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Title: Firebird Lap times?
Post by: Rawrider on January 26, 2004, 03:57:21 PM
I was wondering what are the fast guys consistently lapping at firebird East? Also where's a good place to eat around there?
Title: Re: Firebird Lap times?
Post by: CCSRACER123CCS on January 26, 2004, 04:18:11 PM
For amateur or expert? I think experts were doing 59's maybe 58's and am's were doing 1:04 at the fastest.
Title: Re: Firebird Lap times?
Post by: cstem on January 26, 2004, 06:26:58 PM
As far as eating and sleeping near the track- there is about 25 restaurants (mostly chains) and 10 hotels within 8 miles of the track.  You should have plenty of options and choices.  I fyou are searching for hotels on the internet, do not use Phoenix as the city, use Chandler instead it will put you closer to the track.  
Title: Re: Firebird Lap times?
Post by: u-hallmhall@schaum on January 27, 2004, 06:19:51 AM
i was doing high 101s and low 102s as a amature which was about 2 seconds off the lap record
Title: Re: Firebird Lap times?
Post by: Team_nuclear123 on January 27, 2004, 08:01:22 AM
Yeah Brian, but you were WAY out ahead of the Am field! LOL

It was great to see you run last year, hope to see you at the track for some nationals this year!

Will
Title: Re: Firebird Lap times?
Post by: CCSRACER123CCS on January 27, 2004, 02:47:30 PM
That's right, I forgot about you Brian, "the amateur". Good luck this year bro!
Title: Re: Firebird Lap times?
Post by: raptorduck952 on February 02, 2004, 01:30:09 PM
My best lap times last year as an amateur were low 1:04's. My teamate Rod Sherman ran into the 1:02's. The fastest expert times I recall were in the low 1:59's by Mark Ledesma.
Title: Re: Firebird Lap times?
Post by: CCSRACER123CCS on February 02, 2004, 05:24:43 PM
HAHAHAHA....
Title: Re: Firebird Lap times?
Post by: u-hallmhall@schaum on February 03, 2004, 05:16:12 AM
i miss arizona
no snow there :-[
Title: Re: Firebird Lap times?
Post by: raptorduck952 on February 04, 2004, 09:26:38 AM
QuoteHAHAHAHA....

Ya takin smak boy?
Title: Re: Firebird Lap times?
Post by: bmgracing on February 04, 2004, 10:15:01 AM
I was waiting for your response Wehrli!  I think he was saying you are full of shit!  It's funny how once we got transponders everyone's record lap times have gone up a little bit.

I'm pretty sure I was running in the 1:03s on my Ducati as an amatuer at the beginning of the season.  Only ran my Suzuki once there (last SW race) and started the weekend doing 1:08s (yikes).  Finally started getting used to the thing by the end of the weekend and got down to a high 1:03.

I think the track might have been a little quicker before they resurfaced it . . . or whatever they did to it.  I think Mark L, Scott J, and Rory were in the 59s at the beginning of the year.  At the last race I think the fastest lap was in the 1:00s.

So Brian doing high 1:01s as an amatuer when the fastest experts were doing 1:00s was damn fast and would have put him pretty high up the expert grid.

Are you racing SW or MW this year Brian?  

What are your plans this year Wehrli?  Gonna see you down here at Firebird in a few weeks?  I'm still running a yellow plate so I guess I'll give you a head start.

  
Title: Re: Firebird Lap times?
Post by: u-hallmhall@schaum on February 04, 2004, 11:53:33 AM
whats up guys, i know my lap times are accurate and i did win a few races overall
i am racing in the midwest region this year but if all goes as planned i will be in Las Vegas for the fusa race in the end of September and race all the ccs races then as well
i  personally didnt think the track was any slower or more slippery, i liked the change but i know alot of people dont agree but thats just my opinion
Title: Re: Firebird Lap times?
Post by: bmgracing on February 04, 2004, 12:33:43 PM
Brian, I would agree I didn't notice it being more slippery or slower either.  I was just noting that I didn't see anyone in the 59s that last SW race . . . which they were doing at earlier events.

Well good luck in the MW.  Phil Neuzil and myself are talking about making the Mid-America MotorPlex round in July.  Maybe we can drag Hartlieb with us.

Anyway, good luck and see you in Vegas for sure.
Title: Re: Firebird Lap times?
Post by: Team_nuclear123 on February 04, 2004, 04:11:13 PM
Im pretty sure that what Tristan was laughing at was the typo in the post....

"The fastest expert times I recall were in the low 1:59's by Mark Ledesma."

But I think T's best time was in the :03s.. I ll check my notes

Scott "Opie" Jackson got down to a 1:01 on his 85th lap on the same rear tire...

Brian was "Halling" some serious azz at that last race, hell at every race! I thought we had him at  a 1:00

Maybe we could get CCS to post the time sheets for this year on line...

