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Title: importance of HEALTH INSURANCE when racing@!!!
Post by: MELK-MAN on June 03, 2003, 08:28:11 AM
many of you will say "of course you dont race without health insurance".. well, some dont. Friend of mine was without a short time when switching companies but raced anyway and its costing him big time..like $28,000 after paying a bunch already.
Dont race without insurance. We have a $5k policy through CCS but that will not cover much if ya stay in the hospital a few days.
later
greg
Title: Re: importance of HEALT INSURANCE when racing@!!!
Post by: MightyDuc Racing on June 03, 2003, 02:53:55 PM
Yeah...I gotta pay like $543 this month to keep my and my wife's insurance going...but have to do it just in case I decide to race next month. :(
Title: Re: importance of HEALT INSURANCE when racing@!!!
Post by: Woofentino Pugrossi on June 03, 2003, 07:25:12 PM
Lack of insurance is why I didnt race most of last year. :( My insurance kicked in and I only got to race the last 2 BHF races.
Title: Re: importance of HEALT INSURANCE when racing@!!!
Post by: ceesthadees on June 03, 2003, 07:37:44 PM
Another quick note about insurance and racing. Make sure your insurance does not have a racing exclusion. My previous insurance policy specifically said it would not cover injuries incurred during an organized motorsport race.
Title: Re: importance of HEALT INSURANCE when racing@!!!
Post by: james-redsv on June 04, 2003, 04:47:04 AM
QuoteAnother quick note about insurance and racing. Make sure your insurance does not have a racing exclusion. My previous insurance policy specifically said it would not cover injuries incurred during an organized motorsport race.
Yep, most if not all regular health insurance policies wont cover racing. Read the fine print.:o
Title: Re: importance of HEALT INSURANCE when racing@!!!
Post by: MightyDuc Racing on June 04, 2003, 05:52:55 AM
Aetna and Blue Cross/Blue Shield both cover you on the track.
Title: Re: importance of HEALT INSURANCE when racing@!!!
Post by: MELK-MAN on June 04, 2003, 08:02:35 AM
QuoteAetna and Blue Cross/Blue Shield both cover you on the track.

Blue Cross/Blue shield is what i have.
Title: Re: importance of HEALT INSURANCE when racing@!!!
Post by: tzracer on June 04, 2003, 01:37:41 PM
I have been racing since 1980 (motocross, karts, roadracing) and have never had insurance that would not cover racing.
Title: Re: importance of HEALT INSURANCE when racing@!!!
Post by: Jeff on June 04, 2003, 01:41:45 PM
I agree Brian.

With all of my insurance companies, I specifically ask to see exclusions and mention terms like "sky diving", "organized sports", "amateur racing", etc...

However, the two times I have been to the doctor for "incidents", the official reason was "slipped in the grass" or "fell down on pavement".  

Hey! I didn't lie!  :D
Title: Re: importance of HEALT INSURANCE when racing@!!!
Post by: Woofentino Pugrossi on June 04, 2003, 05:29:46 PM
QuoteHowever, the two times I have been to the doctor for "incidents", the official reason was "slipped in the grass" or "fell down on pavement".  

Hey! I didn't lie!  :D


Or say you fell off your bike. Most nurses would write down 'fell off bicycle' on teh report.  ;D
Title: Re: importance of HEALT INSURANCE when racing@!!!
Post by: ecumike on June 04, 2003, 05:53:35 PM
I like the reply/answer I saw on here a while ago that someone posted... when asked where the accident happenend... "on Roebling Rd."
Title: Re: importance of HEALT INSURANCE when racing@!!!
Post by: Bernie on June 04, 2003, 08:06:03 PM
I always tell people I fell off a motorcycle while at the racetrack.  I've been to a bunch of emergency rooms and talked to a bunch of people while there.  Maybe I'm just lucky, but I've never had any issues with insurance or any bad attitudes from ER personnel.
Title: Re: importance of HEALT INSURANCE when racing@!!!
Post by: GSXR RACER MIKE on June 04, 2003, 08:23:05 PM
     I always think ahead about the insurance angle of injuries, after all I have paid thousands upon thousands of dollars to insurance companies and have had very minimal $ claims, so I BETTER be getting covered! Just remember that the insurance company get's to use that money in investments which build even more money.
     My insurance will allow racing but will not cover me if I race Pro, so I have never even attempted to race a Pro race for that reason. I had a non-motorcycle related injury some years back that resulted in breaking 4 of my ribs (it only hurt when I would breathe). That was recorded by the emergency room as being a fall on some stairs. Ya, that's what happened, right, that's it! ;) ;D
Title: Re: importance of HEALT INSURANCE when racing@!!!
Post by: MightyDuc Racing on June 05, 2003, 07:31:24 AM
One of the jobs I have been offered involves selling health/life insurance.  I can do it on the side and if it covers racers, I'll hook us all up.  Just starting the investigation though.  Will keep you posted.
Title: Re: importance of HEALT INSURANCE when racing@!!!
Post by: KBOlsen on June 05, 2003, 09:41:47 AM
Day after my high-side last year, my shoulder felt really bad.  I walked into the ER of a tony, North Shore hospital my doctor happend to be affiliated with.  Wanted them to take a look at it, get some X-rays and an MRI.  

