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Title: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: motomadness on September 16, 2003, 05:59:47 AM
I looked at the schedule for this weekend, and I didn't notice any live motorcycle races, except for the FIM MotoGP stuff.  What's going on?

We'll have to watch the taped-delayed races on Tuesday while we are all supposed to be at work.

And there are still no plans on showing the AMA 250GP race, even though it's supposedly the last one ever, after 40 years in the US.
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: THE_D.O.C. on September 16, 2003, 06:06:08 AM
it's because speed hates you.  ;)


i imagine that they don't want the VIR fiasco possibility again. they announced that that they were way over budget, and that VIR cost them dearly.


i don't blame them.

set your VCR, cause complaining won't change it now.
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: THE_D.O.C. on September 16, 2003, 06:08:22 AM
i do think this SPEED whining is out of control. it used to be.

WAAAAAAAAHH no live coverage.

then WAAAAAAAAAAH no ama racing on two wheel tuesday.

now, WAAAAAAAAAAH ama racing won't come on till tuesday.






i'm amazed speed shows any at all with this crowd.
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: ecumike on September 16, 2003, 06:21:28 AM
Let me ask a stupid question.. what's the difference if it's shown on Sun or Tues.?

Don't you people have a VCR or BETA or something that records TV.

Ya know.. they make those things now so you don't actually have to worry about missing a TV show.  :)
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: fizzer400 on September 16, 2003, 07:03:15 AM
Yeah, this SPEEDTV complaining IS getting out of control. Speed doesn't show much rally racing, what about those fans? What about kart racing? Formula 3000? ABC is not going to start broadcasting re-runs of "The A-Team" during primetime just because a few people really loved the show and miss it(that would be awesome though!). No, they're about making money, and showing re-runs of "The A-Team" wouldn't make them money. The facts of life are that this is America, and in America the #1 motorsport is NASCAR. That's what people want to see, so that's what they're logically gonna show the most of. Get over it, or move to Europe, where they love the bikes better than NASCAR.

Just for the record, I'm pretty bummed too that they're not showing the Barber races live, but oh well that's life.

Jeff
CCS #419
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: motomadness on September 16, 2003, 07:18:42 AM
I only wrote the thread to announce what I thought was happening and to figure out if someone else was going to broadcast the event.  

Yes, Speed is over budget, you don't think they are over budget on their other programs as well?  It is my opinion that no small tv station like Speed can meet the budget of any of their programs.  It's just that they know where they should spend to stay in business.  

THE_D.O.C.,
your rhetoric is silly at times.  You attempt to speak as though you are some sort of authority just because your father has influence.  Give it a break.  We members of this board and many others, have every right to complain about things that are bothering us.  Maybe no one at Speed is listening, but with people like you patting them on the backs saying good job, they don't get the real picture.  It's like this tv commerical I saw on Speed about getting Speed TV swag (apparel).  They (Speed) claim that a motorcycle road racer wrote the letter.  Personally, I can't imagine anyone on this board ever wanting to wear Speed TV gear.

I agree with one thing, reliable coverage is better than no coverage, but because of the fact that I do read motorcycle coverage on the web, the cat will be out of the bag long before Tuesday.  With the season finale and many championships still undecided, it would be nice to watch it unfold live.

I also think that fact that there is no plan to have an hour long fairwell show to the AMA 250GP class, which has 40 years of history that would make a great show, is appaulling.
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: THE_D.O.C. on September 16, 2003, 07:23:51 AM
whatever dude. my father does freelance work for them. he doesn't "influence" a thing.

sorry if the facts of life are too painful to bear.

these bash speed threads are stupid. i can't help that.

buy a VCR, and deal with it.

i've said before, you COULD go back to 3.00 AM highlights with dave despain on speedworld. yeah, that's it, all the bike racing coverage around the world in a one minute highlight reel. they could even show it in prime time so YOU'LL be home.
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: EmerWil on September 16, 2003, 07:29:30 AM
d.o.c.

sometimes I think you take the opposite side of the argument just to get people worked up.  

I know reading is a challenge for you, that's why you deem the anti-speed threads as silly and a waste of time.  

Maybe you're just scared that if you come out against Speed your dad might lose his "freelance" job.  

Keep up the good work D.O.C.  love your posts...

