So, who's in? Let me give a little background: naked bike racing is, in essence, racing without fairings. There are quite a few bikes that are made naked, and even more that can be undressed. (I never thought I would ever be typing smut like this.) So, what do you think?
Thanks in advance!
They need oil containment.
Call me and I'll explain an idea I have for a great new addition to CCS.
Yes, they must all have belly pans, we're aware of that. I'm not going in to the possible rules, we just wanted to as y'all's opinion.
Buell racers are all about nekkid racing. Count me in.
Tiff,
There is already a class covering naked bikes, any of the GP classes :o! Not to start a furor ::), but perhaps we need to consider reducing the number of classes. Having "survived" 4 twin sprint weekends in the SE this year, listening to various comments, some degree of consolidation appears in order. As a dinosaur ;), I miss the longer events. In the dark ages, when we roamed the earth, the goal was 20-25 mile races and hour long GTs :).
Some bikes are just not meant to be raced on a roadrace course, Gold Wings, Harley (Buells do tho), Dirt trackers, Motards(they belong on a combo course dirt and pavement; can't beleive I said that I OWN 1 3/2 of them) all come to mind. If thoses with said bikes want to get a little "track time" they can fit into existing classes and know they are out classed.
Now true naked racing could result in a bit of roadrash. :o
Now a night race with Gold Wings would be kinda cool with the floor boards sparking and radios blaring and jumpseat arranging anti-draft/anti-pass devices. 8) ::)
I think the idea is that the naked bikes, like a Bandit 12, don't have a competitive class to race in.
I'm personally against the idea of adding more classes unless we get rid of some other ones. Take out Superbike classes! Take those 3 out, then add 1 or 2 naked classes, and we still come out ahead :) Dunno if I like the idea of naked bike racing.
Did this not already happen once before in the seca challange, this was great racing all spec bikes and tire's it really would seperate the men from the boy's since I am currently riding a super motard I know a;ll about riding a naked bike and since I can whoop most sv 650 guys i am ready to race anything. As a true racer for over 12 years , I will tell you a true racer will race anything you give them , lawn mowers, tractors, mini bikes, Well just look at how big 50 cc racing is getting. in all reality racing has just gotten way to expensive anymore and most people with normal jobs just can not afford a $ 30,000.00 per year to race for fun and trophys. making a less expensive class or spec class will return some fun to racing
Please... As much as I love ya'all... Dave in a bikini was as close to NEKKID as my poor eyeballs can stand.
I was just waiting for a Super Dave comment...it's like this post was asking for it!
Art--belive me, next year will be better all around...BELIEVE ME! You'll like the changes--we all will.
The question about naked racing is not about what we should or shouldn't do--I'm just trying to find out if there is any interest. Eric, you could at least call your wife and ask what the question meant.
see MAN........ I thought nakkked chicks on the track when I saw this tread :o
But man y aguys are talking about classes.... DAMMMMMMMM >:(
QuoteArt--belive me, next year will be better all around...BELIEVE ME! You'll like the changes--we all will.
Would I be up for it? Maybe.
Would I be up for it if it added to the total number of classes? No way.
As for your quote above... How so? What specifically do you have planned? (different classes? Different schedules? Personel changes?) I think that we all would like to hear specifics, not just a general statement. Let us know. Thanks. :)
Screw the nakid bikes. :D
Lets replace Super Twins with a Bagger class. Kims TLR would still be eligible. ;D ;D ;D
I agree with Paul... "nekkid Buell's for everyone" :o
A naked class could potentially save a guy like me thousands per year in fiberglass and duct tape... :o
I dont really understand this. You can run an SV with just number plates and a belly pan in a bunch of classes if you want to and be toatly competitive. A Kawi KZ1000, ducati monsters, they same way. Are you guys wanting to add a class just for bikes with no fairings???? Racing classes should be according to engine size,age, stuff like that, not on wheather one choses to race with a fairing on not. That would be like adding a class just for people who prefer to run Dunlop tires. To Tiff, if there is any intrest in running a bike without a fairing, as I have just said you can do it now if you want.
QuoteI was just waiting for a Super Dave comment...it's like this post was asking for it!
LOL!
Naked bikes? Seems redundant. The rules allow naked bikes as they are as long as they have a catch pan lower. The fairing doesn't make it faster, but most naked bikes are tuned by the manufacturers to make better low end. I'd love to try racing a Yamaha FZ1. But, I'd race a KZ1000. I think a built air cooled KZ1000 might fit into Middleweight Superbike.
