Just curious as to everyones feelings on rule changes you would like to see for 2004 in Formula 40.
I know last year there was some discussion as to cc limits, lightweight vs hwyweight. super sport vs superbike.
I thought the grids were bigger than the previous year and the competition was better overall.
How can we get more well aged guys and gals involved?
Keith Wilson
CCS # 954 Ex
Have a Formula 50 class for us really old farts! 57 and still ticking.
I would like to see a lightweight/heavyweight split. Both could run together, so as not to add any aditional classes.
QuoteI would like to see a lightweight/heavyweight split. Both could run together, so as not to add any aditional classes.
I think thats a really good idea Brian. Just make it a 2 wave for LW/HW instead of EX/AM. That would be great fun with some very exciting racing!
I raced a couple times. I would leave the class alone. I think the Ex/Am distinction is a better one that Lw/Hw. I rode a 600 and diced regularly with GXR750s and RC51/Ducs. The experts (including those on 600s or SVs) ... we'll ... I never saw them after the start.
I turned 40 this year and got a rude awakening when I won the f-40 race at streets and found out that the F didn't mean what I thought it did. I was running a ZX9 at streets and was DQed. Formula at WSMC means open unless a cc limit is the class. The 750s are 50 pounds lighter and 10 horse stronger so what is the point of the 750 limmit in F-40, it makes no sence to me. I have a 636 this time so I hope to hear to protests on sunday at streets
QuoteHow can we get more well aged guys and gals involved?
Hey Arnziffel! I hope you're still monitoring this thread. Question for ya.
I'm really happy to have read the above part of your post. I'm over 40 but have thought F40 is for those who have raced and have now reached 40 (kinda like the Senior PGA) or very experienced street riders who now have the disposable income to try racing.
Does CCS F40 welcome true newbies? Newbie as in maybe 5 years riding experience and a riding school or two.
H-man
Hey H-man,
Certainly you would be more than welcome, the group of F40 riders here in the Midwest and Great plains divisions are a pretty tight knit group and enjoy having new faces join in. I got to race with some of the east coast guys at Barber and they seem to be a goood bunch of guys as well.
I wouldn't be to concerned that you don't have any race experience, there are alot of us that didn't start racing untill we were older. If you have had a school or two and feel comfortable on the track, by all means go for it.
You probably couldn't have a better class to start out in than F40, it certainly isnt cut throat racing, but it is very exciting to say the least.
Hope to see ya out there in 2004
H-Man, F40 is a great place to start, it is still considered the "Gentlemans Class"....
Oh man! ;D
Now the mind is really racing (no pun intended). Time to re-think next year's vacation plans and budget to see how I might make this a reality.
If you don't see me as a participant, you'll definitely see me at tracks close to the Detroit area to check things out and get to know you all. 8)
H-man
To assist me in understanding the pace of the group, I'd like to know the average lap time you guys (and gals) who run F40 do at Gingerman and Blackhawk.
Will you indulge me here?
H-man
I run in the S/E
Not uncommon to see the experts turning 14s and 15s at Blackhawk.
Hey Brian,
When did you get the SV?
Giving up on the RC?
going to run Light weight F40 ?
Is there anyone going to be riding F40 Ex heavyweight?
First let me tell you that F40 is anything but a gentlemens class, it is just as dicey as any other class. I wish that they had did this sooner and then I would have won another three championships seeing as how I ran a lightweight bike against all bigger bikes.
When I received the latest CCS mailer and saw they added a Lightweight F40 class I thought about it for a minute and then sent my license renewel in!
Who else is gonna compete in this class in the Midwest? Craig? Jim?
Keith- you ride a 125? if so I have a picture of us side by side in turn 3? at Mid America , pretty cool shot.
And what about this engine noise limlt? Has this been a rule in the past or something new? I wonder how strict their gonna be with enforcement. The bike I was planning to ride is REALLY LOUD.
See ya at RA in April!
Jim Holmen
MW EX 41
Hey Jim,
Missed you out there this year, wondered what happened.
I sold the 125 and went to the R6 this year to run with the bigger bikes, now they add F40 LW, go figure, Will ride the R6 again this year, but Richey is in Japan untill Feb of 05 and I think he just may be bringing me back a 250 to race in 05.
Would love to see the picture if you can email it to me. We had a good battle up there that last race.
I know they gave some warnings at Gateway about exhaust noise levels.
So what will you be riding?
Expert or Am.
I got upgraded to expert this past season. I'll see if I can get the resident "computer guru" (Beth) to e-mail you the pic's.
Jim
MW EX 41
QuoteWhen I received the latest CCS mailer and saw they added a Lightweight F40 class I thought about it for a minute and then sent my license renewel in!
Who else is gonna compete in this class in the Midwest? Craig? Jim?
I will run F-40 as always... But I will have to run the L/W class according to the new rules. ;D
Could you make a policy/name change to Formula 30?