 ::)
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: THE_D.O.C. on September 16, 2003, 07:37:20 AM
there's a witty reply from a clown who knows exactly my motive.

sorry dude, my pops can still do nascar.  ;)

or football. hockey. soccer. golf. tennis. on and on.

no allegiance here. but you guys are silly. it's called NIELSON RATINGS. poor ratings? poor time slots. sorry there isn't a convoluted twisty plot for you. but it REALLY IS no more simple than that. all you B I T C H I N G and moaning will never fix it. the only thing that will is if lazy beer guzzling nascrap fans fall in love with it.

<playing my violin for you, and your beloved bike racing>
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: Steviebee on September 16, 2003, 07:43:03 AM
WTF  is this no races this weekend !!

AMA get your head out of your ASS !!
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: EmerWil on September 16, 2003, 07:43:25 AM
You seem pretty adept at getting your ideas across.  Why don't you get behind the bike racing?  

Seriously tho, Speed knows the bike fans are very vocal and very pissed.  They've gone from half way decent coverage to no coverage at all.  And if it's all about the money then that's fine but I don't think Speed should act like their the bike guys best friend, because they're not.

U said that the bike budget was way over.  Well maybe they need to budget more money next year and concentrate on getting their fan base back.

It's called developing a market.  Plus, it takes a clown to know a clown.


 :-*
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: THE_D.O.C. on September 16, 2003, 07:46:10 AM
yeah?

well the fact is. your bike racing on speed (anytime you want it) is through.

bleeding hearts aside.

why don't you all just e-mail them again? they really care.

A-TEAM DURING PRIMETIME ANYONE??
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: tigerblade on September 16, 2003, 08:07:20 AM
Quoted.o.c.

sometimes I think you take the opposite side of the argument just to get people worked up.  


Go to the WERA board and do a search on "Brad Wilson".  You have no idea...   ;D
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: THE_D.O.C. on September 16, 2003, 08:08:11 AM
who is that?  ;)
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: tigerblade on September 16, 2003, 08:09:58 AM
Quotewho is that?  ;)

Some spoopy a-s-sclown.   :-*
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: WebCrush on September 16, 2003, 08:10:26 AM
A-Team on primetime?  Don't need ABC or other majojr network to do that cuz they LET SOMEONE ELSE have the rights to do it.  Nick at nite or some other channel (I KNOW i've seen the A-team on recently).

If Speed thinks M/C racing is a poor ratings scenario, get out of the picture and let someone else take a stab.  Maybe Fuel, OLN, or even SpikeTV would want to cover it.

Fact is, Speed doesn't want to promote anything other than NASCAR but at the same time they don't want to relinquish their rights to cover the other forms of racing JUST so they can prevent other channels from entering the picture.
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: THE_D.O.C. on September 16, 2003, 08:10:44 AM
yeah, i heard about him.  ;D
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: THE_D.O.C. on September 16, 2003, 08:11:38 AM
QuoteA-Team on primetime?  Don't need ABC or other majojr network to do that cuz they LET SOMEONE ELSE have the rights to do it.  Nick at nite or some other channel (I KNOW i've seen the A-team on recently).

If Speed thinks M/C racing is a poor ratings scenario, get out of the picture and let someone else take a stab.  Maybe Fuel, OLN, or even SpikeTV would want to cover it.

Fact is, Speed doesn't want to promote anything other than NASCAR but at the same time they don't want to relinquish their rights to cover the other forms of racing JUST so they can prevent other channels from entering the picture.


welcome to business 101.
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: EmerWil on September 16, 2003, 08:28:21 AM

I think SpikeTV would be great...Just put it in a time slot right after wrestling!!! lol

talk about instant market...

Of course you might have to hype the crashes and make some "accidental" oil spills and a full segment on the umbrella girls before you'll get then 'necks hooked..hehe

Brad Wilson? never heard of him..
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: stickman on September 16, 2003, 09:37:19 AM
It looks like Speed changed their minds:

http://www.speedtv.com/schedule/index.php?wholeMonth=09&timezone=0&subcat=CYC&program=&usecal=yes
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: StumpysWife on September 16, 2003, 09:44:51 AM
I think I'll send a thank you note.  Apparently they are listening--I appreciate live airs just because I can't handle not reading racing news and I also can't stand watching a sporting event in which I know the outcome--although the 250 race should be pretty darn easy to call!  

Now when are they ever going to show freakin' snowblower racing!!!! I bet there's like 3 people who want to see it!   ;D
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: THE_D.O.C. on September 16, 2003, 10:08:57 AM
<whistling>

don't see any apologies to speed yet on here. oh, and look, the 250 race will be aired too.
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: Dawn on September 16, 2003, 10:26:09 AM
Quote<whistling>

don't see any apologies to speed yet on here. oh, and look, the 250 race will be aired too.

