It's cold as heck out and that means it's time to buy ;)
I found a local guy selling a 2001 SV650 with low miles for $2600. It's been down and needs pegs on the one side & has some rash but nothing major. It's bone stock.
I was hoping to find something about that price with some mods (pipe or shock). Am I being un-realistic? Is this a GREAT deal? Is there anyone within a couple hundred miles of Philly with one for sale in this price range?
Thank you for any input...
Sounds like a GOOD deal. I think you should probably go for it.
Low miles is key. If this is a private seller, see if you can do a compression test before you buy. A racebike for that price would be beat. Be sure frame, forks and wheels are straight.
I can spin the wheels to see if they're true and I have a machinists straight edge I can test the forks with. I know I can look at the frame for cracks and stressed welds but how else can I look for a bent frame?
You can negotiate a deal that you will take the bike to GMD Computrack to have it measured. If it's straight the fee comes off the price of the bike, if it's bent, he pays for it, or knocks X amount of $'s off the price. This way you'll know for sure what's up with the bike for a small intial investment.
www.gmdcomputrack.com
I think it sounds good. From '03 on they're fuel injected so you'll be down a few ponies to the newer ones.
Frame damage you'd have to use common sense. Impact crash or easy low side are very different things, etc.
Leak down test is a good idea. Good price.
If you plan on racing this bike I do not recommend it. By the time you do all the stuff you want you will have 7000 in the thing. Bodywork 700, shock 900, forks 500, chain and sprockets 200, pipe and jet kit (will need this) 1000, damper 300, not to mention the stuff like clip on's and frame sliders. You can find TON'S of SV's right now ready to go with spare wheels and all for around $5000 or less. This doesn't even count the labor and time to do all this stuff.
Im pretty sure that Spears is selling what HAS to be the most well sorted SV superstock bike around.
I think that bike has won about a gazillion races with Brian Long up, has all the goodies, and makes 74rwhp.
Tristan was jumped on it, went out and won races on it, with NO seat time on it, came in and raved about it.
Best part is I think Gregg only wants 5 or 6k for it totally ready to race....
www.spearsenterprises.com
Will
I don't plan to put more than about $3500 into this bike as most of my money needs to go towards track time. I figure...
$2500 - bike
$200 - fork springs & valves
$400 - used shock
$400 - 1st set of tires, sliders, sprockets, a few spares..
$??? - rear set adapters
For body work I only plan to have a small generic sport windshield and I'll make my own belly pan (I'm pretty good with fiberglass). Later in the season I'll do the pipe, filter & jets, maybe a steering damper too but to start I'm only doing a little suspension stuff. I'm not looking to win anything, just trying to keep up (for now...)
QuoteI don't plan to put more than about $3500 into this bike as most of my money needs to go towards track time. I figure...
$2500 - bike
$200 - fork springs & valves
$400 - used shock
$400 - 1st set of tires, sliders, sprockets, a few spares..
$??? - rear set adapters
You have it figured out, you wont find a better deal for that. Dont worry about the frame the SV is very, very stout. You are going to do exactly the same thing as i did. Bought a stock one that had basicly fallen over and dented the tank for $2500, put a GSXR shock on for $30, jetted it for $15 put in race tech springs and emulators for $250, bodywork for $450, Thats it and raced it. I dont know where cuda came up with his numbers but they are way off the mark.
QuoteI dont know where cuda came up with his numbers but they are way off the mark.
What James_redsv said is about right. Just buy the bike and do it. I don't know about the GSXR shock though.
About carrying the bike to GMD to see if it is straight and take the difference off price of the bike??? If I was selling it I would probably tell you to "kiss my a$$". It is 2600.00 bucks or take a hike. That is a great deal. Who in the hell are these people?
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GSXR Shock? I found the limits of mine in about 4 weekends. I wouldn't bother having it resprung and revalved if you get one. If you can swing the $, go with at least a fox, but then again you run into problems, etc. But at least it will have adjustable ride height. (I think)
I have seen a guy race a box stock SV, stock shock, stock exaust, stock front end, stock pegs and turn the same lap times as the front runners in AM. Beat me one time, 1.41-42s at VIR N plenty more sparks than the tricked out bikes, less clearence. The point is if you are really on a budget all you need is a front/side number plates and a belly pan. With an SV its all about twisting your wrist as soon as possible, it dont really matter what kinda crap you have strapped to it. ;D
QuoteAbout carrying the bike to GMD to see if it is straight and take the difference off price of the bike??? If I was selling it I would probably tell you to "kiss my a$$". It is 2600.00 bucks or take a hike. That is a great deal. Who in the hell are these people?