Brian, I wont even tell you that its about 65 degrees out today, and has only rained about 5 days this year... Hell, I think it  got down to 38 one night, but only one night!

Will
Title: Re: Firebird Lap times?
Post by: CCSRACER123CCS on February 04, 2004, 07:38:35 PM
Yeah 1:03's on a 650...Brian was with the experts in all the races from what I recall. I broke down and watched the race from turn one and Brian would be in turn 3 when the rest of the crowd was coming on to the straight! Too bad I'm not 16 or I would see you at Vegas Brian, good luck. John, no smaK talking, I'll be at Firebird in 2 weeks, anyone else?
Title: Re: Firebird Lap times?
Post by: SlowDragon on February 04, 2004, 08:26:11 PM
My best there last April was a 1:03 on the 996, and around 4:00 in November. Although the 998 is faster I found that it's just as hard to push.

I'm thinking of coming and pushing my bike around the pits  ;D  or perhaps not. 3 visits, 3 mechanicals.

Good luck guys.

Matt - yellow plate!! Pllleeeaaaasseeee..... where's that petition
Title: Re: Firebird Lap times?
Post by: CCSRACER123CCS on February 04, 2004, 10:26:41 PM
Simon, if you go to Firebird, hopefully you won't have to leave after practice!
Matt- Were you the guy on the RC51 in the beginning of the year?
Title: Re: Firebird Lap times?
Post by: bmgracing on February 05, 2004, 01:05:45 AM
Nope, I was the guy right behind the guy on the RC51 at the Streets round.  That was Matt Bullock.  I have no idea what happenned to him last year.  He won all his races out at Streets and then came to Firebird and wrecked . . . that was the last I saw of him.

Simon, no petition here.  I even sent an e-mail requesting that I go to expert and heard nothing back.  After thinking about it, I figured I would just stay yellow until they move me up.  No sense missing out on tire and purse money is the way I am looking at it.  Plus, I'll be able to catch you from the 2nd wave anyway. :P  So would you get your ass down here to Phoenix for the first round so you can prove me wrong!

Title: Re: Firebird Lap times?
Post by: SlowDragon on February 05, 2004, 05:20:53 AM
Sadly I will not be making the trip to Phoenix this time so we'll have to get together later in the season.

But, is catching someone pushing a bike that much of a challenge  ;) ?  Try some real hard work like chasing Tristan and Brian instead  ;D
Title: Re: Firebird Lap times?
Post by: bmgracing on February 05, 2004, 05:56:01 AM
Simon you make me laugh!  Too funny . . . I will have to set my goals higher this year.  I will be out at Streets so hopefully see you there.
Title: Re: Firebird Lap times?
Post by: u-hallmhall@schaum on February 05, 2004, 06:27:38 AM
that would be great if you guys brought Hartlieb
and yourselves to mid america
its a cool track
im sure its nice and warm in Az, were suposed to get 6inches of snow tonight in Chitown
i havent ridden a bike in a month and a half
i think i rember getting in the 100s lap times at firebird but cant be sure without checking my notes which are in my trailor and my trailor is snowed in at the moment
Tristen its good to be young dont rush it, if i dont see you at Las vegas this year then next year i might and you will be even faster then, i wish i was your age haha
good luck buddy
Title: Re: Firebird Lap times?
Post by: raptorduck952 on February 05, 2004, 06:39:13 AM
No worries kid. ;) Hey Matt, I won't be at Firebird.  :(Got little money this year to race so it is all up in the air.

I did not know Firebird got resurfaced. Seems to me that would lower lap times. The 1:59's for Mark Ledesma I recall from the first or second round at Firebird last year. The announcer said he had broken the lap record there with that time. Recall he apparently also broke the lap record at Vegas.

In the first round at Firebird my starting lap times were in the 1:08's and my fastest were in the low 1:06's, with one high 1:05. In the round where we went back to make things up a month later, I got into the low 1:04's on my '02 R6. That was my best track last year, where I got my best results.

Rod was doing low 1:02's when he had a huge lead in the amateur UGP race, but then crashed. Brian was faster in overall as I recall (no surprise there Brian). Of course I crashed my bike too and hopped on Terry's Kawi to get some points in sportbike before I limped home, so missed the all the SW round that weekend,  having done only the makeup races.

I never made it to the remaining rounds at Firebird last year. :-[
Title: Re: Firebird Lap times?
Post by: raptorduck952 on February 05, 2004, 06:42:08 AM
QuoteNo worries kid. ;)
The 1:59's for Mark Ledesma I recall from the first or second round at Firebird last year. . :-[

 ;DUm, it must be my keyboard, cuz that Typo Tristian and Will pointed out iz still there. . . . meant 0:59's. ::)