Brad - Brad - Brad.....

Always the instigator.

Dawn   ;)
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: Nate R on September 16, 2003, 10:45:49 AM
At least you guys GET speed.  :(  

I'd be willing to pay someone next year to tape stuff for me and send it to me. Seriously. Anyone interested?
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: tigerblade on September 16, 2003, 11:01:10 AM
I won't watch the races this weekend...



...cause I'll BE there to see them in person.   ;D
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: EmerWil on September 16, 2003, 11:14:32 AM
WHAT?

You mean DOC is brad? :o

No way...don't believe it...



OH Btw...local NWS is predicting 6-10 inches of rain for the Summit Point area thurs and friday with some locations receiving 12+ inches.  Good thing this wasn't snow...lol

Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: castle228 on September 16, 2003, 11:22:24 AM
DOC, keep yer violin away....I've heard better tunes from my grandparent's 1900's record player....we don't need your sarcastic bs nor want to hear it.

What if...just what if...Speed were to drop NASCRAP? Don't you think the fan base would be pissed? Of course they would!! And don't you think they would voice their opinions? Of course they would!!

If you don't want to hear us voice ours....go away.

Nuf said.....

Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: TZDeSioux on September 16, 2003, 12:11:22 PM
QuoteI won't watch the races this weekend...



...cause I'll BE there to see them in person.   ;D

hmm... maybe you should've saved all your money you spent on going to Laguna and Barber and raced at BHF this year instead of quitting the season prematurely so that I could've atleast met your punkbiatchass.  ;)
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: THE_D.O.C. on September 16, 2003, 12:58:44 PM
QuoteDOC, keep yer violin away....I've heard better tunes from my grandparent's 1900's record player....we don't need your sarcastic bs nor want to hear it.

What if...just what if...Speed were to drop NASCRAP? Don't you think the fan base would be pissed? Of course they would!! And don't you think they would voice their opinions? Of course they would!!

If you don't want to hear us voice ours....go away.

Nuf said.....


here at the CCS glee club BBS.

who cares what YOU want hear?


so what you are saying is............. that you only want opinions that agree with yours? well pi ss off mate,.  ;) you guys are whiny speedTV sissies, and need a clue.

still haven't seen an apology to speed TV.
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: TZDeSioux on September 16, 2003, 12:59:54 PM
I'm sorry SpeedTV.  :'(
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: THE_D.O.C. on September 16, 2003, 01:03:37 PM
QuoteI'm sorry SpeedTV.  :'(


 ;D right on.  ;D
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: TZDeSioux on September 16, 2003, 01:05:13 PM
Woah~ They're even airing the last AMA 250GP race live!!!  8)
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: Dawn on September 16, 2003, 01:15:17 PM
Quotehere at the CCS glee club BBS.

who cares what YOU want hear?



I do....

 ;D
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: THE_D.O.C. on September 16, 2003, 01:32:53 PM
well, hear the sound of me farting in your general direction!!!

(from the holy grail for those easily offended)
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: motomadness on September 16, 2003, 01:33:22 PM
Now if we could just keep that pesky hurricane away from the South, we maybe able to actually watch some racing.
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: Dawn on September 16, 2003, 01:39:28 PM
Quotewell, hear the sound of me farting in your general direction!!!

(from the holy grail for those easily offended)

Thank goodness the internet does not have the capability to transmit smells... eeewwww...

Dawn   ;)
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: TreyBone on September 16, 2003, 01:56:31 PM
It does... read the reply, stick you finger up your butt, then take a big WHiff :-X
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: castle228 on September 16, 2003, 01:57:31 PM
Quotewho cares what YOU want hear?

Check yer English mate!

Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: Steviebee on September 16, 2003, 02:14:17 PM
it was all the bitching i did ..  You can thank me later.

I prefer money, but parts will be accepted as long as there new, in package, has the Stumpy Logo on them, Blessed by Super Dave, gets delivered by Umbrella girls (not the ones on TWT, but good looking ones), Fits my bike, Makes me faster, Makes me look good while going faster on my bike, includes a warning siren to any expert that i may catch up to, come with Bohn shorts, Includes product support for the 04 season, includes the Original Equipment Manufacture fender, Includes a sticker for the fender that says "FENDER".