The question is: would anyone do it?
Sportsman fits the categories too already. I think I can race a CB750 in Middlewieght Sportsman. If we could get catch pan lowers on the CR750, I'd be racing a 380# 115HP bike in that class, if the owner wanted to.
In a nut shell...
It seems redundant.
The current class structures has dramatically reduced rider set up and practice time dramatically of the past four years. Riders almost feel obligated to come to practice days, etc. to try and be ready.
This isn't such an issue for expert riders that have some experience, but for newer riders, this is a safety concern. Bikes do get a little faster each year. It takes a new racer a certain amount of time just to become aclimatized to track speeds so that panic doesn't completely set in. I'm sure that the lack of practice time is one of the reasons why new racers go away so quickly...they feel as though they can never be competitive or get better with the TINY, TINY amounts of track time that are available to them.
Alternatives...Dave's school, but I got screwed on that last year for this year, didn't I (no further comment....)?
What we really need is another class or 2 for the 1000cc in line 4 cylinder bikes coming out. i want to spend a lot of money with CCS next year, and i am only racing a 1000/4, that leaves me with too much money in my pocket at the end of a weekend with the currrent class structure.
I say we at least make Heavyweight superbike an Unlimited superbike class.
Sure have a nekkid class, make sure you run them with the classes that have like 2 guys show up to race in miniscule sportsman.
And on another note....
CCE/CCS continues to look for more classes to seemingly attact more racers. However, it fails to recognize the core classes in American motorcycle racing. There are classes that are important, and they should be treated accordingly.
Additionally, the riders in these classes are the core riders to any local club scene. Focus on making rider happy, or at least reasonably content, and things will go much smoother and riders will continue racing longer.
I'm a very reasonable person. I've offered to attend the Texas PowWow that you guys have. Seems to be attended by officials with no real represention of riders. There in lies the problem. Ultimately, this is all about racing, not about rules or anything else.
If the focus was on the racing, people might actually be attracted to come watch a group of riders that prove themselves week in, week out at different events. Additionally, the up and come-er's add some flash.
Focus...when you go to a big racing event, you're there to see the riders/drivers...Kenseth, Mladin, Schumacker, Rossi, etc. I care less about the vehicle. When you go to an art gallery, you're looking at what someone can do, not at his brushes.
Dave:
This post was just an open-ended question about if people were interested in a naked bike race. I never said it would be a mainstream class, nor did I say it would even race for points. The point of this poll is to get everyone's input.
The Big Mac is meant for officials who are going over rule changes, updates, etc. Rather than limit ourselves to hearing one or two rider voices (who may have their own objectives and agendas) we post polls on this board and ask for rider opinion.
QuoteArt--belive me, next year will be better all around...BELIEVE ME! You'll like the changes--we all will.
When will we find out about these changes? Some of us are already making plans for next year.
YOU KNOW AFTER RACING 1000 CC BIKES EATING TIRES EVERY THREE OR FOUR LAPS, I WOULD THINK EVERYONE WOULD BE OPEN MINDED TO A SPEC CLASS. MAKING IT MORE FUN AND LESS EXPENSIVE IS WHAT ALL US CHEAP RACERS NEED.
I AM SURE THE MANUFACTORERS ARE LOOKING TO PUMP CERTAIN NEW MODELS SO A SPEC CLASS IS BOUND TO RETURN, WHEN YAMAHA SPONSERED THE SECA CHALLANGE THAT WAS SOME OF THE BEST MONEY A LOCAL RIDER COULD EARN WITH OUT SPENDING DOUBLE TO MAKE IT.
CCS IS IN NEED OF MORE RACERS AND NEW CLASSES, THE WHOLE POINTS CHASE THIS FOR A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PURE CRAP, NO OFFENSE TO THE RIDERS BUT THE POINT LEADER IS JUST WHO EVER PAY'S MORE MONEY FOR ENTRIES.
i HAVE RACED LONG ENOUGH TO SEE A EX 500 WIN SOUTHEAST REGION 2 YEARS IN A ROW , A SV650 TO WIN FLORIDA REGION SOON ? WHY AND HOW IT IS ALL ABOUT $$$.
I HAVE RACED ALL YEAR AND NOT EARNED 1 POINT BY ENTERING ONLY CLASSES THAT DO NOT PAY POINTS !! THIS IS MY SMALL PROTEST !
