ask? Why is it a stupid question? When was I arguing with anyone with it? how is it stupid?
"get a life"?
Henry, I do have a life. It is revolved around racing. Or I wouldn't be here on a Friday night on a racing board. What do you suggest me get a life doing?
I am not like-minded with redsv. I am not siding with him. I did not defend him. I had a question regarding rules. When did that become stupid?
So if I ask you whether I can run velocity stacks in SS you are going to tell me to get a life?
Please, not here to argue, no need to get all huffy about it
and as for sniffing Geoff's jock strap... since we are talking about wheeling, not racing. (well I wasn't). Geoff is welcome ANYDAY in a wheeling contest. Tell you what, I will compete on my GS500 and whip his ass doing wheelies
Quote I do think we race and being aggresive is a part of racing if you are to afraid james i think you need to stick with track days!!! I hope you dont plan on riding jennings again I am a very aggressive rider and i wouldnt want to scare you then again i probably already did you were probably one of the backmarker experts us Ams caught last year and we ended up stuffin!! Im so glad i wont have to worry about you in my way again!! Oh well im out tired of hearing people whine about being aggresive if you dont like it go to the MALL or race NASCAR they always whine about aggresivness
Controled aggression is great and welcome, out of control aggression is unsafe and dangerous. I should have stated that to begin with. No, I was an AM last year just like you Steve, and no you didnt lap me.
sounds like the same rule we have up in LRRS--no wheelies with the unwritten portion stating that if you have certain last names the rule no longer applies
Quotehenry, I am not complaining, I just want a rule interpretation. Is wheelying allowed or not? Since you are the director of the FL region, I just want to know. We were always told that it is expressively prohibited in the Mid-A and everyone will be fined.
I don't really care for what the other guys said. They were saying that Geoff should be allowed to do so because he is good at doing it.
At which point did I complain or bad mouth the FL region, or you? At which point did my question warrant an unprofessional answer? I just wanted an answer to whether it is a rule or not ??? since you are the guy who runs CCS FL, who else am I going to ask? Why is it a stupid question? When was I arguing with anyone with it? how is it stupid?
"get a life"?
Henry, I do have a life. It is revolved around racing. Or I wouldn't be here on a Friday night on a racing board. What do you suggest me get a life doing?
I am not like-minded with redsv. I am not siding with him. I did not defend him. I had a question regarding rules. When did that become stupid?
So if I ask you whether I can run velocity stacks in SS you are going to tell me to get a life?
Please, not here to argue, no need to get all huffy about it
So why dont you want to side with me, thats what I want too, is an interpertation of the rule which they cant seem to do??
QuoteSo why dont you want to side with me, thats what I want too, is an interpertation of the rule which they cant seem to do??
well I posted because I had that question when I was reading my RRW. So I just posted without agreeing with you or not.
and I wouldn't have any opion on rough riding at Jennings or anything when it comes to that.
I just hate to see rules not being enforced.
Either its a rule, or its not. Enforce it, or don't.
And I still don't understand how is MY question stupid?
Sorry, I don't like it when my race directory/head referree tell me "I will answer your question when you are fast enough" or tell me to get a life if I want to know about a rule.
I like doing wheelies. I have been since I started riding. That was over 5 years ago. I do at least 50-100 wheelies on every given riding day. I just want to know the rule. Why is that so stupid?
I wasn't a slow amatuer, and I am not going to be a slow Expert for long. so when I am fast, does that mean I get to do whatever I want? great attitude to be showing new racers.
and a race directory telling a racer to shut up because he is not as fast as the track record.... wow...
damn I have no rights cuz I can't run with Geoff May
R6 I think I can answer your question. If you win the race it OK not encouraged to wheelie. Henry doesn't want to take the fun out of enjoying the WIN. They just don't want guys in the back of the field doing wheelies when ever during the race for kicks thats the point of the rule. I know it may not be totally fare but I wouldn't want to be at race pace and some backmarker I'm lapping doing wheelies because he getting his ass kicked and is bored. The guy smoking everyboby will get away with alittle bit because he desevere it. Look at Rossi.
