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Title: Which way do we go?
Post by: EX#996 on June 02, 2003, 06:57:23 PM
Never being at Gateway before, I have heard the stories about the transition onto the NASCAR track and how difficult and dangerous it is.  I always thought everyone said it was NASCAR turn 1.

If this is the case, when the road course for Gateway is used, is turn one the same as NASCAR turn 4?

Dawn   ???
Title: Re: Which way do we go?
Post by: Gixxer124 on June 02, 2003, 08:37:48 PM
You start the race on the front straight, head towards turn 1. Before you get to NASCRAP turn 1, you head into the infield. From there you have a series of lefts and right and end up going up onto the NASCRAP track in turn 3. You drop right back onto the NASCRAP pit entrance. Haul @ss on the pit road between turns 3 and 4, then up onto the oval at the beginning of the front straight.(at the exit of turn 4) At the transition of the pit lane to the oval, there is a temporary chicane to slow you down, as you are heading straight for the outside wall. There is no passing at this chicane.
Title: Re: Which way do we go?
Post by: tshort on June 03, 2003, 06:18:42 AM
Ok - to get to Gateway:  Take I-80 West, and go about 700 miles.  Look for signs for Denver, and peel off on I-76(or is it 74?).  Look for signs when you get out there for Gateway.  It's well marked.  Shouldn't take you more than about 8 hours or so, so you can leave maybe Friday late evening, get there by bedtime, ready to race Saturday morning.

I'll see you there. 8)
Title: Re: Which way do we go?
Post by: sdiver68 on June 03, 2003, 06:43:08 AM
My description of Gateway-

Going down the front straight of the Oval, you transition down left onto the road course, turn 1.  This isn't too bad unless you hit the transition point wrong...and is also 1 place of major speed difference between those running <10 and those running 12+.  From there you go hard on the brakes, grab a downshift or 2, and then there is a sweeping increasing radius left, Turn 2.  Short straight-away for a hard left-right (Turns 3 and 4, don't miss 4 or you'll end up at a wall!) and a very short straight to a gentle left (Turn 5) that immediately transitions over to a long decreasing radius right. (Turn 6)  Turns 5 and 6 are so clsoe together and different you can never find the right gear for it on a smaller 4...bigger 4's and twins just Torque through.  Onto a short straight and a hard 180 degree left (Turn 7) that has you going back onto the oval and of course pointed directly at a wall.  Watch out for the mid-corner dip and corner exit bump.  Then, go down the back straight just a bit and come down back off the oval, through some dirt and a series of bumps to a long sweeping left. (Turn 8 )  At the end of this left is the bane of Gateway, I suppose it's Turn 9 but everyone just calls it the chicane, it's a mickey mouse right-left curbing that attempts to slow you down before you get to the sharp bump at the transition of the road course and back onto the oval.  It's also a no passing zone, shoots you right at a wall (now with airfence), and the bumps or the paint can cause an easy rear wheel slide.  I would say this is the other area that separates the <10's from the 12+'s.

Have fun  ;D
Title: Re: Which way do we go?
Post by: Super Dave on June 03, 2003, 07:04:58 AM
Having raced at some truely evil courses, Gateway isn't bad.  But there are places that you don't try to make up time, just don't loose time.  One and the chicane area are those.  Smooth will help, and again the only thing you can do is try to keep good mid corner speed so that you don't have to whack the throttle open so hard.  That will always make life easier.
Title: Re: Which way do we go?
Post by: Jeff on June 03, 2003, 07:06:33 AM
just my personal experience/advice...  When you're going onto the banking in the back section (both times), lift your rear end off the seat.  Your legs will absorb a lot of the jolt, and your suspension will absorb the rest...

If you rely totally on your suspension, you're going to be in for a wild ride since it's a hell of a jolt...

FWIW two years ago I snapped a subframe when my arse hit the seat which bottomed out my stock shock...

I had better luck with the penske and a professional setup, but still...
Title: Re: Which way do we go?
Post by: tigerblade on June 03, 2003, 08:27:07 AM
Sheesh, I'm so excited about racing there.   :-X
Title: Re: Which way do we go?
Post by: EX#996 on June 03, 2003, 06:44:34 PM
Thanks everyone for you input.

Dawn   :)
Title: Re: Which way do we go?
Post by: cb186 on June 03, 2003, 07:09:40 PM
careful of the dip in the middle of turn 7 and be real careful of turn 4 in the morning, it can be real slippery(found out the hard way). the track is pretty fun once you get the hang of it and you will end up carrying a lot of speed into 1 be the end of the weekend. the hardest turn to figure out is 6.
Title: Re: Which way do we go?
Post by: Super_KC124 on June 03, 2003, 10:19:59 PM
Wow Steve, your descreption sounded much better than mine. But, you are from St. Louis. ;D
Title: Re: Which way do we go?
Post by: Super_KC124 on June 03, 2003, 10:21:00 PM
QuoteSheesh, I'm so excited about racing there.   :-X
Look me up. I'll make sure you have fun at this track! ;)
Title: Re: Which way do we go?
Post by: tigerblade on June 04, 2003, 08:11:49 AM
QuoteLook me up. I'll make sure you have fun at this track! ;)

I'll bring my tow hook.   ;)