SO WHAT IF I RIDE MY DIRT BIKE !!
Gosh 68.....
No need to shout!
;) :)
Iagree with Rosno and James-redsv - seems irrelevant. I was at a WERA race and the guy that won the expert D superbike race was on a naked SV. Waste of ink, if you ask me.
I would, however, be all in favor of a new class only for races that had points updates done the day after every race weekend. Not sure what the size/weight limitations would be, but I'd strap bricks onto my SV to make it legal, if necessary. ;D
QuoteI AM SURE THE MANUFACTORERS ARE LOOKING TO PUMP CERTAIN NEW MODELS SO A SPEC CLASS IS BOUND TO RETURN, WHEN YAMAHA SPONSERED THE SECA CHALLANGE THAT WAS SOME OF THE BEST MONEY A LOCAL RIDER COULD EARN WITH OUT SPENDING DOUBLE TO MAKE IT.
Which models? Only a small portion of models sold in the US are race bikes. I think the one that had the highest ratio was maybe the Yamaha RZ350.
The Seca Challenge was for Amateurs only. Was interesting, but amateurs should focus on learning.
MZ had series under AHRMA for spec MZ Skorpions. I did this in 1998. Was fun, was cheap, and it was poorly attended. Doesn't seem to work like it does in Europe.
In the US, Harley did it with the 883 class in regional as well as AMA Pro and NASB. Then went to the Buell series. Again, it has been done. The Suzuki Cup Series seems to work, but during the year, they race against the other brands. Honda did the same thing in having a finale at the end of the year, but I think they ended that after 1994.
I think the only way a spec series would really work would be in the way that I have heard some of my friends in Europe talk about it.
There, they had identically prepped Honda 600's available. You brought your shock and forks to the track and put it on the bike. Race. Set up is the key as the rest of the bike is identical. Interesting, but tell me who you know that would have the money to do it.
Additionally, if you're supported by a good Yamaha dealership...mine is http://www.sportsmanspark.net ...I'm not going to enter a Honda Cup Series event unless it's big money. Not sure who will.
Seems like there are guys that feel that there isn't fair play. I'll agree with it to a certain point, but set up in road racing is the key. HP won't make that much of a difference.
As for a rider that has objectives and adgendas...
Honestly, I can only say that I see reasonable rules and fair play as the objectives that should be addressed. Manufacturers have adgendas, but that doesn't let CCE or the AMA keep them out of negotiations for new classes (FUSA Superbike) and the like.
I think it is somewhat disappointing to many riders that there isn't a rider that has any input. There are times where the riders do not agree at all with the officials. Our safety issues sometimes exist where they don't even appear on an officials screen. Not that we're trying to be mean, but when you're trying to go fast, things change a bit. I'm sure that some riders feel that their issues don't get the validity that they deserve.
There should be some amount of input from us. After all, with out the riders, there would be no racing, period.
Back to spec racing.... It isn't cheap. Try making an AMA Supersport bike. Lots of work and lots of money to try to work within the parameters. FUSA Sportbike, on the other hand, that's at least reasonable. Yet, few riders seem to enter that class at the regional series even though it has a purse?
??? What's up with that?
dave , i do agree with you for sure, as I am a yamaha man myself , best dealer in world is www.rivayamaha.com .
As all can see the need for more afordable safer racing is the key , look at the supermotard's this is taking off like sliced bread everyone wants it.
the cost is nothing, and currently even at the ama pro level there is still the chance a no name can win. the purse is certainly not there yet. but if it keeps snowballing it will over run roadracing and speed vision will be showing it live rather that ama 750 superstock(suzuki cup), or world supersport (ducati cup)
They show slow the bikes down and work towards safer tracks, and get the cost of racing on a local level back to an affordable cost. this needs help in all angles tire's, fuel, entries, bodywork, suspension etc.
QuoteAs all can see the need for more afordable safer racing is the key , look at the supermotard's this is taking off like sliced bread everyone wants it.
Supermotard is expensive. Bike, rims, road race tires. The tires get trashed. Almost the same costs.
Quotethe cost is nothing, and currently even at the ama pro level there is still the chance a no name can win.
I completely disagree with that statement. I can think of no "no name" that has ever done well. Their roots are usually traceable. It costs an easy $70k to do one class in the AMA. Jason Pridmore told me it cost him $30k for each class in 1993. I did the whole series AMA series (750 and 600SS) and a regional series for about $18k. I though that was a lot.