Geoff actually isn't that good at wheelies, SORRY GEOFF, although that was a good one. He did it because we all said he couldn't. That was the joke in road racing world. He won the race by 10-15 seconds, set a lap record, and won $600. He was celebrating
The point is the "win" not the "wheelie" as james tried to make it.
ok, thats the kind of explaination I was asking for? I really didn't make a big deal did I, just had a question, couldn't have henry answered it without the big fuss?
all he had to say was "win and you can do one" if you don't win then don't show off.
perfectly understandable. no need to attack a fellow racer and call people slow.
I think you just were an innocent bistander. Don't take it personally. Henry, get attacked with all kinds of BS. You would not believe the crap he get nailed with. Glad I could help alittle. But I'm one of thos overly agressive florida riders, as James SV puts it >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
unless you run people off the track, you are not overly aggressive.
but then again truly fast racers don't have to be overly aggressive, you can beat others without being overly aggressive :P
Nan, I just get run off by guys I sell go-fast parts
to. But thats a whole other story........
MAZEL TOV'......... ;D
Do people really have just nothing else better to bitch about then someone celebrating a fricken victory with a damn wheelie???? Big F'ing deal
"Philly", you just got caught in the "crossfire" and I apologize to you for that. "Quicktoy", you got it right.
HD
I did a wheelie on my victory lap and didnt get yelled at and im not a Geoff May!! It was my first expert win on my first expert weekend so i did one with only my teammate Mills next to me! I also looked back to make sure nobody else was around!
Quoteunless you run people off the track, you are not overly aggressive.
but then again truly fast racers don't have to be overly aggressive, you can beat others without being overly aggressive :P
Gotta disagree here might have worked in the Am class but not in the expert class. :P
Ya that was COOL, I was jealous about the wheelie and prood for you about the win
Thanks Mills ;D James you coming to jennings this Year??????
Quoteask Trey, I left tire marks all over his new Pipe at VIR,
I knew you were coming under there (or someone), I had the line, so I chopped that front end off. It's amazing you held the bike up after that ;D I will race ya hard anytime ;D
QuoteHenry, get attacked with all kinds of BS. You would not believe the crap he get nailed with.
When you make your own rules, and do not adhere to the governing body you represent,,,, you get what you ask for :o
And has for jenkins lapping my slow ass is FL ...... whatever dude.... put a Expert Championship behind you name then talk to me b1tch.
Quote"Chronic complainers" and "whiners"! That's what I call guys like "Trey Bone Head", Richard Sczensniak and James-redsv! "Sour grapes" and just plain jealousy also fit these "clowns" like a fine Italian shoe!
HD
Excuse me Henry!!!!!!! HOW COULD YOU LET THIS HAPPEN,,,,, HOW DARE YOU MENTION MY NAME, ALONG WITH JAMES, SZCZESNIAK (can i buy a vowel), ..... WITHOUT INCLUDING... BADMONKEY ;D
The only word in that statement a liked was "chronic"
LOL :D
Jenkins is responsible for many Florida championships and CCS National Championships incuding a couple of AMA superbike top tens over the last 5 years. He really does know what he's talking about. You guys really are coming off like Whiners
"Trey Bonehead" if you want to include "Monkey Boy" with you and what I call the "lunatic fringe", go ahead! I didn't because he never said anything about this topic. I'm pleased you liked something I said for a change. And hey, I don't mind the BS, you and your "ilk" are fun to play with! ;D
HD
QuoteI did a wheelie on my victory lap and didnt get yelled at and im not a Geoff May!! It was my first expert win on my first expert weekend so i did one with only my teammate Mills next to me! I also looked back to make sure nobody else was around!
Steve can wheelie?? hmmm.. im gonna need some proof on that :)
QuoteJenkins is responsible for many Florida championships and CCS National Championships incuding a couple of AMA superbike top tens over the last 5 years. He really does know what he's talking about. You guys really are coming off like Whiners
OH, that is the jenkins who is talking poop. OK, I give credit where credit is due. He can smoke my ass on the racetrack. :-/ If I would have known that was him, I would just say "up yours" or something creative of the sorts ;D
It just kills me to see everyone get all wound up on these here boards.
Your fun to play with to Henry ;)
QuoteOH, that is the jenkins who is talking poop. OK, I give credit where credit is due. He can smoke my ass on the racetrack. :-/ If I would have known that was him, I would just say "up yours" or something creative of the sorts ;D
It just kills me to see everyone get all wound up on these here boards.
Your fun to play with to Henry ;)
Yea, I like pulling their chain too, I dont have anything better to do since im I home sick with the flu :(