Front Desk Lady:  "What happened?"

Me:  "I fell."

F.D.L.:  "Where?"

Me:  "On my shoulder."

F.D.L.:  "How?"  

Me:  "Uh... on the pavement."  I didn't really want to go into too much detail (wasn't sure I wanted the insurance company to know I was racing).  Nurse ushers me into an exam room.  Front Desk Lady must have noticed my reticence because next thing I know, here comes a social worker!

Social Worker:  "Honey, you can tell me what REALLY happened".

"Really - I fell down, and landed on my shoulder.  That's it."

"But how did it happen?"

"What difference does it make?  Okay... Well, I fell... out of a tree!"

"You weren't pushed?"

"No... I just launched myself"

"Launched yourself?"

"Um, yeah... I grabbed the wrong gear - er, branch... and was launched!"

At that point, the absurdity of it all caused me to burst out laughing, which left that poor woman not knowing WHAT to think.
Title: Re: importance of HEALT INSURANCE when racing@!!!
Post by: EX#996 on June 05, 2003, 10:19:53 AM
Yeah...  a tree, that's it....  LOL!!!!

Kim - Hopefully you will never be in that situation again, but Rob's suggestion:  "I fell off my bike," was a good one.

Dawn   :D
Title: Re: importance of HEALT INSURANCE when racing@!!!
Post by: Woofentino Pugrossi on June 05, 2003, 04:55:49 PM
QuoteSocial Worker:  "Honey, you can tell me what REALLY happened".

"Really - I fell down, and landed on my shoulder.  That's it."

"But how did it happen?"

"What difference does it make?  Okay... Well, I fell... out of a tree!"

"You weren't pushed?"

"No... I just launched myself"

"Launched yourself?"

"Um, yeah... I grabbed the wrong gear - er, branch... and was launched!"

At that point, the absurdity of it all caused me to burst out laughing, which left that poor woman not knowing WHAT to think.

Oh thats funny as h3ll. ;D ;D
Title: Re: importance of HEALTH INSURANCE when racing@!!!
Post by: Pit_Girl on June 06, 2003, 08:06:19 AM
lol!!!!  that is tooooo funny....  ;D

it is good that they asked that though... what if you were a victim of abuse, you know?  better safe than sorry :)


-jennifer
Title: Re: importance of HEALTH INSURANCE when racing@!!!
Post by: sdiver68 on June 06, 2003, 12:17:34 PM
LOL Kim,

I brought a friend of mine to the ER just yesterday for X-Rays of injuries from a fall she took down some stairs the night before while hanging out with her girl friends.

She was asked how the injuries happened at least 5 times by 5 different people.  I could almost feel their stares at me as she said "I fell down steps"  :o
Title: Re: importance of HEALTH INSURANCE when racing@!!!
Post by: Eddie#200 on June 06, 2003, 12:31:16 PM
QuoteLOL Kim,

I brought a friend of mine to the ER just yesterday for X-Rays of injuries from a fall she took down some stairs the night before while hanging out with her girl friends.

She was asked how the injuries happened at least 5 times by 5 different people.  I could almost feel their stares at me as she said "I fell down steps"  :o

Yeah Steve .... But she probably deserved it right?  ;)
Title: Re: importance of HEALTH INSURANCE when racing@!!!
Post by: EX#996 on June 06, 2003, 02:47:19 PM
QuoteLOL Kim,

I brought a friend of mine to the ER just yesterday for X-Rays of injuries from a fall she took down some stairs the night before while hanging out with her girl friends.

She was asked how the injuries happened at least 5 times by 5 different people.  I could almost feel their stares at me as she said "I fell down steps"  :o

It is good that they ask, but sometimes they just cannot accept what you say as the truth.  I fell on some ice a some years ago (Christmas Eve no less) tore my nylons scraped my hand, knee, cheek and needed stiches in my forehead.  They kept asking me what happend, I kept telling them "I fell on the ice."  The nurse is cleaning my cheek and I'm crying so she says, "Your crying, is there anything you're not telling me?"  I said, "Yeah, that hurts!"  She stopped asking questions at that point.

Dawn