Hey Trey, it was only a suggestion. Thanks for the kind words though. :o
The risk to buying a used race bike is a lot higher on the engine, frame and useable bits. Also, the tranny is known to wear quickly which is more likely on a bike that's been flogged on the track.
Realistically, some of the race bikes you see for sale have been down more times than a french hooker.
Still, you should be able to find a decent one for $4500, hopefully from someone you know or that knows the bike has been lightly used, if you've got the dough to start at that level.
Although the prices for parts in Cuda's post are exagerated, the point about it being expensive to do a thorough race workup on a bike is valid.
At the same time, I think your price expectations are a bit low. Some people are so talented they can ride anything fast, but they wouldn't ride a stock SV for an entire season if they had the money for improvements.
IMO, rearsets, steering damper and suspension are basics. The pretty stuff can wait.
Just my $.02 after doing 2 EX's, 2 SV's and an R6 fairly recently.
Too good to be true...
I just looked at the bike. I was told it was a 2001 but it turned out to be a 2000. It was missing both pegs, rear brake lever, clutch lever & front fender. I think the radiator is busted but everything else is excellent. Forks aren't even scratched and are straight & true. Body work & paint's even pretty nice. It already had sliders & the frame is perfect. 6700 miles, Yoshimura exhaust, K&N filter, etc... I left a deposit & will be picking it up tomorrow, even got a 10 day warranty to drive it around the neighberhood. CLEAN TITLE! I think I'm going to explode ;D
How are you going to ride it around the neighborhood in the next 10 days without pegs or levers? ;D
4 pairs of vicegrips ;D
QuoteToo good to be true...
I just looked at the bike. I was told it was a 2001 but it turned out to be a 2000. /quote]
Actually, if you're going by the stamp on the frame where the VIN is it may be a 2001. Many SVs are stamped with the prior year and sold as the next year's model. It won't matter for parts anyway. Miles and condition are all that count.
Quote4 pairs of vicegrips ;D
Get pics of that!!! ;D
QuoteToo good to be true...
I just looked at the bike. I was told it was a 2001 but it turned out to be a 2000. It was missing both pegs, rear brake lever, clutch lever & front fender. I think the radiator is busted but everything else is excellent. Forks aren't even scratched and are straight & true. Body work & paint's even pretty nice. It already had sliders & the frame is perfect. 6700 miles, Yoshimura exhaust, K&N filter, etc... I left a deposit & will be picking it up tomorrow, even got a 10 day warranty to drive it around the neighberhood. CLEAN TITLE! I think I'm going to explode ;D
You got a great deal even if its an 2000, love the 4 vicegrips joke, unreal lol. ;D
I forgot, one thing to check on the 2000 is a recall on the oil pump. Take the VIN to any suzi dealer and they canl tell you if it has been fixed. All the dealer would do is put a small deflector over the oil pump outlet if it hasnt already been done. Seems the 2000 models would lock up at high speeds because of lack of oil, something you dont want to happen at race speeds. The deflector fixes it fine.
congrats on the new bike. Post up pick man
i've been racing SV's for a few years and have been a front runner with no less than 3rd place in lightweight supersport Mid atlantic region. There are a few things you should have. Yes, you can race a bone stock SV but you can also crash one or get lapped too. You're being completely unrealistic with your price range. plan on spending around 5000.00 and you'll get a bike thats set up already, possibbly with some spares. i have my supersport bike for sale with a completely freshend motor with zero miles on it. it's completely ready to race all it needs is fuel. i am the original owner with all the paperwork. the bikes you look at should have a penske shock, re-valved forks, 520 chain, braided brake lines possibly a custom subframe to lighten the bike, good condition sharkskinz, a steering stabilizer, clip-ons and rearsets. theres a few more things you can do but these are the essentials. if your interested my email is regtr@aol.com and im in North Jersey.