Quotebut if it keeps snowballing it will over run roadracing and speed vision will be showing it live rather that ama 750 superstock(suzuki cup), or world supersport (ducati cup)
It would have to have stars. Bikes are not cool to watch, only people that are cool enough to get something out of them. IROC...it wasn't about the cars, it was about the drivers.
QuoteThey show slow the bikes down and work towards safer tracks, and get the cost of racing on a local level back to an affordable cost. this needs help in all angles tire's, fuel, entries, bodywork, suspension etc.
Ok, give me five ways to reduce the costs that would effectively reduce the costs. Be careful, this is hard, and I'm not trying to be mean, but trying to reduce costs sometimes raises others exponentally.
i don' understand . there is no requirment for bodywork now. I see lots of hawks, SVs, EX500s, and an occasional MZ, Yamaha SRX, buell, etc. without any bodywork besides an oil pan. There is nothing to prevent anyone else from doing the same. As long as you have an oil pan and number plates, i don't see where ccs cares about bodywork at all.
If it's not a "mainstream class", whatever that is, or not a points paying class, what is it? Just a way to waste track time? Plenty of that going on now, especially the "scooter class" weekends.
Hey, maybe that's what this is. You don't really need to be a CCS racer, just show up on your naked bike and do laps for kicks. Or wait, isn't that what we'll see next week at Gingerman? LP track day? A very nice waste of racers track time. ::)
Forgot this in my last post. Where the he// is the NO box in this poll?
QuoteJust a way to waste track time? Plenty of that going on now, especially the "scooter class" weekends.
LP track day? A very nice waste of racers track time. ::)
AAAAAH! Calgon!
QuoteForgot this in my last post. Where the he// is the NO box in this poll?
Hey, at least you can vote. Somehow, it's turned off for me...
Must be some kind of conspiracy....LOL! 8) 8) 8) :-X
I think we should have 2-3 dozen more classes and reduce races to a single lap!
It's nice to see that some of us woke up on the wrong side of the bed yesterday. Geez, I just asked a basic question: who would be interested. I never said we would actually race it, I never said we were for sure doing it at all. LP Track Days are valuble--once upon a time, all racers were nubies who were jonesing for track time. Giving these nubies the opportunity to get on a track is not a waste of time.
Quote LP Track Days are valuble--once upon a time, all racers were nubies who were jonesing for track time. Giving these nubies the opportunity to get on a track is not a waste of time.
I agree. But why not leave this responsibility with the many track day organizations. IMO CCS should stick with what they do best which is conducting racing events. Let the secondary track day market take care of the rest. Combining racers and track day folk is not an ideal mix especially at the expense of racers track time. It's sort of............
Racers are still getting the same amount of track time. Same amount of practices (in fact, if they choose the LP Day option, they get an extra couple of rounds--but that is a choice), and race lengths have not been shortened. And sport riders should get to spend time at a track on a race weekend. What better way for them to meet racers and learn how a weekend really works?
I'll voice information that I can generalize upon.
It seems that there are the racers, and the track day guys. They are different. A minor few track day guys might some day try racing, maybe. Racers might some day quit racing and might actually do track days.
I haven't seen the track day crowd as an active farmland for racers. They want to do something different.
Admittedly, I think racers feel impeded upon by the track day crowd. If there is room to have track time for a sport rider program, that means that there always was time for racers for practice, etc. I think since we do bear the extraordinary brunt of the financial responsibility for renting the track, we feel as though it is "ours" for the day.
Just a few years ago, we did have more practice time and rotations. In the Midwest, we get to watch scooters race. As an expert, I'd rather pay a bit more for my races, give me more purse races, get rid of some classes, and let the races go just a little longer.
It think it's more important to focus efforts into trying to maintain more racers in the industry that it is to try to farm out more. Does that make sense? Ultimately, a older racer is much better at making an impression on a potential racer than any kind of mailing or sport rider day. Thoughts?
I came into racing from doing track days, and I still do track days as well. For some people racing is the next step up from track days, some, :o but not most. I do agree CCS should stick to racing and leave the track days to other groups. SuperDave, we do need to get more people involved in racing, if it were up to you only old guys would race and there wouldnt be any new people at all. How can this sport survive like that. :o
QuoteSuperDave, we do need to get more people involved in racing, if it were up to you only old guys would race and there wouldnt be any new people at all. How can this sport survive like that. :o
No, I don't think you recognize what I'm saying.
