Had a kinda bummin experienece at BW on Sunday...
First race of the day, Sport bike. We ended up post registering to make my rider have to do more passing to get up front. He's just a kid and needs the practice.
Anyways, hes gridded on the back, gets a decent start, in two laps is in fourth. Outbrakes a guy going into one (full stick to the number 2 cone) and throws it in. The rider he just passed (who was running 3-4 Seconds slower than Tristan all weekend) got sucked in with the geek racer mentality (he had NEVER been that deep into one b4) He ended up tucking the front in a fit of panic braking, and taking out both Tristan, and the rider right in front. The screwed up part is that they both were knee down when this idiot plowed into 'em.
We ended up fixing the bike, and he won a couple more during the day, but it still really sucked to watch some idiot take your rider out because he wasnt thinking about riding, just trying to stay in front.
The guy he took out was the guy he came with and was pitting with, i bet that was a fun ride home..
See you all at Vegas....
That's like a free pass for future abuse. Wreck his car, never return tools, hit on his girlfriend... And you can always say "remember when you took me out"? ;D
At least no one was hurt. I try to pass on the outside for just that reason.
That's racing. It is not like the guy did it intentionally. Sh*t happens. "Idiot" seems harsh. Have you ever raced and made a mistake????
Craig
Craig, a mistake is forgetting to check your tire pressure. Ther eis no such thing as an accident, and this idiot tried to run with a guy that was 3-4 seconds fater than him into turn one.
The part that bugs me is that he obviously didnt pay attention to where he was on the track, just that he HAD to stay ahead of my rider...
So he took them both out...
Even when you are trying to get by somone, you still need to be responsible about it.
Its cool, its racing, but it sucks just the same...
How did he know your rider was 3-4 seconds faster than him considering your rider was behind him? From his point of view, he didn't know whether your rider was .2 seconds faster a lap or 15 seconds faster a lap. He made the decision to contest the position going into the turn and it turned out bad for all people involved.
It definitely sucks, but it seems like a racing deal to me. Nobody's perfect.
QuoteCraig, a mistake is forgetting to check your tire pressure. Ther eis no such thing as an accident, and this idiot tried to run with a guy that was 3-4 seconds fater than him into turn one.
The part that bugs me is that he obviously didnt pay attention to where he was on the track, just that he HAD to stay ahead of my rider...
So he took them both out...
Even when you are trying to get by somone, you still need to be responsible about it.
Its cool, its racing, but it sucks just the same...
you aren't related to the infamously whiny Team Atomic are you? it's racing dude, get over it.
I won't comment on whose fault it was, I saw it and have an opinion though. What bothered me was the fact that all three riders stayed in the impact zone the rest of the race. Please tell your guy and the others to move themselves and if possible the bikes into a safer place away from the corner. It was very disconcerting that they stayed in a very dangerous spot for the duration of the race. Placed both themselves and the other racers in jeopardy.
- Eric
#235 AM PAC region
Huh...Wha...I missed it.
I do agree with Litespeed though. Tristan didn't have any markings to tell anyone that he was faster on that track, that day. The other rider wouldn't have seen them anyway since Tristan was behing him 'til then. ???
Guess I'm glad I didn't race that race after all.
;D
Quote...Guess I'm glad I didn't race that race after all.
;D
Hey Dave, if you do ab crunches like your turtle there, you'll be in no shape to race! :o ;) :D ;D
If your guy is that fast, pre-register and start up front. He will get passing practice when he catches up to backmarkers. Rossi and Biaggi don't start at the back - fast guys up front. 8)
QuoteIf your guy is that fast, pre-register and start up front. He will get passing practice when he catches up to backmarkers. Rossi and Biaggi don't start at the back - fast guys up front. 8)
I agree with twg on this. I have been in both situations myself, being a slow guy and being a fast guy. For a new rider that isn't that fast I highly suggest that they start at the back of the grid to gain passing experience, see how others are doing things at a slightly slower more observable pace, and to not get run over in turn 1 (or do something out of lack of experience to take others out on the 1st lap). But when you have a racer that is fast, and still needs passing experience, intentionally starting at the back will only prove frustrating and possibly dangerous. How does passing 4 rows worth of riders (that aren't up to speed yet) in the first few turns make you a better racer? If your rider is really as fast as you say he is, then he will encounter progressively more difficult passing situations as he laps the field during the race (while actually trying to maintain his position as well - a true challenge, instead of an ego boosting passing frenzy in the 1st few turns).
DD, love the turtle thing, we've all felt like that sometime oh oh, I'm alright, no, I'm laying back down, I'm OK, no it hurts. That's great.
As far as the wreck, "nobodys prefect" I've been taken out and at first I was pissed, but think about how many almosts you've had and you have to forgive. Sucks just the same, but don't hold a grudge. He's probably a great guy.
We have been starting Tristan at the back of the grid because he needs the passing experience working through the field. I dont always agree with this, but what Mr Polen says to do to make Tristan go faster, I tend to do it. I wish I had him coaching me when I was 14.
Its a mute point, I pre-registered him for Vegas today. Ordered all the go fast goodies for his new bike, and scheduled 4 test days betweeen now and then...
Anyone know if there is goinna be a track day at Vegas b4 the race weekend??
QuoteIts a mute point,
MOOT MOOT MOOT... Moot is the word you're looking for. Not mute...
Not picking on you, just a huge pet peeve of mine...
8)
QuoteMOOT MOOT MOOT... Moot is the word you're looking for. Not mute...
Not picking on you, just a huge pet peeve of mine...
8)
Nice one, J. :D Hopefully it won't fall on deaf ears. LOL.