I could go on, but im not as bored as i was when i started typing !

I still think the AMA needs to make some changes for thier broadcasting plans for 04 !  This means getting proposals from other networks TNN(Spike) OLN, ESPN, Wheels (is this ever coming out).

Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: Steviebee on September 16, 2003, 02:37:24 PM
Oh and something else i just was thinking of.
and this is about that much hated oval racing that yall bitch about like its the cause of all our problems.

A few years ago TNN showed most of the entire nascar races, only a few big ones like daytona and such were carried on major networks (ABC i think carried Daytona for almost 25 years live !).  But i could get up and watch the pre-pre race show on ESPN2 then switch over to ESPN for another 1/2 hour, then over to TNN for the Pre-race show for 1 hour, and then the 4-5 hour race. and sometimes a post race show.

This is gone now! Fox or NBC only has 1/2 hour pre-race show.  I think the quantity of nascar racing went down when they sold out to the major networks.  Of course now speed has a ton of nascar programming cause they couldnt afford to get the race contract that Fox and NBC bought, so they try to make up for it !
And TNN got left out in the swamp with smeelly methane gas for prgramming.  I think they played a major role of bringing nascrap to where it is today.

AMA think about this !!.

And while im bitching here !!  One reasong why some many people like watching that boring oval racing is !!!!  drum roll .  

Pick anyone of about 25 guys as your favorite,  and he might Win a race !  Why would anyone want to watch a race were theres only 3 guys who could win all year !!  It will never be popular if this continues ! Exspecially when an Aussie (read NON AMERICAN) wins everything in this day and age (personally i dont agree with this, but i feel like it has some merit, due to conversations with some people).

There was a formula that nascar came up with, make it close competition, dont let any one guy (car type) dominate, and promote the hell out of it !  (and yes they do promote the hell out of it, think about it, major reccording stars singing the nation anthem, USAF flying F-15, F-16, B-1, B-2, F-117 over during prerace ceromonies, governors, mayors and what nots giving the command to start the engines.

There was reported to be 90000 people at the Laguna race, thats a big enough audience to get serious !

Opps   its been one of those days at work,  usually i rant and rave about this stuff and then delete the post but this time ill leave it for comment !!
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: StumpysWife on September 17, 2003, 06:26:31 AM
QuoteIncludes a sticker for the fender that says "FENDER".

If we see you at RA you *will* have your FENDER sticker.  

Steve-o's fixation weapon of choice--the FENDER.  Others choose the floppy, jittery tail (SuperDave-I'm looking at you) or their favorite stuffed animal strapped on (yes, I said strapped on).  But Steve-o goes all out with the freakin' huge license plate fender!!!!!  Good luck passing him while fixated on the fender!  In fact you might find yourself off in the toolies in T1 at BHF if you fixate too much  ;D  Heh heh...

I just love when you say pregnant dogging over and over.  That just makes my day.  Speaking of pregnant dog, how'd everyone like that shirt Greg White had on.  And where can Stumpy sign up for factory ride for a day--just for the "experience".  Lucky bastard.  Yes, I'm jealous for my man!!!

I'm so far off topic...........

Heather
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: tigerblade on September 17, 2003, 06:49:13 AM
Quotehmm... maybe you should've saved all your money you spent on going to Laguna and Barber and raced at BHF this year instead of quitting the season prematurely so that I could've atleast met your punkbiatchass.  ;)

Laguna was a family vacation: $0.00

I'm splitting Barber costs with a buddy: $Cheap

I'm sure I'll run into ya sometime.  Until then, you'll just have to be jealous of Dawn, Kevin, Ike, and the others that were blessed with my presence this year.   ;D
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: tigerblade on September 17, 2003, 06:50:14 AM
Quotewell, hear the sound of me farting in your general direction!!!


What are you doing in England?

Minda your own business!
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: Burt Munro on September 17, 2003, 09:11:54 AM
Hey Kris,

There are 4 of us from Gateway (MCRA) going down to cornerwork at Barber this weekend.  Look us up if you see a 'Crashing Sucks' t-shirt on one of the corners.

Rick
Title: Re: No live races on Speed this weekend
Post by: tigerblade on September 17, 2003, 10:14:03 AM
QuoteHey Kris,

There are 4 of us from Gateway (MCRA) going down to cornerwork at Barber this weekend.  Look us up if you see a 'Crashing Sucks' t-shirt on one of the corners.

Rick

I'll look for ya.   :)