In business, you focus yourself on keeping your current customers (the racers with licenses), but you do put something toward getting new ones. But, it costs way more to try and get new customers.
The "standard" racer lasts about 2 to 2 and 1/2 years. That's cr@p.
Look at this on the higher level. Dealership A decides to support a racer, we'll call him Jim. Jim has been racing for five an a half years. Jim knows how the system works, can prep things, he can ride competently. The dealership takes pride in his accomplishments as they understand the work he does and the image that he portrays. Riders that meet Jim see that he is a pretty good rider and racer. He works hard and he has decent results. Some people that do business at the dealership might actually find that it's rewarding to help Jim out financially. Additionally, some riders might find that, because of Jim, road racing looks fun. Jim is happy to point them in the right direction.
On the flip side, Dealership C decides to support Bill. Bill started racing about a year ago. He's an amateur that rides about mid pack. Really isn't sure about what he's doing, but he gets around the track. Bill buys some products that his "buddies" recommend that really don't do anything for Bill's performance. Bill thinks that dealership C should give him a new motorcycle, because that will get him to the front. The dealership decides to do that. Bill's performance doesn't change, but in an effort to make a showing, he wads the bike, and it is a complete wash. Bill quit's road racing, the dealership decides not to put any funds toward racing.
Experienced racers legitimize a sport. How long has Nicky been on a bike? With that kind of involvment comes a lot of knowledge. Ed Key...he's done a whole lot, stuff that I know about that most people don't know about. When I've got one of my guys that I feel could possibly get and idea from Ed, I'll take them over to Ed and introduce them. Because of the way this silly sport IS, there are few like him.
Every year, I get to watch a group of people come in, and a group go, probably to never return again. When the older guys go, that's even worse, because that's a resource for the new guys.
I'm not saying that we don't need the new guys, but if the system were set up better to keep the new guys around under a system that is better suited for the racer in general...it would be more fun for the racer and the organization wouldn't be scrambling to try and keep the racers that they have.
As it is now, some riders get involved in racing way too early, too soon. Most racing/safety schools teach flags, etc. And I don't see most of those guys going racing anyway. But once a guy is involved, try to keep him, under reasonable circumstances.
That is part of what my school was about: Trying to help the guys that are already racing learn something that will give them some tools to understand how this all works.
What do you think, James-redsv?
I think the reason, if we arent talking about money, most stop racing is lack of a reachable goal. It goes something like this, 1st year beginner racer, do a few Am races to get the feel for racing with a goal of a Am championship or 2 the next year and turn expert. The 2nd year go to almost all the races, by the end of the year you are leading the Am SS, SBK points and passing some experts. You win the SE, SS SBK and are expert for year 3. 3rd year you are a mid pack expert but by mid season you are up front some. At the end of the year you end up 3rd overall in the expert class. Now whats left to do the 4th 5th 6th years, just win an expert title and thats it, unless you are a kid and could possibly go to the AMA and get a factory or support team ride. Basicly you have done all you can do in 3 years of club racing, so why keep racing, it kinda starts getting boring. I havent seen anything CCS has done to run people off. Im not quiting CCS just because they have a hard time updating the points or work in a track day on a race weekend. One thing they did do that pissed me off, they dropped CMP from the SE series and added Barber and Jennings, both are not SE tracks. CMP is the closest track to me and we dont even go there, its too stupid ???. So what can be done to make it more interesting to the guys that have been at it for a while? I dont know. Hey maybe some of the guys Im racing against this year wont be back when they have to turn EX. I guess that would be good for me, less compitition in the overcrowded expert class. Im planning on racing next year, which will be my 3rd ::) Then after that , I might go back to racing enduros, I havent won any of thoses in 8 years or so. Hey a new goal racing enduros, anyone want to trade a KTM 400 for an SV? Just kidding, I still havent gotten this road racing out of my system yet ;D ;D
I'll go with James on this, but with Dave too. Last year I was a rookie and did pretty good for an ol fart This year as an Amature again, got hurt in the first race and took a look at the cost. Risk vs reward. Spend $1,000, risk injury from sombody elses mistake, pick up some wood. Ok, reevaluate, let's go for fun. Spend $600 end up running with mid pack and now it's scary and go without wood. Still had fun and loved it BUT, Now bike is obsolete, and replacement is going to average out to maybe $1,000 a weekend if I'm going to do it right. So what the heck am I doing. I could have been classed an expert if I'd have entered 1 more race so it's hardly a goal, if anything I feel like a sandbagger. Had I understood Sportsman HW and F40 didn't count maybe I'd have rode 1 more race last year. Clearly I'll never aspire to AMA factory rider status Going just for fun and personal achivement is OK, but a boat is fun too and women hang at dock bars.
I dunno. Race season/vacation home/ 40'boat, we all have choices for our commitments. A Junior ranking between AM and Expert would keep some riders in longer to move through the ranks.
Oh Tiff, back on topic, I don't think fairings have much if anything to do with end results and maybe writing that in the newbie manual might be enough to get the new guy feeling more confident.
I've set myself up for crucifixtion now so let's hear it.
QuoteAt the end of the year you end up 3rd overall in the expert class. Now whats left to do the 4th 5th 6th years, just win an expert title and thats it, unless you are a kid and could possibly go to the AMA and get a factory or support team ride. Basicly you have done all you can do in 3 years of club racing, so why keep racing, it kinda starts getting boring. I havent seen anything CCS has done to run people off.
Well, if in three year of potential club racing, it gets boring and CCS isn't doing anything to keep you there... Seems like there is a problem.
First, the possibility of a factory or support ride for anyone is very, very slim. Unless you have a great deal of money to get yourself in AND you are extremely talented, probably isn't a chance to do it. As for support, etc....it's available at the club level. I had a Kawasaki support ride in 1999 and 2000 when it was available.
There is FUSA too. That is a much better stepping stone for an expert anyway. If you're not winning every expert race you enter, you probably don't have any business at the AMA level anyway. That's the truth. If you can win club races like that, then you can do Yamaha money, Suzuki money, and the like. Larry Denning has turned down some opportunities because what he does is better for him. Mladin made $4k for his Laguna superbike win...Denning wins $8k at Blackhawk the next weekend. Which had less stress?
Rule # ??? A racer must wake up on the same side of the bed every morning. Oh yeah, and naked. ;D
Quotea boat is fun too and women hang at dock bars.
Could I get more information about this? ::)
Chris, you need to check out the Sunset Tavern (same place we do the 3 hr ice race) on just about any summer weekend.
By the way, the owner there is planning to do oval track ice races every Saturday night and road course style ice races every Sunday in January and February next year. The road course layoutwill change every week. 8)
I think I need to talk him into an XR100 class. ;D ;D
Cris, I was fooling around with sailboats awhile and YES, a good boat at the pier helps your social calender alot more than a solo seat bike with the promise of sleeping in a trailer at the track. Thus we ponder, sex, racetrack, sex, racetrack. Racing is better than sex for oh...what did Dave say 2 1/2years. ;D
QuoteThus we ponder, sex, racetrack, sex, racetrack. Racing is better than sex for oh...what did Dave say 2 1/2years. ;D
THAT was funny!
Personally as a woman who as done both the boat and the race track....
.... I prefer the track!
Dawn ;D
Quote from a conversation I had with Rhiannon as I was amping down from a great stint in the team challenge.
Chris: "Man, this racing $#it is the best thing I've done in my whole life!"
Rhiannon: "Even better than sex?"
After a long pause... Chris: "Sex is as good as racing, but only for about the last ten seconds."
Another long pause... Rhiannon: "Sigh. Yep. You're right."
Dude, you gotta work on that.
I'm so good...
I scream my own name during sex...
How do you think I've gotten away doing this for so long? 8)
Simply put....racing is the most fun you can have with your clothes on! :o
QuoteDude, you gotta work on that.
I'm so good...
I scream my own name during sex...
How do you think I've gotten away doing this for so long? 8)
Oh great, now I have the visual of you in the bikini screaming your own name stuck in my head. ::) Although it is funny considering you'd be speaking in the 3rd person.
Back to the topic... where would you put your sponsor's stickers? Everyone knows stickers add horsepower and make you faster anyways. ;D
Ray
There's always plenty of room for stickers! :D
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This is an old pic of MZGirl's bike. Too bad I don't have a newer pic handy, now pretty much all available space on the bellypan is taken, the front fender is full, a few more stickers on the upper, and the Metzeler stickers on the forks and swingarm.
-z.
That's not naked.
Take off the upper. That is a fairing. Gone.... ;D